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Post by PJ on Jan 3, 2010 8:37:08 GMT -5
When I saw them for the first time I said Homerun! And the Entrance Greats Triple H blows Jakks KoK Triple H out of the water.
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Post by ralculdmohdpas on Jan 3, 2010 9:14:30 GMT -5
WHAT A JOKE! Mattel figs are not REALISTIC!!! That's right they are better than a lot of Jakks products and I appreciate the scale details but open your eyes and compare! Just take a look on muscles, proportions, HEADS SIZE... the worst is certainly Rey's sculpt. His legs should be shorter, not is upper body... The figs are cool but they come from a DC/Marvel comics and not from a WWE tv show.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 9:23:39 GMT -5
Someone's been drinking the hateraide. agreed
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Post by PJ on Jan 3, 2010 9:31:26 GMT -5
WHAT A JOKE! Mattel figs are not REALISTIC!!! That's right they are better than a lot of Jakks products and I appreciate the scale details but open your eyes and compare! Just take a look on muscles, proportions, HEADS SIZE... the worst is certainly Rey's sculpt. His legs should be shorter, not is upper body... The figs are cool but they come from a DC/Marvel comics and not from a WWE tv show. lol. I couldn't say about Rey as I would never buy his figure unless it was in the Flash attire. So I didn't and won't look at his figure. But to say their figures aren't more realistic than Jakks is a joke. Other than HHH, Cena & Batista who are all pretty large & ripped in real life none of Mattel figures are as ripped as Jakks. Non suffer from thunder thighs or fat ankles. And their bodies are much more in proportion with a real human body than Jakks. I couldn't believe I had never noticed how poorly the Jakks females were until I had Stephanie next to Beth. It's like night and day. The Beth figure looks like she could be a real person while the Stephanie figure looks very cartoonish with her extra large head and extra thin waistline.
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Post by TheRockers on Jan 3, 2010 10:30:40 GMT -5
one you put a mattel figure next to a Jakks, Mattel is way better. Jakks really was lazy with a lot of things.
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Jan 3, 2010 10:32:54 GMT -5
MATTEL > Jakks..... PERIOD!This is coming from somebody who is / was a Jakks fan, but, Mattel just make the wrestlers look more realistic. DA's were my favourite / prefered style from Jakks, but, when you think about it, there was very little scale difference there & the Arms / Bicep areas were way over ballooned for guys who didn't have huge muscles, i.e. DA Kurt Angle, loved the attire & Torso, but those balloon like Arms just on most DA's annoyed the F**k out of me. At least Mattel have hit both Scale & Realism off right at the start & the rest will improve as they go on. And why can't we say Jakks was putting out crap at the beginning, because to be fair, they were, BCA sucked, TTL was the era that Kicked Jakks into gear, RA's were hellish improvements & DA's were the ultimate figures for playability wise. All the Mattel haters need to give them a chance, they've barely had the license 3 days yet & people are complaining, things take time. Things I'd like to see improve are Older / Wrinkled up guys looking old in the Face, i.e. Finlay, so, room for improvement there. Fat / Chubby guys with that bit extra weight / possible unique Torso where affordable, i.e. Poor old Finlay again, LOL. And Jack Swagger could do with a Broader Torso / Broader Shoulders & The Head needs improved, maybes a Serious Scan instead of the smiling one, but still, it's better than Jakks Long Horse Face Head Scan of his. To be honest, I wish one Toy Company could make Wrestlers for more than just one promotion, Mattel making both WWE & TNA would be awesome, Jakks could have just UFC. please explain how Mattels Cena is SO much more accurate/realistic? The waist is tiny, the arms are small compared to his real arms, and his body has a little more fat on it than the figure. Neither jakks or mattel are perfect so I wish people would stop saying how accurate they are when they really arent. I love Mattel so far but I dont know why Cenas fig gets all the praise, I mean in real life he has a flabby waist wereas Mattel have give him a ripped six pack and muscled arms.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 3, 2010 10:55:44 GMT -5
WHAT A JOKE! Mattel figs are not REALISTIC!!! That's right they are better than a lot of Jakks products and I appreciate the scale details but open your eyes and compare! Just take a look on muscles, proportions, HEADS SIZE... the worst is certainly Rey's sculpt. His legs should be shorter, not is upper body... The figs are cool but they come from a DC/Marvel comics and not from a WWE tv show. Agreed I can't understand why people prefer Mattel figures. Mattel figures have great bodies but the heads don't have any detail at all. However I think that in a couple of years that Mattel will make decent heads.
