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Post by wabarrett on Jan 11, 2010 13:25:41 GMT -5
I'm really not looking forward to Ted breaking away from Legacy and what looks to be facing Orton at WrestleMania. I really can't get behind this guy, he's so bland. Exactly, I doubt anyone would cheer him over Orton. I would, I'm sick of Orton. He obviously sucks as a heel if people are gonna cheer him. Heels need to start turning on their fans, that's how to get heat. Not by saying and doing things that the heel-lovers enjoy even more. |
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Post by WFK on Jan 11, 2010 13:37:25 GMT -5
Exactly, I doubt anyone would cheer him over Orton. I would, I'm sick of Orton. He obviously sucks as a heel if people are gonna cheer him. Heels need to start turning on their fans, that's how to get heat. Not by saying and doing things that the heel-lovers enjoy even more. The thing is, most people who cheer for Randy are Internet fans who love heels. So no matter what Orton does or says hes going to get cheers. Besides, Orton is clearly the biggest heel on Raw so I have no clue how you can say he sucks as a heel. |
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 11, 2010 14:32:43 GMT -5
I would, I'm sick of Orton. He obviously sucks as a heel if people are gonna cheer him. Heels need to start turning on their fans, that's how to get heat. Not by saying and doing things that the heel-lovers enjoy even more. The thing is, most people who cheer for Randy are Internet fans who love heels. So no matter what Orton does or says hes going to get cheers. Besides, Orton is clearly the biggest heel on Raw so I have no clue how you can say he sucks as a heel. No I don't really think Orton sucks as a heel, I just said that because, you know, like you said, half the people cheer for him anyway. Whether you like a wrestler or not, I think part of being a WWE fan is cheering the good guys and booing the bad guys. You can still be a fan of a heel by all means, but I think when you are there live in the arena, you should be collectively booing his ass. |
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Post by mnm213 on Jan 11, 2010 14:39:14 GMT -5
Orton may be the biggest heel, but he's definitely not the best heel. That title belongs to the Miz.
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Post by HugoOne on Jan 11, 2010 16:03:23 GMT -5
Orton may be the biggest heel, but he's definitely not the best heel. That title belongs to the Miz. Close, but it's actually spelled J-E-R-I-C-H-O. I'd put Punk at number two and Mike Knox at number three. 'Cause Knox is a bully. Seriously though, Miz may be the freshest heel at this point, but he's got a ways to go before he can call himself the best. Not a slam against Miz, either, btw, as I enjoy him. |
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Post by wwfepenguin on Jan 11, 2010 16:13:13 GMT -5
Mike Know is a underrated heel, I would have. to go him that.
But, this is how it is.
1. Jericho
2. Orton
3. Punk
4. Miz
5. Knox (he plays a good character)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 16:25:17 GMT -5
The Miz is easily the best heel on (the official) RAW (roster). The second his music plays, he gets booed. Even last week, people heard "AWESOME" and he was booed. Iw ould agree though Jericho and Punk definatley give him a run for his money.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 11, 2010 16:28:56 GMT -5
The Miz is easily the best heel on (the official) RAW (roster). The second his music plays, he gets booed. Even last week, people heard "AWESOME" and he was booed. Iw ould agree though Jericho and Punk definatley give him a run for his money. Which is also why Smackdown > RAW  their heels are better. I would also like to add, Batista is getting tons of heat lately. |
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Post by WFK on Jan 11, 2010 16:29:43 GMT -5
Orton may be the biggest heel, but he's definitely not the best heel. That title belongs to the Miz. Close, but it's actually spelled J-E-R-I-C-H-O. I'd put Punk at number two and Mike Knox at number three. 'Cause Knox is a bully. Seriously though, Miz may be the freshest heel at this point, but he's got a ways to go before he can call himself the best. Not a slam against Miz, either, btw, as I enjoy him. I wouldn't exactly call Miz a fresh heel. He's basically Chris Jericho 2.0.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 16:32:29 GMT -5
Close, but it's actually spelled J-E-R-I-C-H-O. I'd put Punk at number two and Mike Knox at number three. 'Cause Knox is a bully. Seriously though, Miz may be the freshest heel at this point, but he's got a ways to go before he can call himself the best. Not a slam against Miz, either, btw, as I enjoy him. I wouldn't exactly call Miz a fresh heel. He's basically Chris Jericho 2.0. Why, because they both wear trunks? The Miz is far from a "serious" Jericho style heel. |
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Post by WFK on Jan 11, 2010 16:34:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't exactly call Miz a fresh heel. He's basically Chris Jericho 2.0. Why, because they both wear trunks? The Miz is far from a "serious" Jericho style heel. I meant as far as typical Jericho heel - Full of himself and arrogant. Not the uber-srs Jericho.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 16:36:05 GMT -5
But even then, Jericho wasn't the first guy to ever do "full of himself and arrogant." I don't see the comparison.
