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Post by deskjet on Feb 6, 2010 20:32:02 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan responded to criticism that TNA's TV product currently looks like "WCW 2000" on last night's Rob Van Dam radio show by saying TNA management and Spike TV are trying to determine which wrestlers are ratings draws and which wrestlers have no drawing power. Hogan said they're "trying to find the bridge" in a so-called transition phase from the old, recognizable names to the new crop of stars by throwing as much against the wall to see what sticks on a minute-by-minute basis.ANALYSIS: LET'S THROW SHYT AGAINST THE WALL CAUSE I REALLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I"M DOING! "What we're doing is we've been at it about a month now and we're trying to make a transition. I didn't want to come in as the red and yellow Hulk Hogan doing the clown act. What I tried to do was basically bump the number," Hogan said in response to a caller who was critical of TNA bringing in old stars. "We're watching the show minute by minute. We see when A.J. Styles comes on, where it jams. We see where Scott Hall comes on, where it jams. We see where Hulk Hogan's on and it spikes. We're going through the learning process. What we need to do with these young guys is breathe life into the characters." Hogan continued: "We're throwing a bunch of stuff against the wall, seeing what spikes the needle minute by minute, and learning as we go along that some guys have no life at all and some guys have a lot of life. We're already maneuvering all the players around. You're going to see who we're going with more than others. You're going to see who we're really giving the super rocket up their rear end."ANAYSIS: WTF? Asked why he keeps putting himself on TV so much, Hogan played his "aw-shucks" self-deprecation card before basically saying he can't argue against the ratings jumping when he appears on-camera.ANALYSIS: LMAO "If I'm on the TV too much, I'm pulling myself off. I don't need to walk my crippled ass down that ramp," Hogan said. "I'm not about being on TV, but for some reason, the last four weeks when I've been coming out doing the transition stuff, the needle spiked a little bit."ANALYSIS: Ummmm, no! Hogan also defended TNA's direction against generalized criticism from hardcore wrestling fans who follow pro wrestling on the Internet or in wrestling newsletters, such as the Torch. Hogan again played the self-deprecation card that he hasn't been smartened up to the business, especially dealing with a TV network, so how could anyone question what they're doing in TNA. "All these people you call the smart marks and I've been in the business 30 years and I'm still a mark. I'm not smartened up yet, brother. All of a sudden, people are saying, 'Why are you doing this and why are you doing that?' Do the marks know about the network - what Kevin Kay and Brian Diamond at Spike are asking and demanding? There's a whole 'nother world out there that all these people have an opinion on who's on TV too much, but they don't know what's happening with the network. "I'm on a whole 'nother arena more than dealing with a finish or putting RVD on TV. The network might want RVD on TV less or more. They might want RVD on TV all the time or not at all. There's a lot of things that I'm having to deal with that I never had to deal with in the past. "This is a big universe and I'm listening to everyone. She (the caller critical of TNA's direction) makes a very valid point and believe me I don't want to be on TV all the time. I like to be in the back and think of stuff and listen to everyone's ideas. That's where I'm having fun. I think if I were to drop the leg again, I would never get up again." Hogan also gave an explanation for bringing in the Nasty Boys to TNA: "The Nasty Boys - I love them because I believe they can give 3D a run."ANALYSIS: Caldwell's Analysis: Nasty Boys and "run" aren't in the same sentence very often. Knobs was blown up just cutting his promo on Team 3D last week on Impact. See below for video evidence if you need a reminder. (To give TNA credit, though, they did a fine job selling the mass audience on a tag match that could be the trainwreck of the century.) Regarding Hogan's three-paragraph defense above, it's interesting to note his defense was that he has to deal with network-types who want to see specific numbers in the ratings. Hogan didn't have an answer for 'Why are you doing this and why are you doing that?' from a creative standpoint. He simply "shifted the focus" onto drawing sympathy for having to deal with suits at the network. Hogan is making it sound like they're going to live-and-die on the creative ideas thrown against the wall until they settle into a consistent pattern once they figure out who's worth keep on the roster and who needs to go Credit: PWTORCH Analysis by me ;D ---------------------------------------------------------
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 20:48:00 GMT -5
I don't see at any point where Hogan was talking out his ass. Watching where the ratings spike minute by minute is a great idea, that's how you know what people want to see.
Also the fact that he made very clear there is stuff that Spike TV wants to see, and thats what he has to go to, where's the talking out of the ass there?
The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling.
Hogan draws, he always has and always will. If he wouldn't have signed onto TNA and did a guest spot as Guest Host on Raw people would be going crazy for it.
Throwing things out there and seeing what works and what doesn't is what you're suppose to do, it adds variety and helps you see which way to go towards building the product.
