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Post by Jord on Jan 19, 2010 11:31:00 GMT -5
I do agree with SodaGuy that there's plenty of people here that hate TNA for the hell of it, the prime example being the six-rided ring. TNA got rid of it, yet people STILL complain that it sucks. Make your mind up.
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 12:15:49 GMT -5
To be honest, I like both of the wrestling ring(The 4-sided when TNA first started & then the 6-sided ring). But Ever since "Hemorrhoid" Hulk Hogan & "Bullsh*ter" Bischoff came to TNA to make some so-called changes, I already knew that they were going to go back to the WcW days again & make TNA alot more boring than ever. Also, now that they've gotten the 4-sided ring back & also having A.J. to put his TNA title on the line against whoever his opponent is (by Bischoff's choosing) instead of waiting for the PPV to come up, they're really ruining it BIG TIME & also they don't need to have any of the washed-up has-beens back there like Hall, Waltman, Morley & the crippled Nasty "Bums" Boys too. Plus I also read now that the people who work for TNA want the audience to watch their mouths, not to bring any so-called gang signs(or whatever it was they said on another web-site) & to just keep their cool & enjoy the matches. But Jeff Jarrett needs to let Hogan, Bischoff & that dumb b**ch Dixie Carter know of how things should be done & how the Sport of Professional Wrestling should be & not as a damned circus to all three of them idiots. Because I remember when TNA was on Monday the 4 & they had that cage match for the X-Division Title & Suicide was disqualified for using a foreign object, I know all of you heard the browd say "BullSh*t before it was blocked out & TNA hasn't done that for some time unless I missed something from before. But TNA had better get their things & act straight or they're going to wind up like WcW, losing all of their fans, their money for their merchandise & whatever else that they're going to loose thanks to Hogna, Bischoff & Carter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 12:35:31 GMT -5
I've definatly not been a big fan of TNA since Hogie took over.
The ring change That's ok with me, the matches themselves won't increase/decrease in quality. However I'm not a fan of the raised ramp, as it eliminates room for outside spots. And as you all saw at Genesis, AJ didn't have much room to do his signature flip over the top rope, to the outside.
New signings Flair, Kennedy and Hardy. All good signings I suppose, although I do feel they over-hyped Kennedy's debut, and that hype should have been saved for Hardy or Flair. The roster was kind of over crowded before, but now it's even worse, with signings that won't benefit TNA one bit, such as Sean Morley, Orlando Jordan, and the Nasty Boys. I just hope some of these less important signings, are only short term, and will hopefully be used to put over young talent.
Booking I don't know who controls the booking, as like all of you, I don't work for TNA, so none of us really know who makes what decision. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's still Russo, Morley going over Daniels cleanly was one of the worst booking decisions I've ever seen. And AJ's heel turn, I doubt that'll turn out well, as he's their most popular star, and everyone will always pop for his moves. He's one of those few wrestlers who seems to get no heat from anyone, and not many wrestlers can achieve that.
"Cast members" I feel that TNA having to resort to basically lecturing their fans is a bit of a joke. Ok I can understand no swearing etc, but to basically say they have to cheer for who TNA tell them to, is crazy. Did TNA really think that people were going to cheer for Morley, who comes out in a towel washed up from WWE Heat, over a TNA Original, Daniels?
The shows themselves Genesis wasn't a good PPV in my opinion, it gets a 5 or 6 out of 10 at best. They made some poor match making decisions, such as having Abyss face Kennedy, someone smaller would have been a much better opponent. And Venis and Daniels I didn't think matched up well in styles.
Upcoming events I've read the iMPACT spoilers for this week, and I'll be sure to comment on them after the show has aired, but it has got to be one of the most stupid things TNA could have possibly done.
I've been a TNA fan for several years now, and it's definalty had lots of ups and downs. I'll do my best to stay loyal to TNA by watching all their shows and PPV's, and going to the UK Tours. But each and every week, it seems like I'm losing more and more faith in TNAs potential.
