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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 8:49:59 GMT -5
Hmm... 2005: Angle (who was in a title match), Edge and HBK 2007: Matt and Jeff Hardy, Nitro 2008: Chavo Guerrero (ECW Champion) Let's wait and see. Chavo didn't have a match beforehand in 2008. No, but I'm just pointing out that simply being the ECW Champion doesn't mean you can't be in the rumble match. That title isn't really counted as a world title. A few points after reading earlier comments: 1. If Zack Ryder won the rumble match I would cry. Last decade, the winners were The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Chris Benoit, Batista, Rey Mysterio, The Undertaker, John Cena and Randy Orton. These 9 superstars are light-years ahead of Ryder. 2. I have to agree this rumble is looking very unpredictable; I think a reason for this is that the focus hasn't been on one or two superstars (think 2007, the winner was ALWAYS going to be HBK or The Undertaker). This year, HBK, Triple H, John Cena, Ted Dibiase and Chris Jericho all look like believable winners to me. Also, superstars like CM Punk, Jack Swagger and Cody Rhodes have made bold claims that they will win. I cannot wait for this year's rumble event (oops, I'm saying it now). The ONLY downfall to me is Sheamus. I STILL don't like him.
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Post by gordon on Jan 16, 2010 9:09:39 GMT -5
If Zack Ryder won the Rumble I would never watch WWE again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 9:31:09 GMT -5
I can understand Taker, Rock, Austin, and everyone except Batista. He's light years ahead of Ryder?
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Post by The Future on Jan 16, 2010 9:56:31 GMT -5
We all have our own opinions. Some people here actually think Cody Rhodes or Miz would be able to win the rumble at this point in their career. In my honest opinion, Zack Ryder has more potential, star qualities and pure ability than either of those men.
This is all a matter of opinion, of course...so we'll never fully come to an agreement. All you can do is respect our opinion, and all we can do is respect yours.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 12:21:04 GMT -5
If Zack Ryder won the Rumble I would never watch WWE again. I was close to saying that, but I thought I would get some people giving the treatment. And no you're right Future, we're all bound to have different opinions. I personally do see Cody Rhodes as a lock for a future world champion and believe it would be a crime if he somehow left WWE without a title run. The Miz, not so much. Zack Ryder, even less. E&C, yes, I honestly believe Batista was totally ready for that rumble win and it NEEDED to happen. It instantly took Batista from being an already popular upper carder, to a lock in future world champion. Zack Ryder has a long, long way to go before that. All he's done so far is be an Edge clone, and then return looking like Grandmaster Sexay, but with only half of his tights intact.
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Post by The Future on Jan 16, 2010 12:37:48 GMT -5
Don't you EVER compare the Lord of Long Island to Grandmasta Sexay again... >:-o
In all seriousness- it's still WAY too early for him to win the Rumble. It would come off as being forced and contrived. Some people would feel he's being given too much, too soon(Ahem, Sheamus) and further fuel their distaste for him.
Within the next three or four years, however- with some turnover in talent and continued build toward his character, I do definitely see a Rumble win or MITB briefcase winner in the making for Zack Ryder. He's seriously got a great level of comfort with the mic, all-around ring talent, and marketable catchphrases/look/unique style, etc...
I understand if you don't see much in him now- but who thought Orton could be a believable Franchise-type heel when he first debuted on SD! as a fresh-faced, generic blue chipper. Ryder's evolved both in the ring and character wise. Being an Edgehead, in my opinion at least- saved him from the terrible blandness of the 'Major Brothers' and I think he's struck gold now with his current 'Bro' gimmick because the popularity of Jersey Shore, the always popular character of a Primadonna, and his arrogance and charisma all make for a future star. You can doubt or dislike it, but that's how I see it...
