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Post by deskjet on Jan 18, 2010 21:26:59 GMT -5
First of all you just contradicted yourself. You said you were'nt on board with the loss of the 6 sided ring but now you are. Isnt that being hypocritical or you dont call it that when it pertains to you. Why can't people just change their mind from time to time, is there a law against that? I didn't say there was a law against it. I love the new set up in the iMPACT Zone as it looks ten times better. I didn't say people couldn't change their mind, as I changed mine, but it's not just about the ring. I used the arena change as an example of people being hypocritical. SG, you are going to love TNA no matter what. And that's whatever. More power to you. But I've posted here a lot the last few months and I think it was pretty obvious I was a big fan of the product. And my TNA DVD collection is nearly complete. And I was okay with Hogan coming in because I thought he really wanted to improve upon the solid foundation TNA already had. But instead he's only concerned with changing things to the way that pleases him, not the fans. And all of the talent that busted their asses are getting buried in favor of re-treads who are past their prime. Rebooting was the kind of thing that killed any remaining credibility WCW had. Their talent isn't getting buried. AJ went over Angle, Beer Money went over "The Band" who TNA hyped up like it was the second coming, Red went over Kendrick, Anderson had to CHEAT to beat Abyss which to me put over Abyss because it was like Kennedy knew he couldn't beat him without cheating. I don't get how TNA talent is getting buried, I don't see it at all. It's not about what you didnt say. It's what you said. You said others were changing their minds and were hypocrits, when you yourself did the same thing. are you admitting you're lumped in with those same people?
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 18, 2010 21:30:15 GMT -5
I didn't say there was a law against it. I love the new set up in the iMPACT Zone as it looks ten times better. I didn't say people couldn't change their mind, as I changed mine, but it's not just about the ring. I used the arena change as an example of people being hypocritical. Their talent isn't getting buried. AJ went over Angle, Beer Money went over "The Band" who TNA hyped up like it was the second coming, Red went over Kendrick, Anderson had to CHEAT to beat Abyss which to me put over Abyss because it was like Kennedy knew he couldn't beat him without cheating. I don't get how TNA talent is getting buried, I don't see it at all. It's not about what you didnt say. It's what you said. You said others were changing their minds and were hypocrits, when you yourself did the same thing. are you admitting you're lumped in with those same people? I'm not being hypocritical though. I didn't say "I want them to keep the ring" or "They need to keep the ring", I didn't agree with it and all I really said was "Ugh". That's different than 6 months ago saying "LOLZ TNA isn't a real company with that ring!" and then now saying "WHAT?! WHY DID THEY CHANGED THE RING?!". There's a difference between the two. Maybe I worded it wrong, oh well. The point was: People need to make up their f'n mind! Either you want something to change and accept it when they do or don't complain when it happens. That better?
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Post by deskjet on Jan 18, 2010 21:39:24 GMT -5
It's not about what you didnt say. It's what you said. You said others were changing their minds and were hypocrits, when you yourself did the same thing. are you admitting you're lumped in with those same people? I'm not being hypocritical though. I didn't say "I want them to keep the ring" or "They need to keep the ring", I didn't agree with it and all I really said was "Ugh". That's different than 6 months ago saying "LOLZ TNA isn't a real company with that ring!" and then now saying "WHAT?! WHY DID THEY CHANGED THE RING?!". There's a difference between the two. Maybe I worded it wrong, oh well. The point was: People need to make up their f'n mind! Either you want something to change and accept it when they do or don't complain when it happens. That better? No, it's not better becasue when you replied to this post you actually admitted you were'nt on board, which means you were not for it. Whatever degree, you changed your mind just like everyone else, whether you openly and vehemently vocied your opinion about the change or not. Point is, people can change their mind all they want, you or no one else should give a crap. People like stuff for different reasons and if they choose to complain about it or say they dont like it, that's fine, but it doent make them a hypocrite in my opinion...maybe to you it does, but then again, you'd need to admit that you are one too according to that philosphy.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 18, 2010 21:46:46 GMT -5
Okay, whatever you say. I'm not about to get into with you - again.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jan 18, 2010 21:50:39 GMT -5
You know what is indeed messed up? Not the stage, not the bookers (well, yeah, maybe, but I'm not talking about this now), not Hogan.
I would like to know what are the Nasty Boys doing there, Orlando Jordan, and those guys... Don't get me wrong, I loved OJ on WWE, and no, I don't hate the Nasty Boys, but why are those guys on the show, while the TNA Global Champion Eric Young hasn't been on since God knows when. I hadn't watched TNA in a long time, since Slammiversary, and I decided to start watching again the 4th, and I didn't saw Young there... I didn't watched him last week, and I didn't heard of him appearing on Genesis. So really, someone tell me, how is TNA pushing young talent (no pun intended) and when your Global Champion is one of those guys, you just don't put him on your shows? I am not a fan of Eric, and never have been since Team Canada disbanded, but if he's the champion, he should be there... If he isn't a draw, then why is he a champion in the first place?
