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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 6, 2010 3:44:47 GMT -5
Everyone is complaining that TNA is going to be like WCW, especially how it was during the late 90's and early 00's.
For those saying that, you must have not watched WCW at all during the early 00's....because NOTHING could be as bad as that. WCW during that time was taking storylines that were on Raw and pretty much making a parody of everything they did. From making fun of J.R, to the 'greater power' storyline...blah blah blah.
I never liked TNA much, I would occasionally watch it before it was on TV. The monthly PPV's, but I never cared much about it. Now that it feels like WCW, I'm ready to watch it. I want to see where all my old wrestling favorites went and ended up...and seeing what they still have in them.
I don't think the WCW feeling will be around long. I think they want to expose those 'older' classic stars just to gain viewers...and it will. Then, slowly, but surely they'll fade into the background and let the other stars (ex WWE main talents + TNA younger main talents).
The only way TNA stars can get over is putting them in a storyline with older talent. That is how a lot of WCW stars got noticed. DDP, Booker T, Goldberg, Eddie, Jericho....there were tons.
WWE made their stars in a way that no one else could in 98/99. Mankind was famous for almost killing himself. Stone Cold was flipping people off, doing things parents would be against. But A LOT of younger stars got ahead by teaming with the 'older' stars.
Edge, Christian, Gangrel- All noticed in Takers Ministry
Hardy Boys- Teaming with Michael Hayes, and almost killing themselvers in ladder matches.
A lot of the other stars which WWE had, already established themselves in other companies. I mean...Shawn Michaels was the 'leader' of DX, and made stars from that.
ANYWAY. I am loving TNA right now, mostly because it reminds me of WCW. Don't knock all these 'old' stars so soon. People like Bischoff, Foley, Hogan, Nash will know how to create new stars. They're always creative.
....dammit, now i've typed all this ..and forgot my point...Just enjoy the show. Don't take things so personally. Enjoy the show, I will be from now on....and I haven't watched wrestling in years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2010 3:58:08 GMT -5
Yeah WCW had an amazing midcard back then, but failed to utilize them and focused more on the older guys and the NWO. So what did the midcard do? They left for bigger and better things in WWF/E. If TNA isnt carefull then history will repeat itself.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jan 6, 2010 4:26:25 GMT -5
Yeah WCW had an amazing midcard back then, but failed to utilize them and focused more on the older guys and the NWO. So what did the midcard do? They left for bigger and better things in WWF/E. If TNA isnt carefull then history will repeat itself. WWE wouldn't hire half of them, and I'm sure they (the wrestlers) know it, so unless they get sick of it (if it happens), I guess they won't leave. |
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Jan 6, 2010 7:35:52 GMT -5
i love the idea of TNA being like WCW considering i was around for WCW and love it like a kid loves candy
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 6, 2010 8:45:51 GMT -5
Thats why im so hyped over the war. Who could forget back then, flipping back and forth between the shows? It was great then, and its great now. The wrestling world seems fun and alive again for the first time in awhile.
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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Jan 6, 2010 9:35:44 GMT -5
Like jayrod said, I'm hyped over the war aswell. It's so interesting, especially since I wasn't watching wrestling when the WCW/WWE fued was going on, now I get to live one that in 10-15 years time will be talked about with the wrestling community then.
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Post by bencw on Jan 6, 2010 11:57:36 GMT -5
i completely agree. i'm glad hall and co have returned; it does remind me of wcw, which i enjoyed, but also, i like them as wrestlers too. all this 'washed up stars'thing annoys me. i'm excited too see what's going to happen.
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Post by specterkev on Jan 6, 2010 15:36:03 GMT -5
I do not mind it being like WCW I loved WCW in the late 90's.
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Post by Himmy! on Jan 6, 2010 15:48:45 GMT -5
Used to love it when WCW/WWF were feuding. I'm intrigued with TNA, but not convinced. I haven't been hooked on wrestling for a looooong time now, since about the end of 2002 when Lesnar was running riot in WWE, think thats the last good thing they did. Anyway, if they can capture anything like the excitement WCW and WWF had against each other, yeah I'll watch and enjoy it probably.