Overall a VERY good interview with the Hulkster that gives a lot of insight into TNA
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Post by deskjet on Feb 6, 2010 20:57:53 GMT -5
I don't see at any point where Hogan was talking out his ass. Watching where the ratings spike minute by minute is a great idea, that's how you know what people want to see. Also the fact that he made very clear there is stuff that Spike TV wants to see, and thats what he has to go to, where's the talking out of the ass there? The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. Hogan draws, he always has and always will. If he wouldn't have signed onto TNA and did a guest spot as Guest Host on Raw people would be going crazy for it. Throwing things out there and seeing what works and what doesn't is what you're suppose to do, it adds variety and helps you see which way to go towards building the product. Overall a VERY good interview with the Hulkster that gives a lot of insight into TNA Hey, welcome back ...so i guess when the ratings spike for the womens matches that means put more women's wrestling on tv? Yeah, so let's have an all women's show. You actually think Spike cares or even knos what's going on in TNA...they only care about getting the ratings up and that's what they've entrusted Hogan to do...it's a cheap cop out. Yeah, 3d and Nasty Boys are stiff! Hogan draws in his mind...last week he drew a 1,2...down from 1.4. And i understand trying things that work, but let's not fix what's not broken which he seems to like to do. I think hogan can still do alot of good, but he needs to stop acting like he knows everything, admit when he's wrong once and awhile and make changes accordingly.
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Post by hbkmattelfan on Feb 6, 2010 20:59:49 GMT -5
I agree with every single thing Hulk said there.
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Post by downsyndrome on Feb 6, 2010 21:00:48 GMT -5
I don't see at any point where Hogan was talking out his ass. Watching where the ratings spike minute by minute is a great idea, that's how you know what people want to see. Also the fact that he made very clear there is stuff that Spike TV wants to see, and thats what he has to go to, where's the talking out of the ass there? The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. Hogan draws, he always has and always will. If he wouldn't have signed onto TNA and did a guest spot as Guest Host on Raw people would be going crazy for it. Throwing things out there and seeing what works and what doesn't is what you're suppose to do, it adds variety and helps you see which way to go towards building the product. Overall a VERY good interview with the Hulkster that gives a lot of insight into TNA Hogan is a draw as long has he has a power promotion machine backing him up. Hence why if Hogan was a guest host on raw people would tune in to see it more so because the WWE hypes it. Not because Hogan is a draw so much. The only thing Hogan made clear is that Spike wants more ratings. Any fan knows that needs to be done in TNA. Out with the old, in with the new the moderately new can stay as well. I do not need to see Nash, Flair, Xpac, and Scott Hall on my T.V screen nor do I want to see Val Venis. What I do want to see is Anderson, STyles Beer Money Orlando Jordan Amazing Red RVD( Hogan, RVD aint coming BROTHER) Team 3D VS the Nastys in a dream match? Are you smoking the ing ganja or are you drinking the Hogan Kool Aid? Who in their right frame of ing sane mind would want to see that crapfest? No real wrestling fan! Hogan thinks they could give 3=d a run for their money? RIIGGHHHHTTT.... if 3d had any money left, they really are getting stale.
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 21:01:53 GMT -5
Feel great to be back, though I needed the vacation I was on.
You actually think Spike TV don't care what's going on in TNA? They're footing most of the bill for Hogan and company. Most TV networks have input on what they want on the shows they air. Hell USA is notorious for this when it comes to RAW, with Bonnie Hunt actually sitting in on creative meetings and giving guidelines and bulletpoints she wants WWE to hit on Mondays.