Eventually, I see Cody doing great for himself as well- but name two or three feuds Rhodes has made work all on his own. Name three or four memorable things he's ever said. Name what you would describe as his character's persona. To me, it's simply a lock for Ryder to be a future mainstay in the upper-midcard/main event.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 13:25:31 GMT -5
Don't you EVER compare the Lord of Long Island to Grandmasta Sexay again... >:-o In all seriousness- it's still WAY too early for him to win the Rumble. It would come off as being forced and contrived. Some people would feel he's being given too much, too soon(Ahem, Sheamus) and further fuel their distaste for him. Within the next three or four years, however- with some turnover in talent and continued build toward his character, I do definitely see a Rumble win or MITB briefcase winner in the making for Zack Ryder. He's seriously got a great level of comfort with the mic, all-around ring talent, and marketable catchphrases/look/unique style, etc... I understand if you don't see much in him now- but who thought Orton could be a believable Franchise-type heel when he first debuted on SD! as a fresh-faced, generic blue chipper. Ryder's evolved both in the ring and character wise. Being an Edgehead, in my opinion at least- saved him from the terrible blandness of the 'Major Brothers' and I think he's struck gold now with his current 'Bro' gimmick because the popularity of Jersey Shore, the always popular character of a Primadonna, and his arrogance and charisma all make for a future star. You can doubt or dislike it, but that's how I see it... Eventually, I see Cody doing great for himself as well- but name two or three feuds Rhodes has made work all on his own. Name three or four memorable things he's ever said. Name what you would describe as his character's persona. To me, it's simply a lock for Ryder to be a future mainstay in the upper-midcard/main event. Well yeah, we shall have to wait and see if he's still with the WWE in a years time even. It's simply too early to say. I also agree with what you said about Orton, I was even thinking last Monday on RAW how far he has come since 2002. BUT, I have to say it only took about a year after Orton's debut to be convinced. Ryder has been around a little longer than that and I am not a believer yet. I'm not a massive fan of his mic skills even; I mean, on ECW this past Tuesday, he was annoying me a bit with the amount of times he just said 'Are you serious, bro?' even after being beaten out of the ring. Overkill. As for Cody, yeah you're right, he doesn't have anything much that defines him. However, I think he is good all-round, something that a lot of superstars are not (The Miz in the ring for instance, he's still just average).
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Post by sean™ on Jan 16, 2010 13:28:18 GMT -5
I'm calling it right now, and sure....go ahead and quote me.
Chris Jericho will win the Royal Rumble, allowing him to go to any show he wants. He will then be tricked into putting his WM Shot up for grabs at EC. Enter Edge, who not only returns in his usual controversial fashion, but also costs Jericho his title shot, leading into their match at WM.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 13:35:41 GMT -5
I'm calling it right now, and sure....go ahead and quote me. Chris Jericho will win the Royal Rumble, allowing him to go to any show he wants. He will then be tricked into putting his WM Shot up for grabs at EC. Enter Edge, who not only returns in his usual controversial fashion, but also costs Jericho his title shot, leading into their match at WM. So you think these two will not be fighting over any gold? Hmm could happen, assuming it was HBK/ The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight title (or maybe even against Cena), and then the inevitably lackluster Triple H/ Sheamus to top RAW's poor showing.
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Post by rkokixas on Jan 16, 2010 13:42:15 GMT -5
How does winning the Rumble allow you to be on any show you want?I thought that was just for the Unified Tag Champs?
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 13:51:58 GMT -5
How does winning the Rumble allow you to be on any show you want?I thought that was just for the Unified Tag Champs? The winner has to decide which world title they are going after? Until Jericho decides (assuming he was to win), he could go on any show I guess.
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Post by Dan88 on Jan 16, 2010 14:43:28 GMT -5
Yeah, taker kinda showed up on all 3 after he won then made his choice who to face on RAW also, so i could see that working as a way to get jericho appearing on raw ect.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jan 16, 2010 14:48:53 GMT -5
Plus, it's WWE. That's another way Jericho could be on all three shows.
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Post by yankeesforever on Jan 16, 2010 15:06:59 GMT -5
I can see Jericho win now , after what was said in the last 3 posts. Also, thw WWE had a Heel win the Rumble last year for the first time in..... 9 years . So maybe they'll do another
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 15:18:07 GMT -5
The last time a tweener one was in 2005. Hehe.
What ever happened to not being face or heel? I can Orton heading down that route.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 16:03:04 GMT -5
Is Punk/Gallows vs DX gonna be at the Rumble?
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Post by Phantom on Jan 16, 2010 16:07:17 GMT -5
Is Punk/Gallows vs DX gonna be at the Rumble? Most likely Smackdown! My picks as of right now to win the Rumble are Morrison, HBK, and Edge.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2010 16:45:48 GMT -5
Is Punk/Gallows vs DX gonna be at the Rumble? I don't know, but I doubt it because Punk seems focused on winning the rumble match. But, as I've said before, he could be on another match on the card and still be in it. But I don't think so. I hate those two as a tag team. I just hate when superstars have bodyguards and make tag teams outta them, they always suck.
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Post by *Ricky Spanish* on Jan 16, 2010 18:46:21 GMT -5
For those of you that have an HD tv do you always order the PPV in HD or only if its like wrestlemania? For me The Rumble,Echamber,WM,Summer Slam,& Sseries are all worth HD feed
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jan 16, 2010 19:05:03 GMT -5
For those of you that have an HD tv do you always order the PPV in HD or only if its like wrestlemania? For me The Rumble,Echamber,WM,Summer Slam,& Sseries are all worth HD feed I only order the Big 4, and lately, not very many of them have been worth the standard price, let alone the HD price.
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