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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 2, 2010 15:39:47 GMT -5
People were ALWAYS talking about Kennedy being the next big thing while in WWE. Sure he can wrestle, but he cant hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc...
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Post by BV on Jan 2, 2010 15:58:43 GMT -5
People give Kennedy a bad rep. Everyone used to be all over him in WWE. Now people hate him because he's injury prone? Last time I checked, so is Edge, but people love him..
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 2, 2010 16:02:32 GMT -5
But then again, Edge has been in WWE for over 10 years, competing in high risk matches. Kennedy was in WWE for a little over 3 years (I think), where he was injured several times.
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Post by BV on Jan 2, 2010 16:04:08 GMT -5
But then again, Edge has been in WWE for over 10 years, competing in high risk matches. Kennedy was in WWE for a little over 3 years (I think), where he was injured several times. Fair enough. Just saying, Kennedy isn't as bad as everyone says he is. |
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jan 2, 2010 16:27:26 GMT -5
It is true, he can wrestle. I didn't say he was the "best ever" nor a great one. But, he CAN wrestle. sure he can wrestle, but he can't wrestle good. Not even close People give Kennedy a bad rep. Everyone used to be all over him in WWE. Now people hate him because he's injury prone? Last time I checked, so is Edge, but people love him.. When Kennedy competes in countless TLC's, Hell in a Cell's, gains half the talent and mic skills that Edge possesses and learns how to not almost kill the champion in his first match back, then we can talk. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 2, 2010 16:52:25 GMT -5
People were ALWAYS talking about Kennedy being the next big thing while in WWE. Sure he can wrestle, but he cant hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc... I'm not saying he is, nor is anyone else in this thread saying that either. But, you can't say "Oh, don't hire him because he can't hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc" because of the fact, TNA wouldn't be able to hire anyone else. It's like saying "Oh, why'd WWE hire _____, he can't hold a candle to Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker, CM Punk, etc". It's a good signing, if it even happens, for TNA for a few reasons. A.) If you want to use the "Injury Prone" stuff (which I dis-agree with), then the traveling is perfect for Ken. If Ken has a "Kurt Angle" esque schedule, he'll work PPVs, iMPACTS & House Shows but house shows on a limited basis. Kurt works alot, but there's also times when Kurt just comes out and cuts a promo. B.) They can give him the "Matt Morgan" treatment. Ken & Morgan are kind of in the same boat, they neither one reached their potential in the WWE. Morgan comes to TNA and is given the chance to show how good he is not just in the ring but on the microphone. If you watch Ken's OVW stuff (mainly when Paul was running it) his promos were great because of the freedom he had. TNA is said to be the same way from interviews. TNA can change Ken Anderson like they did Matt Morgan, if he evens signs. There's no reason to write him off just because he's not your favorite wrestler. I can accept people saying "Oh, I don't like Ken. I don't think he's a good choice of a signing", etc. But, to say someone who's been in the business for about 10 years or so isn' a "wrestler", is a very ignorant statement in my opinion. --- This "He almost killed Orton!" crap has to stop. Orton wasn't hurt and was back on TV the next week and didn't miss any time. craphappens. |
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Jan 2, 2010 16:56:00 GMT -5
ok...this better be true because i can't handle all these emotions in one day man i just hope we get to see the young bucks lol |
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jan 2, 2010 17:11:03 GMT -5
People were ALWAYS talking about Kennedy being the next big thing while in WWE. Sure he can wrestle, but he cant hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc... I'm not saying he is, nor is anyone else in this thread saying that either. But, you can't say "Oh, don't hire him because he can't hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc" because of the fact, TNA wouldn't be able to hire anyone else. It's like saying "Oh, why'd WWE hire _____, he can't hold a candle to Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker, CM Punk, etc". It's a good signing, if it even happens, for TNA for a few reasons. A.) If you want to use the "Injury Prone" stuff (which I dis-agree with), then the traveling is perfect for Ken. If Ken has a "Kurt Angle" esque