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Post by kayfabefan on Jan 3, 2010 12:40:28 GMT -5
WHAT A JOKE! Mattel figs are not REALISTIC!!! That's right they are better than a lot of Jakks products and I appreciate the scale details but open your eyes and compare! Just take a look on muscles, proportions, HEADS SIZE... the worst is certainly Rey's sculpt. His legs should be shorter, not is upper body... The figs are cool but they come from a DC/Marvel comics and not from a WWE tv show. VERY, VERY TRUE. WELL SAID!
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Post by deskjet on Jan 3, 2010 13:10:09 GMT -5
Last night I was in Kmart. Decide to stop by and finally see with my own eyes what do those figures look like. Well... I know how very sensitive everyone is in here but frankly speaking the figures leave much to be desired even compared to Jakks' half @##ed figures. Big Show looked like a caricature version of himself. Koffi outright failure. Cena, Batista and someone else three pack looked just bad. Entrance greats seem to be made of some cheesy material. I saw Mysterio and HHH. I know most of you will say that this is just the beginning and Jakks was putting out lousy figs at the beginning as well BUT: 1. Jakks was putting them out a decade ago. 2. Mattel (unlike Jakks) have a time line of competitors' mistakes to learn from. So there is really no excuse to put out something like they put out now. Faces really look like childhood caricatures. Cena's head by Jakks is tons better than Mattel, so is the Big Show. The only thing Mattel has on their side is realistic scale. Other than that nothing else, as the body types are not true to the characters. You can just see it by looking at Cena and Batista both have torsos more looking like John Morrison. But I rest my case, I know how long all of you have been waiting for it so enjoy. I respect your opinion on the product...to each his own, but, you are apparently looking for a reaction, but, I said what i thought in another thread you had. As far as jakks is concerned, it's easy to praise them for their work when they had nothing to be compared to.
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Post by McJob™ on Jan 3, 2010 13:33:59 GMT -5
mattel owns jakks i am sorry to say they are leaps and bounds ahead of where jakks was.
I have
Elite Undertaker, Rey and Punk WMH Austin 2-Pack Santino/Beth EG Rey
these figures are so much better than jakks attempts at any of them.
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Post by thelilone on Jan 3, 2010 13:36:27 GMT -5
i think if u would see a picture of CENA when he is pumped up..like posing..which he does rarely compared to hogan..but that "most muscular" pose... then you would see that he looks just like the mattel figure. .. now to be fair..it has been years that triple H, even when striking his signature entrance pose, appears that ripped!
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Post by PJ on Jan 3, 2010 14:26:13 GMT -5
please explain how Mattels Cena is SO much more accurate/realistic? The waist is tiny, the arms are small compared to his real arms, and his body has a little more fat on it than the figure. Neither jakks or mattel are perfect so I wish people would stop saying how accurate they are when they really arent. I love Mattel so far but I dont know why Cenas fig gets all the praise, I mean in real life he has a flabby waist wereas Mattel have give him a ripped six pack and muscled arms.[/quote] Will eevry Jakks Cena is ripped with huge muscled arms as well. I think the difference is when you put a Mattel figure next to a Jakks version of the same wrestler the Mattel figure has way more details & scaling than Jakks making them look more like the real thing. Which would make them more realistic. I know people keep complaining about the Mattel head scans but other than the Elite Taker, Edge & the Morrison scans they are just as well or better than many of Jakks scans. And of those 3 I list only the Morrison looks nothing like him. There is no way you can honestly tell me that between these two figures the Jakks version is better when looking at them as a whole.