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 13:04:10 GMT -5
Well, ever since Bischoff used to work for the NWA until they split from WcW & he was running the show & had Hogna, Hall & then Nash come from the WWF, it was all about Bischoff who screwed the champions as well the other wrestlers & he's doing the same thing again in TNA. Because that nWo thing was nothing but a 4-Horsemen joke in my book. I've never liked Bollea when he first started out back in '78 & I still don't like him as much as "The Brain" Bobby Heenan never did when Bollea came to the WWF to win his first Chumpionship & then came out with that stupid cartoon show back in the '80s. That was the worst thing that he had ever done & I was never a "Hulk-a-maniac" either. So, I know that all of his former "Hulk-A-Maniacs lost him as their so-called-hero. He's another has-been entertainer & that what he & Bischoff are making the TNA Superstars become instead of Professional Wrestlers. This is starting to turn into a Reborn WWF(E) as Sports Entertainment & NOT Professioan Wrestling. So, who are Hogan & Bischoff trying to fool or bullsh*t? And also I read that during BMI vs. Nash's & Waltman's tag team match (when Hall p*ssy-whimped out because of a so-called groin injury), was coming through the crowd & he hit a fan & if I was that person, I would sue him & TNA for what happed at that PPV, because it wasn't in the so-called-script to me. That was blantent & if that was me over there at a PPV show & I got hit by one of the wrestlers like that, I would tell Security & have them take me to the TNA Main Office & file a complaint & press charges against whoever hit me. And I would also make sure that person would never wrestle at another TNA, WWE or NWA or any wrestling PPV ever again. I wouldn't take any sh*t like that. I went to a PPV wrestling show in Ft. Lauderdale with my ex-best friend & his girlfriend back in 2003 & we three had a great time & just enjoyed that matches & met some of the superstars, talked to them, & then went home after the event & had a good time. Nobody getting hit or spat on or whatever. But if TNA don't get their stuff together soon & wake up to see of what's happening to their business with Hogna & Bischoff, they may go out of business too & they'll be nothing but a memory.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 13:22:25 GMT -5
Well, ever since Bischoff used to work for the NWA until they split from WcW & he was running the show & had Hogna, Hall & then Nash come from the WWF, it was all about Bischoff who screwed the champions as well the other wrestlers & he's doing the same thing again in TNA. Because that nWo thing was nothing but a 4-Horsemen joke in my book. I've never liked Bollea when he first started out back in '78 & I still don't like him as much as "The Brain" Bobby Heenan never did when Bollea came to the WWF to win his first Chumpionship & then came out with that stupid cartoon show back in the '80s. That was the worst thing that he had ever done & I was never a "Hulk-a-maniac" either. So, I know that all of his former "Hulk-A-Maniacs lost him as their so-called-hero. He's another has-been entertainer & that what he & Bischoff are making the TNA Superstars become instead of Professional Wrestlers. This is starting to turn into a Reborn WWF(E) as Sports Entertainment & NOT Professioan Wrestling. So, who are Hogan & Bischoff trying to fool or bullsh*t? And also I read that during BMI vs. Nash's & Waltman's tag team match (when Hall p*ssy-whimped out because of a so-called groin injury), was coming through the crowd & he hit a fan & if I was that person, I would sue him & TNA for what happed at that PPV, because it wasn't in the so-called-script to me. That was blantent & if that was me over there at a PPV show & I got hit by one of the wrestlers like that, I would tell Security & have them take me to the TNA Main Office & file a complaint & press charges against whoever hit me. And I would also make sure that person would never wrestle at another TNA, WWE or NWA or any wrestling PPV ever again. I wouldn't take any sh*t like that. I went to a PPV wrestling show in Ft. Lauderdale with my ex-best friend & his girlfriend back in 2003 & we three had a great time & just enjoyed that matches & met some of the superstars, talked to them, & then went home after the