schedule, he'll work PPVs, iMPACTS & House Shows but house shows on a limited basis. Kurt works alot, but there's also times when Kurt just comes out and cuts a promo. B.) They can give him the "Matt Morgan" treatment. Ken & Morgan are kind of in the same boat, they neither one reached their potential in the WWE. Morgan comes to TNA and is given the chance to show how good he is not just in the ring but on the microphone. If you watch Ken's OVW stuff (mainly when Paul was running it) his promos were great because of the freedom he had. TNA is said to be the same way from interviews. TNA can change Ken Anderson like they did Matt Morgan, if he evens signs. There's no reason to write him off just because he's not your favorite wrestler. I can accept people saying "Oh, I don't like Ken. I don't think he's a good choice of a signing", etc. But, to say someone who's been in the business for about 10 years or so isn' a "wrestler", is a very ignorant statement in my opinion. --- This "He almost killed Orton!" crap has to stop. Orton wasn't hurt and was back on TV the next week and didn't miss any time. poop happens.Yes, but Kennedy dropped Orton on his head during the match. It didn't result in an injury, but it showed how risky a worker Kennedy is, especially with his past injuries |
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Post by GreaterManchesterAlex on Jan 2, 2010 17:18:50 GMT -5
Jan 4th: Ladies and Gentlemen please welcome Mr Anderson
Jan 5th: TNA can now confirm that Mr Anderson had broke his ankle while getting into the ring
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Post by WFK on Jan 2, 2010 17:27:17 GMT -5
I'm not saying he is, nor is anyone else in this thread saying that either. But, you can't say "Oh, don't hire him because he can't hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc" because of the fact, TNA wouldn't be able to hire anyone else. It's like saying "Oh, why'd WWE hire _____, he can't hold a candle to Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker, CM Punk, etc". It's a good signing, if it even happens, for TNA for a few reasons. A.) If you want to use the "Injury Prone" stuff (which I dis-agree with), then the traveling is perfect for Ken. If Ken has a "Kurt Angle" esque schedule, he'll work PPVs, iMPACTS & House Shows but house shows on a limited basis. Kurt works alot, but there's also times when Kurt just comes out and cuts a promo. B.) They can give him the "Matt Morgan" treatment. Ken & Morgan are kind of in the same boat, they neither one reached their potential in the WWE. Morgan comes to TNA and is given the chance to show how good he is not just in the ring but on the microphone. If you watch Ken's OVW stuff (mainly when Paul was running it) his promos were great because of the freedom he had. TNA is said to be the same way from interviews. TNA can change Ken Anderson like they did Matt Morgan, if he evens signs. There's no reason to write him off just because he's not your favorite wrestler. I can accept people saying "Oh, I don't like Ken. I don't think he's a good choice of a signing", etc. But, to say someone who's been in the business for about 10 years or so isn' a "wrestler", is a very ignorant statement in my opinion. --- This "He almost killed Orton!" crap has to stop. Orton wasn't hurt and was back on TV the next week and didn't miss any time. poop happens.Yes, but Kennedy dropped Orton on his head during the match. It didn't result in an injury, but it showed how risky a worker Kennedy is, especially with his past injuries It really didn't. As SG said, **** happens. Can you honestly name any other time that Ken legitimately injured someone? |
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Post by Thick Justice on Jan 2, 2010 17:34:16 GMT -5
For f sake he may get hurt easily. I'll give you that. However he never hurt anyone in the ring. Even the orton thing wasn't a botch. It was a back drop driver. Not a belly too back suplex. He shouldn't of done such a risky move on a top talent though. He didn't botch he just was trying out a new move that he pulled off well. Unless wwe told the talent no back drop drivers he really doesn't deserve the heat. I for one would love too see him back.  |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 2, 2010 17:36:56 GMT -5
No, no.. they're not saying he hurt someone. They're saying he about KILLED Orton. There's a diffrence.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 2, 2010 17:44:15 GMT -5
