Edgeacution
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Post by Edgeacution on Feb 10, 2010 14:26:32 GMT -5
From what I know about the situation was that there was supposed to be just one match where Hogan was to lose and HBK continue a Heel run but Hogan had creative control of some sort and pulled the "I dont want to lose card" making the match a one to one win. So HBK would win SummerSlam and Hogan winning at Mania. And at last minute at SummerSlam Hogan complained about knee/back problems where he was not going to be able to go on for very long in the match and wanted to just win this one with the option to lose at Mania. So when it was time to go out and wrestle both men were already upset so Vince told HBK to "just have fun out there tonight" so he oversold the match.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 10, 2010 14:51:30 GMT -5
the idea was to have 2 matches. the first hogan would go over, then HBK would go over in the second match. So they did the first match at Summerslam 2005, and HBK oversold like a little whiny bitch and hogan won that match. Then hogan decided to HBK and the second match. Hogan honestly did the right thing there. HBK many times in his career never wanted to job. Undertaker had to en threat HBK into jobbing to Austin at Wrestlemania 14. HBK never wanted to job to Bret Hart at WM 13, hence he got his knee surgery then. HBK deserved what he got from Hogan, Hogan was/is a living legend, so poo you HBK. Exactly. It just proved Shawn's still the whiny bitch, he's always been. Oh please, he's still a whiny bitch? Currently, who hasnt Shawn put over? Hell he even put over TNA's "future of sports entertainment" Anderson. Say what you want about him in the past but you cant say poop about him right now. He does what has to be done and makes whomever he puts over look great in the process.
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 10, 2010 15:00:06 GMT -5
He put over WWE's "future of sports entertainment" too. THE MIZ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 15:04:09 GMT -5
Fact is Shawn and Hogan have both been unwilling to job, but both have put over several men. But because Hogan is Hogan people bitch and claim he never jobs, and because Shawn is Shawn people claim it was the past and since he is so good in the ring it doesnt matter. As a Hulkamaniac Im willing to agree that Hogan is a prick most the time, but Shawn is mostly the same. Its bullcrapHogan gets so much crapyet Shawn gets a pass because of his ring ability. Neither man really had anything to gain in this match, and it was just a dream match. Who cares who won? Shawn could atleast have been professional about it.....
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Post by Bartman on Feb 10, 2010 16:07:34 GMT -5
the rematch was supposed to happen with Shawn going over, but Hogan lost his smile. it happens.
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CMPunkSavior
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Post by CMPunkSavior on Feb 10, 2010 16:31:50 GMT -5
I've shown that match to that music to a lot of people who don't watch wrestling or even hate it and they all love it and are completely entertained. Not really good for someone you are trying to get into wrestling but it is what it is.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Feb 10, 2010 16:34:03 GMT -5
Shawn was the bigger man to accept the fact he was going to lose wether he agreed with it or not, and be screwed over by Hogan.
But Shawn's retribution came by making Hogan look like an idiot with all the overselling.
If it doesnt make sense to anyone how that evens out then IDK what to say.
You got Hogan coming in for a month, and wanting to go over a veteran for no apparent reason, so in the end its just like "Youre going over? Fine, Ill do the job, but on my terms. You get yours, and I'll get mine."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 16:43:27 GMT -5
Shawn was the bigger man to accept the fact he was going to lose wether he agreed with it or not, and be screwed over by Hogan. But Shawn's retribution came by making Hogan look like an idiot with all the overselling. If it doesnt make sense to anyone how that evens out then IDK what to say. You got Hogan coming in for a month, and wanting to go over a veteran for no apparent reason, so in the end its just like "Youre going over? Fine, Ill do the job, but on my terms. You get yours, and I'll get mine." The bigger man? What he did was unprofessional. Yeah I can see being upset over what Hogan did, but you dont act like a ing child because of it. You would expect Shawn to be mature about it and do his damn job like a true veteran. But no, he had his feelings hurt. But wait, its Shawn Michaels and he gets a pass for being a prick.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 10, 2010 16:58:13 GMT -5
the idea was to have 2 matches. the first hogan would go over, then HBK would go over in the second match. So they did the first match at Summerslam 2005, and HBK oversold like a little whiny bitch and hogan won that match. Then hogan decided to HBK and the second match. Hogan honestly did the right thing there. HBK many times in his career never wanted to job. Undertaker had to en threat HBK into jobbing to Austin at Wrestlemania 14. HBK never wanted to job to Bret Hart at WM 13, hence he got his knee surgery then. HBK deserved what he got from Hogan, Hogan was/is a living legend, so poo you HBK. I cannot defend HBK for what he was like back in the 90s. However, Hogan has been like this since day 1 and continues to be so. Hogan is no legend. He killed his own career long ago.
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sevb30
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Post by sevb30 on Feb 10, 2010 17:05:03 GMT -5
Hogan jobbed to Kurt Angle, Brock Lesner and Undertaker, and the Rock if I am not mistaken?
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 10, 2010 17:28:02 GMT -5
Hogan jobbed to Kurt Angle, Brock Lesner and Undertaker, and the Rock if I am not mistaken? And how big were these guys? Shawn has put over guys who have never even seen the main event at that time...
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Post by leafs911 on Feb 11, 2010 13:09:21 GMT -5
hogan lost his smile, thats why he didnt want to do the second match
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Post by HugoOne on Feb 11, 2010 13:13:23 GMT -5
the idea was to have 2 matches. the first hogan would go over, then HBK would go over in the second match. So they did the first match at Summerslam 2005, and HBK oversold like a little whiny bitch and hogan won that match. Then hogan decided to HBK and the second match. Hogan honestly did the right thing there. HBK many times in his career never wanted to job. Undertaker had to en threat HBK into jobbing to Austin at Wrestlemania 14. HBK never wanted to job to Bret Hart at WM 13, hence he got his knee surgery then. HBK deserved what he got from Hogan, Hogan was/is a living legend, so poo you HBK. Two wrongs don't make a right. Michaels didn't back out of the match and he did the job. And yeah, he oversold, but he could have just as easily no sold everything instead. I'm not defending Michaels here, but Hogan shouldn't have backed out of the second match either. Show me one person Michaels refused to unreasonably put over since his return in 2002. Hell, they said they'd even give him the Championship at Wrestlemania 23 and he didn't want it.
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Post by K5 on Feb 11, 2010 15:06:56 GMT -5
that match, to me, proved shawn never changed.
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