event & had a good time. Nobody getting hit or spat on or whatever. But if TNA don't get their stuff together soon & wake up to see of what's happening to their business with Hogna & Bischoff, they may go out of business too & they'll be nothing but a memory. Seriously, use paragraphs and less &'s. Until then, I doubt most people will even read your replies. I also love how people are mostly hung up with Morley going over Daniels clean, which is why it's terrible booking. Now, I didn't read spoilers ( and none should be posted ). However, I would imagine they're feud continues on. Even if it doesn't... Sean Morley ( a face ), on his TNA debut, went cleanly over Daniels ( a heel ). It makes perfect sense. And say whatever you'd like about "Venis", but the guy can still work a great match and he showed it with Daniels on Sunday. Morley was underutilized in the WWE. So TNA brings him and is using him the way he should be used, as a real competition. - Triple S
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 19, 2010 13:22:43 GMT -5
Ive always been "alright" with TNA. Ive never been a big fan of the 6 sided ring and Ive expressed that over the years here. The booking however was still good enough where I could look past the ring. Now that we have a classical 4 sided ring, the booking is back to comical. I tune into TNA to see MCMG, AJ Styles and Chris Daniels....I dont care if they're not getting the superstar push of a John Cena, the guys are just talented and thats what I want to see. However now when I tune in I get to see Mr. Kennedy (he doesnt deserve to share my last name), Nasty Boys, val venis etc. These guys have been career mid carders at best and yet now they are getting not only the pushes but the air time. Its just silly. I want TNA to do well, I really do but Im not gonna be a TNA fan boy and sit here and take everything they shove down my throat and praise it like its a gift from God then bitch about how WWE fans are brainwashed.
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 13:46:01 GMT -5
Seriously, use paragraphs and less &'s. Until then, I doubt most people will even read your replies.
I also love how people are mostly hung up with Morley going over Daniels clean, which is why it's terrible booking.
Now, I didn't read spoilers ( and none should be posted ). However, I would imagine they're feud continues on. Even if it doesn't... Sean Morley ( a face ), on his TNA debut, went cleanly over Daniels ( a heel ). It makes perfect sense. And say whatever you'd like about "Venis", but the guy can still work a great match and he showed it with Daniels on Sunday. Morley was underutilized in the WWE. So TNA brings him and is using him the way he should be used, as a real competition.
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Let me say this to you Triple S, I'll type the way that I want to type & if I want to use the "&" sign alot other than typing the "and" phrase for you, well then "TOO BAD, SO SAD!" If you don't like the way that I type or how I use different phrases, it's my computer that I'm on & not your's. Alright dude? So, get over it & you type your phrases your way & I'll type my phrases my way. We're on here tot alk about why TNA is now beginning to "SUCK" thanx to Hogan & Bischoff. Not by the way somebody types their phrases man.
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Post by ROHWorld_Steven on Jan 19, 2010 13:53:10 GMT -5
For anybody that was a bit indifferent or didn't like the last few weeks of TNA, go and watch RAW from last night. That crap makes TNA look perfect.
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Post by Rant Casey on Jan 19, 2010 14:03:24 GMT -5
For anybody that was a bit indifferent or didn't like the last few weeks of TNA, go and watch RAW from last night. That crap makes TNA look perfect. I enjoyed last nights Raw considerably more than TNA's recent product. My major problem with TNA now is that the roster is overloaded, like the WWE after Vince bought WCW. TNA needs to cut a lot of this fat, stop bringing in WWE rejects. Venis might be able to work a match, but he hasn't done anything in his career to show that he is on the same level as Daniels in TNA. Orlando Jordan being brought in is just pointless, there is no need for him. Cut 1/3 of the roster and focus on the amazing talent that you have.