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Post by deskjet on Jan 18, 2010 21:51:18 GMT -5
Okay, whatever you say. I'm not about to get into with you - again. no you never do. But you always want to call someone else out. If you're gonna dish it out, learn to take it sometimes
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 18, 2010 21:58:29 GMT -5
Okay, whatever you say. I'm not about to get into with you - again. no you never do. But you always want to call someone else out. If you're gonna dish it out, learn to take it sometimes I was done until you made that comment. Learn to take it?! Are you freaking new? I've taken a lot of crap from this forum and I shot back every time. I've had people "dish out" a whole lot more and worse things than I did. I've learned to "take it" - big time. Also, always want to call someone else out?! That's odd, no one says anything when people bash me.
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Post by Juba on Jan 18, 2010 22:00:36 GMT -5
i don't get how a man who needs a cane to walk around is on the roster a competing. (this being knobs). this is probably the only thing i truley disagree with at the moment. Nasty boys shouldn't be anywhere near a wrestling ring at this time.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 18, 2010 22:07:35 GMT -5
Dudleys vs Nasty's are about that exactly. They shouldn't be there....
But whoever considered ECW a good wrestling, god forbid, they call TNA a bad show...
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Post by deskjet on Jan 18, 2010 23:05:12 GMT -5
no you never do. But you always want to call someone else out. If you're gonna dish it out, learn to take it sometimes That's odd, no one says anything when people bash me. DO you blame them? I'm not trying to get on you but I think you try to correct everyone too much when they offer an opinion in opposition to TNA. And you know, that's your perogative to do so, but like I said, when someone calls you out, dont be surprised by it. Fact is, you change your mind just like everyone else so what gives you the right to call anyone a hypocrite.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jan 18, 2010 23:11:57 GMT -5
i think its atleast watchable now
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 18, 2010 23:20:56 GMT -5
Hogan's treating the company like it was sh*t before he came in It was. Watch some ROH tapes then. TNA has always been like that - and now it's less so than ever before.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 18, 2010 23:27:06 GMT -5
Man......now they are alienating hardcore TNA fans. The whole product is going down the tubes. Welcome to the end of TNA. Real shame too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 0:04:41 GMT -5
Man......now they are alienating hardcore TNA fans. The whole product is going down the tubes. Welcome to the end of TNA. Real shame too. Oh no, complete and utter smart mark fanboys aren't going to be the majority of TNA's fanbase. Whatever shall we do!? - Triple S
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 0:23:31 GMT -5
Man......now they are alienating hardcore TNA fans. The whole product is going down the tubes. Welcome to the end of TNA. Real shame too. Oh no, complete and utter smart mark fanboys aren't going to be the majority of TNA's fanbase. Whatever shall we do!? - Triple S You expected something different?
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Post by the franchise on Jan 19, 2010 0:31:46 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for those epic Dudleys/Nasty Boys matches that are coming. If D-Von breaks out the bouncing headbutt again all will be right in the wrestling world. Do it TNA.
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Post by kjw on Jan 19, 2010 3:53:13 GMT -5
Why you ask Lone Wolf about Eric Young ? It is because someone in the company likes Eric Young,that's why.It's not the whole frigging company who likes him.He is not a main event nor a draw of any kind so that is why you don't see him on tv.It was bound to happen,as predicted.He is also way too small to be a main event wrestler.And isn't believable in any way period.
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Post by machoking on Jan 19, 2010 4:33:11 GMT -5
i think its atleast watchable now Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, TNA is better now that it has been for a very long time.
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Post by deskjet on Jan 19, 2010 6:33:40 GMT -5
i think its atleast watchable now Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, TNA is better now that it has been for a very long time. The company still has alot of things that needs to be worked out, but as pc83uk said, i believe in another thread, TNA is starting to have a more broader appeal with the influx of guys like Anderson, Morely, the band(yuck). And while I dont agree that these old heads should always go over the homegrown talent, at least TNA is serving a balance. I think it said alot for BMI to go over the band, and for Red to beat Kendrick. Moreover, to be honest, the 4 sided ring, as much as i liked the 6 sided one, does make them look more like a "real" wrestling compnay. The problem i have with TNA is that they never tie up their loose ends. I mean hell, we've got 5 briefcases running around that no one even mentions, a number one contender in Bobby Lasley who one week doesnt want to be with the company and the next week he's feuding with Abyss? The first thing i would do is have one show to cash in all those cases, throw Lashley in their as a 3 way for the World, then never do that Fiest or Fired crap ever again!
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Post by June on Jan 19, 2010 9:50:39 GMT -5
I am actually enjoying TNA for the first time. I have tried to watch in the past but that schmuck Don West, convoluted and unfinished storylines and crazy and confusing gimmick matches just made it hard to get into. It seems that it kind of coming together now. But honestly, what the hell do I know? I have only been watching since 1/6 when I caught the 1/4 replay. You hit the nail on the head and were able to sum up the first 7 years of TNA in a nutshell. Don West and Tenay were awful, JB is garbage and the gimmick matches were crap (backwards battle royals) and the 6-sided play pen was a joke. The audience that TNA catered too had as much appeal as they had earning potential, which is why TNA PPV's dont sell and why admission is free for IMPACT & PPV tapings. Add to that the large focus on undersized spotty indy types and un-attractive female talent, along with a career midcarder with a thirst to become the companies version of Ric Flair (Jarrett) and misguided, uninteresting and inconclusive storylines you have a complete clusterfunk that needed to be shaken to it's very core. For the first time I look forward to watching TNA and I guess that's a good thing. I just hope for TNA's sake they are able to get out of the IMPACT ZONE soon.
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