I've always liked TNA as an alternative and have always followed them, they lost me as a regular watcher in about 2005, like I said I've never been hooked on them or any wrestling for that matter since 2002 buuut I've been more interested in them than WWE for a long time, so I hope they can do something. I don't think WWE is that interested in another Monday Night War.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2010 20:16:29 GMT -5
People like Bischoff, Foley, Hogan, Nash will know how to create new stars. They're always creative. Okay I agreed with pretty much everything youve said, apart from this.. Excluding Foley, your talking about a guy (Bischoff) who in WCW dropped the ball by treating every superstar who weighed less than 280lbs like crap, you could argue that Russo did this worse but remember both of these men now have Creative Control of TNA. Hmm. And Nash, well, he is one of Wrestlings biggest bungholes. Admittedly he has (slightly) appeared to turn over a new leaf in TNA as opposed to his old 'Bury everyone I am God' ways.. But mixing egos like Hogan, Bischoff and Russo to the equation dosent look promising. Now, dont get me wrong I did like this weeks TNA Nitro, but I can fully understand why TNA fans may not be so happy with all these coffin-dodgers taking all the Air time. They were Prime Time, against WWE Raw for the first time ever! It was a big break, and surely they would have thrown the best talent in the locker room out there for a few world class matches to show what the company is all about, but instead they went and contradicted everything that theyve claimed to stand for by spending a majority of the show putting over workers who probably wont be on the pay roll in 3 months time (Hall, Waltman, probs Hogan). They understandably didnt get alot of the ratings they were aiming to achieve, but they did give old schoolers like me a pure WCW-In-their-prime blast from the past. So I cant argue too much. |
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 6, 2010 20:21:17 GMT -5
I like TNA, I did not like Monday's show.
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Post by deskjet on Jan 6, 2010 20:22:12 GMT -5
Yeah WCW TNA ha ds an amazing midcard back then, but failed to utilize them and focused more on the older guys and the NWO. So what didwill the midcard do? They leftLeave for bigger and better things in WWF/E or get buried. If TNA isnt carefull then history will repeats itself. |
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Post by MX5 on Jan 6, 2010 20:55:46 GMT -5
I disagree with every point you made in your post. WWE allowed their younger talent to be put over by the older talent. The older talent is putting older talent over in TNA, which is where the problem is.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 7, 2010 2:52:09 GMT -5
I was saying that the older talent is what helped the younger talent become something in the first place.
Unless new superstars look like Brock Lesnar
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 7, 2010 3:11:11 GMT -5
I disagree with every point you made in your post. WWE allowed their younger talent to be put over by the older talent. The older talent is putting older talent over in TNA, which is where the problem is. The "older" talent is putting over Younger talent in TNA. - Angle's put over AJ countless times. - Sting put over AJ at BFG - Jarrett put over AJ - Team 3D put over the Guns - Team 3D put ove Beer Money - Foley put over Abyss - Kevin Nash put over Eric Young - Kurt Angle put over Jay Lethal - Jeff Jarrett put over Robert Roode You don't have to win to be "put over" - Angle/Wolfe saw Wolfe get put over without Angle losing to him besides 1 match. - Angle/Morgan saw Morgan get put over without Angle losing to him |
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Jan 7, 2010 18:32:19 GMT -5
I support TNA and the WF's Critic to the fullest.
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Post by MX5 on Jan 7, 2010 23:15:39 GMT -5
I disagree with every point you made in your post. WWE allowed their younger talent to be put over by the older talent. The older talent is putting older talent over in TNA, which is where the problem is. The "older" talent is putting over Younger talent in TNA. - Angle's put over AJ countless times. - Sting put over AJ at BFG - Jarrett put over AJ - Team 3D put over the Guns - Team 3D put ove Beer Money - Foley put over Abyss - Kevin Nash put over Eric Young - Kurt Angle put over Jay Lethal - Jeff Jarrett put over Robert Roode You don't have to win to be "put over" - Angle/Wolfe saw Wolfe get put over without Angle losing to him besides 1 match. - Angle/Morgan saw Morgan get put over without Angle losing to him Fair enough, I can honestly say I don't watch enough TNA to argue against your statement. Monday night was the first time I've watched TNA in about a two years. I will say that you can't compare any of those people excluding Angle to the likes of the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 8, 2010 1:36:50 GMT -5
i have to say tna on monday had a nostalgic feel for sure, but i wouldn't go as far as calling it tna-wcw. it has the right mix of new dynamics and old elements, but i don't want to label it as wcw 2.0, it's tna, and hopefully it's something new.
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Post by Hurricane on Jan 8, 2010 5:05:45 GMT -5
Before 1/4 I was highly against bringing in the older guys, but now I'll admit that it's exciting.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 9, 2010 5:59:38 GMT -5
It had NWO/Sting in the rafters- The main focus of WCW's storylines when it was amazing to watch.
WCW had a mix of new dynamics and old wrestling (Luchadors and the original WCW wrestlers)
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