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Post by DKR on Jan 19, 2010 14:12:02 GMT -5
For anybody that was a bit indifferent or didn't like the last few weeks of TNA, go and watch RAW from last night. That crap makes TNA look perfect. This has to be joke. As much as I am trying to give TNA a chance, RAW was better then the 1/4 TNA show and the one after it. And it was a normal RAW, not some "new era" show. Now I have enjoyed TNA since Hogan and company came on board. Last week was an enjoyable show. I have also been trying to get myself caught up on some TNA history and matches so I could be a more educated viewer. But honestly, after reading the spoilers for next week, I think my "giving TNA a chance" experiment is over.
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Post by ROHWorld_Steven on Jan 19, 2010 15:18:55 GMT -5
RAW has been awful for quite a long time now. The celebrity hosts do absolutely nothing for the show apart from robbing valuable air time. Non wrestlers as host suck, Orton in a squash match, Sheamus in a squash match, bad Diva's match and a very average main event wrecked by a midget and a non-wrestler.
I don't know how you could have found that tripe entertaining if I'm honest. The opening promo and the ending were OK but nothing special.
I am the first one to criticise TNA but having watched last night's RAW I really am glad I've started to watch more of TNA recently.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 15:43:51 GMT -5
It's not all bad, at the least the show still features some wrestling and not endless "comedy" segments.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 19, 2010 16:10:03 GMT -5
RAW has been awful for quite a long time now. The celebrity hosts do absolutely nothing for the show apart from robbing valuable air time. Non wrestlers as host suck, Orton in a squash match, Sheamus in a squash match, bad Diva's match and a very average main event wrecked by a midget and a non-wrestler. I don't know how you could have found that tripe entertaining if I'm honest. The opening promo and the ending were OK but nothing special. I am the first one to criticise TNA but having watched last night's RAW I really am glad I've started to watch more of TNA recently. That's exactly how I feel about Raw and WWE in general. The only thing that bothers me in TNA, are the wrestlers doing cheesy ass taunts when they are making their entrance. But that's a small little complaint.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 19, 2010 16:15:30 GMT -5
[qoute]As much as I am trying to give TNA a chance, RAW was better then the 1/4 TNA show and the one after it. And it was a normal RAW, not some "new era" show.[/quote]
No, you're saying that just because you probably feel loyal to Raw because you've been watching it so long. You're more familiar with the wrestlers and everything.
In terms of a wrestling show, Raw has been terrible..absolutey terrible since they though bringing in Umaga and people like the Spirit Squad in, and that was a few years ago, when they started changing the show for a younger crowd.
TNA has been terrible up until two weeks ago. It's actually tollerable and doesn't feel so 'kid' friendly. Of course, with names like "beer money" as a tag team isn't going to help TNA's image. That's a terrible name, but they're a great team. I think if you give TNA a chance for another few months, you're opinion will slowly change...
I mean, even me, I have to give TNA a chance also. I am, and i'm liking it. I stopped watching wrestling all together for years now because of how bad it's been. UFC has been 'my thing' for awhile. TNA now, has finally found a solid ground for me to come back into the show. It's great, i'm glad it's fresh and featuring my old favorites.
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 16:32:27 GMT -5
It's not all bad, at the least the show still features some wrestling and not endless "comedy" segments. That's where you're wrong. Now that Hogan & Bischoff are running the show, they're just turning TNA into a damn circus & they're going back to the WcW/nWo days. This isn't no new change. It's just the same old boring bullChocolate Shark that they did in WcW/nWo & TNA's going to go bankrupt. Trust me.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 19, 2010 16:38:31 GMT -5
No they're not. The main storyline isn't even focused on the 'NWO'. After Sunday, i'm very sure everyone is wanting to see where A.J goes.
Hogan hasn't done much at all, unlike Bischoff, who's acting as a heel general manager. So far, there are just 'teases' of NWO-like things, but it's nothing the same.