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Post by WalterF on Jan 3, 2010 15:44:52 GMT -5
I personally think the figures look awesome!!!!
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 3, 2010 17:31:58 GMT -5
MATTEL > Jakks..... PERIOD!This is coming from somebody who is / was a Jakks fan, but, Mattel just make the wrestlers look more realistic. DA's were my favourite / prefered style from Jakks, but, when you think about it, there was very little scale difference there & the Arms / Bicep areas were way over ballooned for guys who didn't have huge muscles, i.e. DA Kurt Angle, loved the attire & Torso, but those balloon like Arms just on most DA's annoyed the F**k out of me. At least Mattel have hit both Scale & Realism off right at the start & the rest will improve as they go on. And why can't we say Jakks was putting out crap at the beginning, because to be fair, they were, BCA sucked, TTL was the era that Kicked Jakks into gear, RA's were hellish improvements & DA's were the ultimate figures for playability wise. All the Mattel haters need to give them a chance, they've barely had the license 3 days yet & people are complaining, things take time. Things I'd like to see improve are Older / Wrinkled up guys looking old in the Face, i.e. Finlay, so, room for improvement there. Fat / Chubby guys with that bit extra weight / possible unique Torso where affordable, i.e. Poor old Finlay again, LOL. And Jack Swagger could do with a Broader Torso / Broader Shoulders & The Head needs improved, maybes a Serious Scan instead of the smiling one, but still, it's better than Jakks Long Horse Face Head Scan of his. To be honest, I wish one Toy Company could make Wrestlers for more than just one promotion, Mattel making both WWE & TNA would be awesome, Jakks could have just UFC. please explain how Mattels Cena is SO much more accurate/realistic? The waist is tiny, the arms are small compared to his real arms, and his body has a little more fat on it than the figure. Neither jakks or mattel are perfect so I wish people would stop saying how accurate they are when they really arent. Body fat?! Cena has less than 1% body fat in real life. I really dont think his figure needs any to be accurate.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jan 3, 2010 17:42:13 GMT -5
I don't entirely disagree. I think the Big Show fig is terrible. I hate the vast majority of the heads to the point that I have switched them with Jakks heads. Some of these figures I have zero interest in. On the other hand, there are a few I have bought which totally blows away anything I have ever seen from Jakks or anyone else. Elite MVP, Santino, Beth, Mysterio are some of the best figs I have ever seen of any genre. The detail on the outfits is excellent. The scale is much better than anything from Jakks and in some cases is even comparable to RA. Elite Undertaker with the Jakks Undertaker head makes it a 100% awesome figure. Yes I had to Frankenstein it, but there is hope. With that said they really do need to work on their mostly pathetic attempts at heads. John Morrison looks like a figure you would find at a dollar store. Besides Triple H's terrible face the hair needs a complete overhaul. The figures themselves may be a little too small as well. Many of the upper bodies look like they were directly taken from R3 Chris Benoit figures. I am sort of 50/50. Some are great, some are terrible.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Jan 3, 2010 17:48:01 GMT -5
Not entirely true. Mattel consists of actually doing both, some being scanned, some being sculpted. It was in a recent interview with 2 of Mattel's employees & what goes on into making the figs. This is one thing where Mattel is definitely lacking, Although we might not have liked things he said at times, at least we had Jeremy from Jakks posting on here & doing Q & A's & stuff. We need Mattel's equivalent of Jeremy (as in the same job type role ) to sign up to these boards & represent Mattel / talk & listen to us like Jeremy did. Mattel does a TON of Q&A with numerous figures sites about their other figures lines. I'm sure we'll get a monthly Q&A just like their other figure lines.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Jan 3, 2010 17:53:53 GMT -5
I gotta say that I'm not a fan at all of the Mattel figures.
