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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Feb 26, 2010 15:00:14 GMT -5
It only annoys me when people say wrestlers can't wrestle even when the wrestlers can wrestle, even if they don't wrestle the way the IWC wants them to wrestle. Wrestlers have different styles in which they wrestle and there are different ways to judge a wrestler's wrestling ability. A popular example. John Cena is not a great technical wrestler. but he has proven to be able to put on a great wrestling show in big money wrestling matches. He just doesn't wrestle like Bret Hart. Wrestling is a varied event, and if everyone wrestles the same style wrestling gets boring. Wrestles who I would say can't wrestle are ones who literally can't do much (Khali) or gus who get hurt or hurt others when they wrestle (Ahmed Johnson). I love wrestling and some of my favorite wrestles have not been the best technical wrestlers, but all had something special about them. So when someone says that a wrestler can't wrestle, sometimes you have to look at it that way. If a wrestler can get the crowd into it and is safe in the ring, what more do they need? Who has the record now?  |
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 26, 2010 15:03:14 GMT -5
lol i counted 26
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Feb 26, 2010 15:15:04 GMT -5
Did you count the W in IWC? |
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Post by ReDxEnEmY718 on Feb 26, 2010 15:31:52 GMT -5
I personally hate it when the statement is said about wrestlers that actually CAN wrestle. When it's said about wrestlers who can't wrestle, I say right the fck on! lol when something is true, I naturally tend to agree with it. There's nothing wrong with that. Kelly Kelly is someone that can't wrestle but then again, there's no expectations from fans for her to be Bret Hart status so she's excusable. I naturally tune out for divas action anyways since it's never all that entertaining except for the off-chance that you get to see ass or cleavage shots. lol Wrestlers like John Cena I feel can't wrestle because his move range isn't all that varied. Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Carlito, Matt Hardy, Rob Van Dam, etc... these wrestlers have a wider variety of movesets than Cena. Saying Cena can't wrestle may be a bit strong, a more accurate statement would be, "he's not as great a wrestler as ______" or "he's a limited moveset-type wrestler." If you want to get technical, that's probably the best way to describe it. The Great Khali obviously can't wrestle, Vampiro can't wrestle (watch a few botchamanias with him in it, the guy is fcking terrible).
Basically a lot of the big men in the WWE with the limited movesets, I consider them bad wrestlers. It would be strong for me to say they can't wrestle PERIOD but I can definitely say that most big men in the WWE right now with the limited movesets, I consider them to be bad wrestlers.
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 26, 2010 15:38:20 GMT -5
Did you count the W in IWC? I did not. 27. |
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Post by wabarrett on Feb 26, 2010 15:48:54 GMT -5
It only annoys me when people say wrestlers can't wrestle even when the wrestlers can wrestle, even if they don't wrestle the way the IWC wants them to wrestle. Wrestlers have different styles in which they wrestle and there are different ways to judge a wrestler's wrestling ability. A popular example. John Cena is not a great technical wrestler. but he has proven to be able to put on a great wrestling show in big money wrestling matches. He just doesn't wrestle like Bret Hart. Wrestling is a varied event, and if everyone wrestles the same style wrestling gets boring. Wrestles who I would say can't wrestle are ones who literally can't do much (Khali) or guys who get hurt or hurt others when they wrestle (Ahmed Johnson). I love wrestling and some of my favorite wrestlers have not been the best technical wrestlers, but all had something special about them. So when someone says that a wrestler can't wrestle, sometimes you have to look at it that way. If a wrestler can get the crowd into it and is safe in the ring, what more do they need? Who has the record now? Thank you. I don't need to type all this now. I agree 100%. One hundred percent. |
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Post by sicknicholas on Feb 26, 2010 17:07:20 GMT -5
Well , if you can't wrestle , you better an amazing mic skills and a great gimmick in order to be a top stop star , in my eyes .  |
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Post by sicknicholas on Feb 26, 2010 17:09:17 GMT -5
I personally hate it when the statement is said about wrestlers that actually CAN wrestle. When it's said about wrestlers who can't wrestle, I say right the fck on! lol when something is true, I naturally tend to agree with it. There's nothing wrong with that. Kelly Kelly is someone that can't wrestle but then again, there's no expectations from fans for her to be Bret Hart status so she's excusable. I naturally tune out for divas action anyways since it's never all that entertaining except for the off-chance that you get to see ass or cleavage shots. lol Wrestlers like John Cena I feel can't wrestle because his move range isn't all that varied. Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Carlito, Matt Hardy, Rob Van Dam, etc... these wrestlers have a wider variety of movesets than Cena. Saying Cena can't wrestle may be a bit strong, a more accurate statement would be, "he's not as great a wrestler as ______" or "he's a limited moveset-type wrestler." If you want to get technical, that's probably the best way to describe it. The Great Khali obviously can't wrestle, Vampiro can't wrestle (watch a few botchamanias with him in it, the guy is fcking terrible). Basically a lot of the big men in the WWE with the limited movesets, I consider them bad wrestlers. It would be strong for me to say they can't wrestle PERIOD but I can definitely say that most big men in the WWE right now with the limited movesets, I consider them to be bad wrestlers. blasphemy  ing Blasphemy |
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Post by Stevo on Feb 26, 2010 17:21:02 GMT -5
I agree with Khali, but Kelly can wrestle. Just not very well. That's like saying a doctor can do surgery.........just not very well. Well, let's be glad Kelly's not a surgeon.   |
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Post by jfinnomore on Feb 26, 2010 17:49:49 GMT -5
Well , if you can't wrestle , you better an amazing mic skills and a great gimmick in order to be a top stop star , in my eyes . warrior had amazing mic skills? |
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Post by ECFS on Feb 26, 2010 18:01:14 GMT -5
some people who cant wrestle are there because of size, or sex appeal (i.e. divas)
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 26, 2010 18:03:52 GMT -5
warrior had amazing mic skills? He didn't have to. His charisma was unmatched. All he had to do was flex his muscles and dry heave into the mic for 2 minutes while occasionally speaking a word or two to get his point across. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 26, 2010 18:52:20 GMT -5
warrior had amazing mic skills? He didn't have to. His charisma was unmatched. All he had to do was flex his muscles and dry heave into the mic for 2 minutes while occasionally speaking a word or two to get his point across. Or going a shpiel that made no sense at all for minutes at a time. |
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Post by Sam Hain on Feb 26, 2010 18:52:28 GMT -5
Damn, I thought this was the official John Cena thread!
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Post by mikehawk on Feb 26, 2010 18:56:01 GMT -5
Damn, I thought this was the official John Cena thread! |
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Post by Sam Hain on Feb 26, 2010 18:57:50 GMT -5
Wow, that Warrior promo is awesome! Totally memorizing that and using it next time a job interview starts to go bad!
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Post by Sam Hain on Feb 26, 2010 18:58:45 GMT -5
Damn, I thought this was the official John Cena thread! Thank you! Eat your heart out, Conan! |
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Feb 26, 2010 19:01:22 GMT -5
Might I add... wrestle.
Learn how to speak, guy.
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Post by orpheous on Feb 26, 2010 19:01:29 GMT -5
He didn't have to. His charisma was unmatched. All he had to do was flex his muscles and dry heave into the mic for 2 minutes while occasionally speaking a word or two to get his point across. Or going a shpiel that made no sense at all for minutes at a time. lol warrior was WHACKED out!!! lol |
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Feb 26, 2010 19:04:57 GMT -5
Thought this would be about John Cena... ...it's not  |
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