People were ALWAYS talking about Kennedy being the next big thing while in WWE. Sure he can wrestle, but he cant hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc... I'm not saying he is, nor is anyone else in this thread saying that either. But, you can't say "Oh, don't hire him because he can't hold a candle to Styles, Angle, Wolfe, etc" because of the fact, TNA wouldn't be able to hire anyone else. It's like saying "Oh, why'd WWE hire _____, he can't hold a candle to Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker, CM Punk, etc". It's a good signing, if it even happens, for TNA for a few reasons. A.) If you want to use the "Injury Prone" stuff (which I dis-agree with), then the traveling is perfect for Ken. If Ken has a "Kurt Angle" esque schedule, he'll work PPVs, iMPACTS & House Shows but house shows on a limited basis. Kurt works alot, but there's also times when Kurt just comes out and cuts a promo. B.) They can give him the "Matt Morgan" treatment. Ken & Morgan are kind of in the same boat, they neither one reached their potential in the WWE. Morgan comes to TNA and is given the chance to show how good he is not just in the ring but on the microphone. If you watch Ken's OVW stuff (mainly when Paul was running it) his promos were great because of the freedom he had. TNA is said to be the same way from interviews. TNA can change Ken Anderson like they did Matt Morgan, if he evens signs. There's no reason to write him off just because he's not your favorite wrestler. I can accept people saying "Oh, I don't like Ken. I don't think he's a good choice of a signing", etc. But, to say someone who's been in the business for about 10 years or so isn' a "wrestler", is a very ignorant statement in my opinion. 1. If TNA gave Anderson, Angle's schedule, then they are fools. That means they know he is injury prone, but hired him anyway and gave him the same schedule as a veteran who has been wrestling for all these years, working through injures and whatnot. Angle deserves a schedule like that, because of what he has done in his career. Anderson deserves it because he gets injured a lot? Not a chance in my book. 2. TNA goes the Matt Morgan route and he becomes a star in TNA. That is the obvious choice for many reasons. He wasn't a solidified main eventer in WWE, so he wouldn't be in TNA. Make him come in and start something on the lower card, working his way up. But of course, has the potential to be a main eventer, just as long as he is bult up towards it and not handed the spot. That would be the best case scenario for TNA if Anderson came in. But giving him a spot on the roster but also giving him a lesser schedule because he gets hurt a lot is intellectually- disabled. Now, I didnt say Anderson isn't a 'wrestler' because he hasn't been in WWE for 10 years. BV mentioned Anderson's injuries and compared him to Edge. I simply said Edge has been wrestling in WWE for over 10 years, wrestling in dangerous matches, given that- you can't compare them because Anderson was in like one TLC match where he gave a midget a GBP. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 2, 2010 17:49:19 GMT -5
No, no.. they're not saying he hurt someone. They're saying he about KILLED Orton. There's a diffrence. He nearly did. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 2, 2010 17:51:02 GMT -5
No, no.. they're not saying he hurt someone. They're saying he about KILLED Orton. There's a diffrence. He nearly did. Wait, so Orton doesn't miss any ring time... and isn't injured. Yet, Ken about killed him? WTF? |
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Post by slappy on Jan 2, 2010 17:52:10 GMT -5
Wait, so Orton doesn't miss any ring time... and isn't injured. Yet, Ken about killed him? WTF? Yes, it was a miracle that Orton didn't get severely injured. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 2, 2010 17:56:24 GMT -5
Wait, so Orton doesn't miss any ring time... and isn't injured. Yet, Ken about killed him? WTF? Yes, it was a miracle that Orton didn't get severely injured. Or.. *gasp* It wasn't a botch!  |
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Post by slappy on Jan 2, 2010 18:00:25 GMT -5
Yes, it was a miracle that Orton didn't get severely injured. Or.. *gasp* It wasn't a botch! How wasn't it a botch, he dropped him on his head. He could have landed wrong and broke his neck. |
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 2, 2010 18:01:35 GMT -5
Now, SG to say that wasn't a botch is just stupid. That was a simple back suplex. You grab the guy, he jumps with you, when he is at the highest point, you bring him down and tuck in your arm so he takes a flat back bump. Not neck. Back bump. Possibly the easiest move in wrestling, more simple than a body slam.
Anderson probably wasn't holding on correctly, Orton jumped and then Anderson didnt have him securely, so he landed on his neck. He was lucky he didnt get hurt. It was a botch. Plain and simple.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 2, 2010 18:04:46 GMT -5
Okay, whatever. This arugement is pointless. I say it wasn't a botch, you say it was. Oh well.
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