The head scans are horrible on most of them. The scale and details are great but Jakks could have done that too. Jakks personally frustrated me because they had the right parts to make the figures in scale, they just very rarely used the right parts.
Everyone complained about Jakks using the same parts over and over but I haven't heard that on here. It seems like everyone is kissing Mattel's ass. I've seen quite a few problems with Mattel figs that nobody else has seemingly picked up on.
1. How can Santino, Finlay, and Jack Swagger all use the same singlet mold and nobody notices? 2. How can guys who wear different style boots like Finlay and Stone Cold be given regular style boots and nobody notices? 3. The boot colors are wrong on Carlito and Primo (Carlito is missing laces & Primo just had blue wingtips, not completely blue boots.)
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on Jan 3, 2010 18:22:25 GMT -5
Not entirely true. Mattel consists of actually doing both, some being scanned, some being sculpted. It was in a recent interview with 2 of Mattel's employees & what goes on into making the figs. This is one thing where Mattel is definitely lacking, Although we might not have liked things he said at times, at least we had Jeremy from Jakks posting on here & doing Q & A's & stuff. We need Mattel's equivalent of Jeremy (as in the same job type role ) to sign up to these boards & represent Mattel / talk & listen to us like Jeremy did. Mattel does a TON of Q&A with numerous figures sites about their other figures lines. I'm sure we'll get a monthly Q&A just like their other figure lines. It's all well & good doing it on other figure sites, but, for their wrestling product, they need to come to a wrestling figure site & talk to wrestling fans. Jeremy came here, so, why can't somebody from Mattel?
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on Jan 3, 2010 18:28:55 GMT -5
I gotta say that I'm not a fan at all of the Mattel figures. The head scans are horrible on most of them. The scale and details are great but Jakks could have done that too. Jakks personally frustrated me because they had the right parts to make the figures in scale, they just very rarely used the right parts. Everyone complained about Jakks using the same parts over and over but I haven't heard that on here. It seems like everyone is kissing Mattel's ass. I've seen quite a few problems with Mattel figs that nobody else has seemingly picked up on. 1. How can Santino, Finlay, and Jack Swagger all use the same singlet mold and nobody notices? 2. How can guys who wear different style boots like Finlay and Stone Cold be given regular style boots and nobody notices? 3. The boot colors are wrong on Carlito and Primo (Carlito is missing laces & Primo just had blue wingtips, not completely blue boots.) See, that's the difference between Jakks & Mattel. They COULD have, but, they didn't. And remember when Jeremy said they were gonna shorten the DA's a bit & showed 2 different version of the DA 1 Batista but then they didn't do it. On point number 1, I've already brought up in other threads & in this one about some Torso / Singlet choices & areas that need worked on / adjusting. Points 2 & 3 are relatively minor, 3 more so than 2 as it would be better to get the Boots correct, however, as already mentioned, this is Mattels first attempt, they're not gonna work miracles over night. Once the kinks are sorted out here & there, I don't think there's no stopping Mattel from surpassing Jakks at anything they ever did.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Jan 3, 2010 18:52:46 GMT -5
Mattel does a TON of Q&A with numerous figures sites about their other figures lines. I'm sure we'll get a monthly Q&A just like their other figure lines. It's all well & good doing it on other figure sites, but, for their wrestling product, they need to come to a wrestling figure site & talk to wrestling fans. Jeremy came here, so, why can't somebody from Mattel? I thought that was clear based on what I had previously said. I'm sure they will, just give it time. Mattel is really good about talking to figures sites that their collectors go to and doing the montly Q&A sessions. From what I've seen with their DC figures, they have a specific person that kind of patrols the messages boards about the DC figs and interacts with the collectors.
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