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 21:06:58 GMT -5
I don't see at any point where Hogan was talking out his ass. Watching where the ratings spike minute by minute is a great idea, that's how you know what people want to see. Also the fact that he made very clear there is stuff that Spike TV wants to see, and thats what he has to go to, where's the talking out of the ass there? The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. Hogan draws, he always has and always will. If he wouldn't have signed onto TNA and did a guest spot as Guest Host on Raw people would be going crazy for it. Throwing things out there and seeing what works and what doesn't is what you're suppose to do, it adds variety and helps you see which way to go towards building the product. Overall a VERY good interview with the Hulkster that gives a lot of insight into TNA Hogan is a draw as long has he has a power promotion machine backing him up. Hence why if Hogan was a guest host on raw people would tune in to see it more so because the WWE hypes it. Not because Hogan is a draw so much. The only thing Hogan made clear is that Spike wants more ratings. Any fan knows that needs to be done in TNA. Out with the old, in with the new the moderately new can stay as well. I do not need to see Nash, Flair, Xpac, and Scott Hall on my T.V screen nor do I want to see Val Venis. What I do want to see is Anderson, STyles Beer Money Orlando Jordan Amazing Red RVD( Hogan, RVD aint coming BROTHER) Team 3D VS the Nastys in a dream match? Are you smoking the ing ganja or are you drinking the Hogan Kool Aid? Who in their right frame of ing sane mind would want to see that poop fest? No real wrestling fan! Hogan thinks they could give 3=d a run for their money? RIIGGHHHHTTT.... if 3d had any money left, they really are getting stale. So what's wrong with Flair being there? Has he been wrestling on every show, holding down the "young guys"? Nope, he's been doing something TNA couldn't do on there own and that's helping make AJ Styles a name in pro wrestling and not just a name to Indy Smarks. Have you not seen all the Nasty Boys shirts in the audience? Apparently there's still a market there. You honestly think after that interview RVD isn't coming to TNA? If you heard the whole interview RVD pretty much said he was without saying he was. So what do you want on the roster, a bunch of younger guys that have no one there to teach them the ins and outs? Who is going to turn into a wrestling show where they know NO one who is wrestling? Not many fans, ratings would be about .1
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Feb 6, 2010 21:09:35 GMT -5
I really don't like alot of the feuds and Nasty Boys/Val Venis shouldn't be on T.V. both are stale and out of shape. I don't mind Hogan on t.v. aslong as he isn't wrestling...
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Post by deskjet on Feb 6, 2010 21:37:15 GMT -5
Have you not seen all the Nasty Boys shirts in the audience? Apparently there's still a market there. They're called plants. Did you see all the Hogan shirts on 1/4? And you do know they tape about 3 shows, so unless those people are changing their clothes, your seeing the same shirst for 3 weeks. The nasty's arent over any thing but a buffet table.
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 21:42:34 GMT -5
Have you not seen all the Nasty Boys shirts in the audience? Apparently there's still a market there. They're called plants. Did you see all the Hogan shirts on 1/4? And you do know they tape about 3 shows, so unless those people are changing their clothes, your seeing the same shirst for 3 weeks. The nasty's arent over any thing but a buffet table. They don't tape 3 shows in one night, they are taped over a few days period. Yeah they bussed in fans for the 1/4 show, but there have been no reports of that happening since then, and do you think they would have Nasty Boy plants?
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Post by deskjet on Feb 6, 2010 21:47:33 GMT -5
They're called plants. Did you see all the Hogan shirts on 1/4? And you do know they tape about 3 shows, so unless those people are changing their clothes, your seeing the same shirst for 3 weeks. The nasty's arent over any thing but a buffet table. They don't tape 3 shows in one night, they are taped over a few days period. Yeah they bussed in fans for the 1/4 show, but there have been no reports of that happening since then, and do you think they would have Nasty Boy plants? OMG, seriously, 10 people outta 200 and you think the Nasty Boys are a draw
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Post by 1992 on Feb 6, 2010 22:00:25 GMT -5
The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. LOL Who in the blue hell has "dreamed" about that match? Hogan is a draw, people tune in to TNA to see him. He's doing plenty of good for TNA in terms of ratings, but this complete blind defense of EVERY SINGLE MOVE he makes is getting old and gimmicky. NOBODY wants to see that Nasty Boys. Nobody gives a **** about them. Their aren't "rating spikes" when these guys are on. Hogan CAN bring in lengends who draw. I know for fact people are tuning in just to see the nWo back together again, but nobody is going out of their way to see the ing Nasty Boys waddle around each week.