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Post by WFK on Jan 11, 2010 16:40:56 GMT -5
But even then, Jericho wasn't the first guy to ever do "full of himself and arrogant." I don't see the comparison. Never said he was. Jericho was just the first person to come to mind. |
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Post by The Future on Jan 11, 2010 17:18:34 GMT -5
I honestly think William Regal is a much better heel at this point in time than Miz, Sheamus, Knox, McIntyre, etc...
My top 5 looks as such:
Jericho
Orton
Punk
Batista
Regal
Other than this, most other current heels just tend to come off as annoying and bothersome.
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Post by rkokixas on Jan 11, 2010 17:20:22 GMT -5
Its funny now but if you notice Jericho is getting those same face cheers too so I guess he sux too than right?Well,imo he does but thats another story.
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Post by HugoOne on Jan 11, 2010 17:21:49 GMT -5
I honestly think William Regal is a much better heel at this point in time than Miz, Sheamus, Knox, McIntyre, etc... My top 5 looks as such: Jericho Orton Punk Batista Regal Other than this, most other current heels just tend to come off as annoying and bothersome. I wanted to include Regal, but he barely gets anymore on-air time, which saddens me. It's hard for me to consider him the top heel if he's not on the screen. But when he is, he's golden. When he was running Raw before his suspension, he was on his way to the biggest heel in the company. |
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Post by The Future on Jan 11, 2010 18:01:35 GMT -5
I honestly think William Regal is a much better heel at this point in time than Miz, Sheamus, Knox, McIntyre, etc... My top 5 looks as such: Jericho Orton Punk Batista Regal Other than this, most other current heels just tend to come off as annoying and bothersome. I wanted to include Regal, but he barely gets anymore on-air time, which saddens me. It's hard for me to consider him the top heel if he's not on the screen. But when he is, he's golden. When he was running Raw before his suspension, he was on his way to the biggest heel in the company. I'm just talking pure ability to garner a reaction- to rile the crowd up and be able to put on an anger-inducing rivalry with a top face through his evil tactics...Some heels nowadays just come off as horseflies- you hate them, but only because they're a constant bother. I miss the days of Willie Regal running RAW- but even on ECW, he was doing a great job during his feud with Christian...now he's just sidetracked by this 'Family Feud' going in the Ruthless Roundtable. He's the forgotten father of both Ezekiel and Kozlov...and it's just not really going anywhere. |
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 11, 2010 18:46:26 GMT -5
Future, is your sig real? If so, it has so much win in there I just grew a vagina  |
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Post by The Future on Jan 11, 2010 18:54:27 GMT -5
Future, is your sig real? If so, it has so much win in there I just grew a vagina Why yes, my friend Joheb. I found it while randomly searching Google. Our silent guardian, posed next to MickElektra herself. So much superhero glory, it makes you wanna slap your butler! |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 11, 2010 19:25:44 GMT -5
I'm a little worried that Maryse isn't going to be on tonight, given that she won in the tourney last week.
No Maryse on Raw makes Smurf a sad boy.
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