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 16:45:28 GMT -5
No they're not. The main storyline isn't even focused on the 'NWO'. After Sunday, i'm very sure everyone is wanting to see where A.J goes. Hogan hasn't done much at all, unlike Bischoff, who's acting as a heel general manager. So far, there are just 'teases' of NWO-like things, but it's nothing the same. Think of what you want dude. I know of what I'm saying is true & if you can't accept the truth of TNA will fold or not, then as the late "Crippler" Chris Beniot would say & I Quote, "Prove Me Wrong".....UnQuote. Then we'll see of who's telling the truth & who's not.
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Post by DKR on Jan 19, 2010 16:49:51 GMT -5
No, you're saying that just because you probably feel loyal to Raw because you've been watching it so long. You're more familiar with the wrestlers and everything. In terms of a wrestling show, Raw has been terrible..absolutey terrible since they though bringing in Umaga and people like the Spirit Squad in, and that was a few years ago, when they started changing the show for a younger crowd. TNA has been terrible up until two weeks ago. It's actually tollerable and doesn't feel so 'kid' friendly. Of course, with names like "beer money" as a tag team isn't going to help TNA's image. That's a terrible name, but they're a great team. I think if you give TNA a chance for another few months, you're opinion will slowly change... I mean, even me, I have to give TNA a chance also. I am, and i'm liking it. I stopped watching wrestling all together for years now because of how bad it's been. UFC has been 'my thing' for awhile. TNA now, has finally found a solid ground for me to come back into the show. It's great, i'm glad it's fresh and featuring my old favorites. No. I really did feel that Raw was a better show... And implying that the reason why I liked Raw better was because I am familiar with wrestlers makes no sense...if that was the case, I would head over heels for TNA. Hogan, Hall, Nash, Flair, Angle, The fn' Nasty Boys, 3D, Val Venis, Eric Bischoff, Jeff Jarrett, and Mick Foley are all wrestlers that I am quite familiar with. I have been for damn near 20 years on some of them...
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Post by oldschoolfan1976 on Jan 19, 2010 16:50:24 GMT -5
Ive always been "alright" with TNA. Ive never been a big fan of the 6 sided ring and Ive expressed that over the years here. The booking however was still good enough where I could look past the ring. Now that we have a classical 4 sided ring, the booking is back to comical. I tune into TNA to see MCMG, AJ Styles and Chris Daniels....I dont care if they're not getting the superstar push of a John Cena, the guys are just talented and thats what I want to see. However now when I tune in I get to see Mr. Kennedy (he doesnt deserve to share my last name), Nasty Boys, val venis etc. These guys have been career mid carders at best and yet now they are getting not only the pushes but the air time. Its just silly. I want TNA to do well, I really do but Im not gonna be a TNA fan boy and sit here and take everything they shove down my throat and praise it like its a gift from God then bitch about how WWE fans are brainwashed. To be honest with you G2, I would like to see somebody else go for the TNA Title instead of AJ putting it back up against Angle. That match is so boring now that I would like to see Brian Kendrick get a rematch for the TNA X-Division Title & take it away from Amazing Red. He's a good wrestler don't get me wrong. But Kendrick can come up with a new move that no-one has ever seen him do before like he used to do when he was in WWE some years ago. Plus Morgan & Hernandez w/the TNA Tag Team belts, well they haven't teamed up for a long time like certain others & the British Invasion were jokes to begin with anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2010 1:43:25 GMT -5
It's not all bad, at the least the show still features some wrestling and not endless "comedy" segments. That's where you're wrong. Now that Hogan & Bischoff are running the show, they're just turning TNA into a damn circus & they're going back to the WcW/nWo days. This isn't no new change. It's just the same old boring bullturd that they did in WcW/nWo & TNA's going to go bankrupt. Trust me. Do you "got this"? Sorry, but a company that is making a profit won't be going bankrupt. It may not ever compete with RAW, but iMPACT! is still one of the ( if not THE ) highest rated shows on Spike TV. Also, I love how someone critiques you're opinion and it's "Think what you want, dude". However it's perfectly fine for you to tell someone their wrong? Plus, hate to tell you this... you know nothing more than any of the rest of us do. - Triple S
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