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 22:06:28 GMT -5
The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. LOL Who in the blue hell has "dreamed" about that match? Hogan is a draw, people tune in to TNA to see him. He's doing plenty of good for TNA in terms of ratings, but this complete blind defense of EVERY SINGLE MOVE he makes is getting old and gimmicky. NOBODY wants to see that Nasty Boys. Nobody gives a **** about them. Their aren't "rating spikes" when these guys are on. Hogan CAN bring in lengends who draw. I know for fact people are tuning in just to see the nWo back together again, but nobody is going out of their way to see the ing Nasty Boys waddle around each week. They're a big reason why I tune in every week. Are thye what they use to be in the ring? Hell no, but they're still damn entertaining, and they have a gimmick that has stood the test of time. Don't say no one goes out of there way to see the Nasties, because I for one do. I don't defend everything TNA does, when rumors circulated that they were going to sign Heidenreich I did not agree with that and let it be known. I think it was stupid to use Jeff Hardy on 1/4 when nothing else came of it. I don't "blindly" follow TNA, but I like a lot of what they're doing, sorry for being "gimmicky" though because I enjoy a promotion
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 6, 2010 22:58:42 GMT -5
Hi Hulk! Please riddle me this......if you are a big ratings bonanza, why is it the live Impact crowd wants to chant " Hulk Hogan" and then is being silenced by TNA management?! Thank you. Signed, Perplexed In Pennsyltucky
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 6, 2010 23:05:46 GMT -5
Hi Hulk! Please riddle me this......if you are a big ratings bonanza, why is it the live Impact crowd wants to chant " Hulk Hogan" and then is being silenced by TNA management?! Thank you. Signed, Perplexed In Pennsyltucky Because that crowd is too worried about looking smarky then actually trying to enjoy the show. They crapon EVERYTHING that happens in TNA, because it makes them the coolz
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 6, 2010 23:14:36 GMT -5
Hi Hulk! Please riddle me this......if you are a big ratings bonanza, why is it the live Impact crowd wants to chant " Hulk Hogan" and then is being silenced by TNA management?! Thank you. Signed, Perplexed In Pennsyltucky Because that crowd is too worried about looking smarky then actually trying to enjoy the show. They poop on EVERYTHING that happens in TNA, because it makes them the coolz Do you know any of the Impact crowd?! I do. They do try and act smart marks. No doubt. But THEY DO NOT POOP ON EVERYTHING! Complete opposite. They ing love all things TNA. Most of them are exact replicas of Soda Guy. They goto every Impact taping. They buy all things TNA merch. They pleasure themselves to photos of Don West. They cheer for Lance Hoyt. They do the Bentley Bounce. They chant this is awesome 38 times a night. They REALLY believe that Kurt Angle is the best wrestler on the planet. They love "The Muppet" Abyss. And they think the 6 sided ring was the greatest reinvention in pro wrestling. They poop on Hogan b/c smart marks arent stupid.....just annoying.
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Post by WFK on Feb 6, 2010 23:55:17 GMT -5
Because that crowd is too worried about looking smarky then actually trying to enjoy the show. They poop on EVERYTHING that happens in TNA, because it makes them the coolz Do you know any of the Impact crowd?! I do. They do try and act smart marks. No doubt. But THEY DO NOT POOP ON EVERYTHING! Complete opposite. They ing love all things TNA. Most of them are exact replicas of Soda Guy. They goto every Impact taping. They buy all things TNA merch. They pleasure themselves to photos of Don West. They cheer for Lance Hoyt. They do the Bentley Bounce. They chant this is awesome 38 times a night. They REALLY believe that Kurt Angle is the best wrestler on the planet. They love "The Muppet" Abyss. And they think the 6 sided ring was the greatest reinvention in pro wrestling. They poop on Hogan b/c smart marks arent stupid.....just annoying. With the way they act most of the time they could have fooled me.
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Feb 7, 2010 0:56:12 GMT -5
The Nasties and 3D is a dream match like it or not, these are two teams that defined stiff bad ass hardcore wrestling. LOL Who in the blue hell has "dreamed" about that match? Hogan is a draw, people tune in to TNA to see him. He's doing plenty of good for TNA in terms of ratings, but this complete blind defense of EVERY SINGLE MOVE he makes is getting old and gimmicky. NOBODY wants to see that Nasty Boys. Nobody gives a **** about them. Their aren't "rating spikes" when these guys are on. Hogan CAN bring in lengends who draw. I know for fact people are tuning in just to see the nWo back together again, but nobody is going out of their way to see the ing Nasty Boys waddle around each week. Nasties from WCW vs Team 3D from up to like 5 years ago? Id watch it. Nasties now vs 3D now? Ill pass. I agree with everyone in here, Nasty Boys need to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2010 0:56:26 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan's opinion on TNA > Desjet's opinion on TNA
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Post by SodaGuy on Feb 7, 2010 1:09:54 GMT -5
Because that crowd is too worried about looking smarky then actually trying to enjoy the show. They poop on EVERYTHING that happens in TNA, because it makes them the coolz Do you know any of the Impact crowd?! I do. They do try and act smart marks. No doubt. But THEY DO NOT POOP ON EVERYTHING! Complete opposite. They ing love all things TNA. Most of them are exact replicas of Soda Guy. They goto every Impact taping. They buy all things TNA merch. They pleasure themselves to photos of Don West. They cheer for Lance Hoyt. They do the Bentley Bounce. They chant this is awesome 38 times a night. They REALLY believe that Kurt Angle is the best wrestler on the planet. They love "The Muppet" Abyss. And they think the 6 sided ring was the greatest reinvention in pro wrestling. They poop on Hogan b/c smart marks arent stupid.....just annoying. Don't you EVER compare me to that abortion of a wrestling crowd. EVER. Ever.
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