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Post by indywrestling on Feb 23, 2010 12:08:51 GMT -5
I was watching the Horsemen dvd for liket he 100th time last night, and i as wondering what might have happend if Flair, Anderson, Blanchard and Windham would have been in the WWF at the same time and reformed the Horsemen there?? They were all there at 1 time or another, and just missed each other it seemed like.
Heres my opinion on what would have happend
Flair and Hogan would have battled for the belt, Horsmen would have interfered constantly for Flair, it would have eneded up being Flair and Hogan in the cage, and of course Hogan would have went over, (not my choice but it was wwf). But i would perfer Flair and Macho Man, they had some very memorable matches ill never forget
Arn and Tully would have had the WWF tag team titles (like they did) fueding with who ever at the time, I think the Rockers would have been champs fi they had stayed, they thought highly of them, which has been said by both Arn and Tully
Windham might have had a run with the IC title at one time or another, maybe a fued with Bret Hart or Piper, they would have been hell of matches
JJ with The Brain (not bad in my opinion), Heenan would have made a good manager for the Horsemen definalty, i think that would be WWFs way of changing anything for that matter
Survivor Series would have been unbeleivable, The Horseman v. Hogan, Savage, Piper, Hart or who ever, but putting the Horsemen in an 8 man tag would have been sweet especially the Survivor Series!!!
Whats your guys take on this??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 13:19:35 GMT -5
I don't think it would have been nearly as cool as you describe. The thing that made the early Horsemen work was that they were "the elite in pro wrestling," as they said. There's no way Vince would have booked them all to be main eventers at the same time, driving all the major story lines, etc. So it wouldn't have been the same. And of course WWF could have given Flair and Hogan a major program, but didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 18:31:36 GMT -5
I don't think it would have been nearly as cool as you describe. The thing that made the early Horsemen work was that they were "the elite in pro wrestling," as they said. There's no way Vince would have booked them all to be main eventers at the same time, driving all the major story lines, etc. So it wouldn't have been the same. And of course WWF could have given Flair and Hogan a major program, but didn't. I agree, the main thing that seemed to separate JCP/NWA and the then WWF was the in-ring action, as the Horsemen stepped it up in all facets, as they truly were the elite in their respective promotion. The very fact that Hogan and Flair were in the WWE in '91 when even Triple H on that DVD said 'I don't think WWE knew how big this was' sums it up perfectly, 'cos they didn't. Fantasy-wise, it would have been great, but I think because they weren't 'homegrown' they eventually would be de-pushed for the other talent coming through like Bret, Perfect, etc. |
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Post by STING on Feb 24, 2010 1:33:56 GMT -5
They would not have been a good fit at all. Look no further than what Vince did to Tully and Arn when they came in. The WWF back then was more about a "cartoonish" feel. The Horsemen were more about just playing dirty and hurting someone. The NWA/WCW were more their cup of tea.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 24, 2010 19:48:57 GMT -5
Honestly, this is gonna sound weird, but to me what made the Horsemen work were guys like Dusty Rhodes, Magnum TA and Ricky Morton. Look as it this way, lets put the Horsemen in the WWE. Do you think you would ever see them chase, attack and break the arm of Hogan in a parking lot? Do you think Hogans ego would have even allowed it? What about Savage or Hart? Think they would have been being "beat up" in the locker room, having their face rubbed in the concrete? Sure guys like Rhodes and Morton got "even" in the ring but the thing that was special about NWA is that egos were usually set to the side for the better of the company. If Flair needed to drop the belt he did. (Rhodes, Garvin both had reigns).
Also by the time they would all have gotten there (late 80s early 90s) Hulkamania was such a huge thing that there would be no way Vince would let that get buried. If the Horsemen would have started out in 84 in WWF then yea he might have pushed Flair over a Hogan type but Hulkamania was such a huge thing that not even the Horsemen were gonna get over on it. To me it would have turned out much like the Heenan family. Guys like Rude, Hennig, Andre, Studd...all have the talent and big names to match up with the Horsemen and Hogan dropped all of them
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Feb 25, 2010 0:44:41 GMT -5
I don't think it would have been nearly as cool as you describe. The thing that made the early Horsemen work was that they were "the elite in pro wrestling," as they said. There's no way Vince would have booked them all to be main eventers at the same time, driving all the major story lines, etc. So it wouldn't have been the same. And of course WWF could have given Flair and Hogan a major program, but didn't. I agree, the main thing that seemed to separate JCP/NWA and the then WWF was the in-ring action, as the Horsemen stepped it up in all facets, as they truly were the elite in their respective promotion. The very fact that Hogan and Flair were in the WWE in '91 when even Triple H on that DVD said 'I don't think WWE knew how big this was' sums it up perfectly, 'cos they didn't. Fantasy-wise, it would have been great, but I think because they weren't 'homegrown' they eventually would be de-pushed for the other talent coming through like Bret, Perfect, etc. It wasn't that they didn't know, it was that Hogan wanted to take time off and Convinced them a feud with Sid would be better... Which it was, but only because we got the Flair/Savage feud. A big program with Hogan and Flair in WWE would have rocked though. |
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Post by roth630 on Feb 26, 2010 12:15:46 GMT -5
It would have sunked. Who would the Horsemen feud against? The WWF was still a cartoon back then. Could you imagine the Horsemen trying to have a match say against the Nasty Boys and Jim Duggan? And the egos of Hogan and Savage and Hart would prevent a good team there. If the Horsemen would have gone into the WWF you would have seen them broken up. Much like what they tried to do with The Freebirds.
The Horsemen were tailor made for NWA and WCW. They were real wrestlers, they looked like real wrestlers, the acted like real wrestlers, they were the perfect heels. Having them in the cartoon land of WWF? it just wouldn't have looked right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 17:20:32 GMT -5
cant imagine it really.......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 15:26:49 GMT -5
We had our own version with Evolution.
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Post by carly1988 on Mar 4, 2010 8:46:56 GMT -5
We had our own version with Evolution. The time periods are way different but honestly I dont think its even fair to compare the two. Ric Flair was one of if not the top guy in wrestling back when wrestling meant something. Tully Blanchard was the second biggest heel in the company and I would argue in the top 5 of the biggest heels in the sport at the time. Arn and Ole were one of the top tag teams and is often regarded as one of, if not the best of all time. Triple H was at the height of his game but in an industry that basically only had 1 big time promotion. Flair was beyond past his prime. Orton and Batista were future stars in the making but both still very green in the ring. They werent the biggest names on the roster but more just good buddies with the top guy. Yes, they later developed into future world champions but while in Evolution their status wasnt nearly as high as that of guys like Blanchard, Arn and Ole |
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