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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 18:56:28 GMT -5
I don't get what the problem is with Orton being granted the no.1 contender-ship to Jack Swagger's World title. I know, I know, Orton is a RAW superstar, Swagger is now a SmackDown superstar and SmackDown's champion. But come on, that hasn't mattered for years... Batista is over on RAW challenging for John Cena's WWE title, there's no big fuss about that? As for Edge and Jericho... they had their chance, in a match for the no.1 contender-ship, and guess what? The match ended in a double count-out, meaning both men have failed to earn a shot. End of. Orton has also beaten Swagger two weeks in a row, and who knows. Maybe Teddy Long has allowed this match between Orton and Swagger to happen? He knows full well, if Orton wins the World title, he becomes a SmackDown superstar. He's not losing out. Read that carefully people and tell me what the big problem is, other than 'Oh no! My favorite superstar has not gotten the push I wanted him to get and if he's not champion then WWE's booking is bad!!11one.' Oh, and what's more... there is a good chance Edge and Jericho can settle their rivalry in a separate match at Extreme Rules, perhaps even a match for the no.1 contender-ship! Oh my! It'll be a good Match, but Batista was Champion because of Vince McMahon directly. Vince allowed Batista to hop from RAW to SmackDown for helping him with Bret Hart. Randy Orton is a RAW Superstar, who has done nothing with a high-up to give him clearance to hop from show-to-show weekly. Swagger's a SmackDown Superstar who hasn't crossed brnad lines to face Ortron. The idea that a RAW Superstar just gets a SmackDown-brand Title shot because he beat him while Swagger was on RAW is stupid. Finally someone who actually watches the shows and makes sense. The ignorance I have been reading is mind boggling.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Apr 13, 2010 18:56:51 GMT -5
I think Swagger's going to win at Extreme Rules, only for Orton to be Drafted to SmackDown the next night, much to the dismay of a banged up Jack SWAGGAH.
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Post by thegenius on Apr 13, 2010 19:18:43 GMT -5
Well, you would be pretty dumb to say that considering MVP is actually winning on Superstars. But yeah. And it's not my fault you're butthurt over it, maybe if you didn't know it was true, deep down, you wouldn't be so offended. Swagger keeping the belt warm for Orton? Is that a fact? Because it hasn't happened yet and I'm sure Swagger will be walking out as champ, making you and your facts look irrelevent. Trust me, I got this. * Ted DiBiase comes out to a mixed reaction with the Million Dollar belt. MVP interrupts his heel promo and says he's going to punch him in the face and no one cares about his past. Ted DiBiase ends up hitting Dream Street to pickup the win. That's from the Superstars spoilers this week. MVP, jobbing on Superstars. Athankyou. (Infact, when was the last time MVP was on Raw?) Yeah, Jericho was a paper champ in 2002 to HHH and in 2008 to Cena. But his latest run was far from that. Who was he a paper champ to? Swagger? Puh-lease, give me a break. The only reason you keep calling Jericho out of everyone a "paper champion" is because you dislike him, and almost everybody else loves him, so you feel you have to be different from the crowd. Give it a rest boy. Your schtick is getting old. Was Sheamus a paper champion? Of course not, because you like him. Will Swagger be a paper champion? Only time will tell. I'm sure if Swagger does lose the belt to Orton you'll still insist Swagger had a great reign and that Orton & Cena are using their "backstage powers" to screw over your favourites. Um... spoilers much? I didn't want to read, nor see that. Sheamus wasn't a paper champion because he beat the guy he lost it to. Where-as Jericho beat Rock and Austin and lost it to a returning Triple H. The next time he beat Batista and lost it to a returning John Cena, the next time he beat Undertaker and lost it to a newly drafted Jack Swagger. Basically, he's a belt warmer, and that's ironic considering his daddy was a bench-warmer. But let's not get into that. I'm not trying to be different, or trying to get underneath anybody's skin. I'm sorry to tell you this... and it may shock your world, but not everybody loves Chris Jericho. And if that person who doesn't comes along and says so, it doesn't mean he's trying to get your panties in a bunch.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 13, 2010 19:21:26 GMT -5
* Ted DiBiase comes out to a mixed reaction with the Million Dollar belt. MVP interrupts his heel promo and says he's going to punch him in the face and no one cares about his past. Ted DiBiase ends up hitting Dream Street to pickup the win. That's from the Superstars spoilers this week. MVP, jobbing on Superstars. Athankyou. (Infact, when was the last time MVP was on Raw?) Yeah, Jericho was a paper champ in 2002 to HHH and in 2008 to Cena. But his latest run was far from that. Who was he a paper champ to? Swagger? Puh-lease, give me a break. The only reason you keep calling Jericho out of everyone a "paper champion" is because you dislike him, and almost everybody else loves him, so you feel you have to be different from the crowd. Give it a rest boy. Your schtick is getting old. Was Sheamus a paper champion? Of course not, because you like him. Will Swagger be a paper champion? Only time will tell. I'm sure if Swagger does lose the belt to Orton you'll still insist Swagger had a great reign and that Orton & Cena are using their "backstage powers" to screw over your favourites. Um... spoilers much? I didn't want to read, nor see that. Sheamus wasn't a paper champion because he beat the guy he lost it to. Where-as Jericho beat Rock and Austin and lost it to a returning Triple H. The next time he beat Batista and lost it to a returning John Cena, the next time he beat Undertaker and lost it to a newly drafted Jack Swagger. Basically, he's a belt warmer, and that's ironic considering his daddy was a bench-warmer. But let's not get into that. I'm not trying to be different, or trying to get underneath anybody's skin. I'm sorry to tell you this... and it may shock your world, but not everybody loves Chris Jericho. And if that person who doesn't comes along and says so, it doesn't mean he's trying to get your panties in a bunch. So is Chris Jericho your least favourite wrestler on the roster? How about John Cena? Either way, it seems most of your threads are either figuratively sucking MVP & Jack Swagger's collective dicks, or bashing Chris Jericho & John Cena. Don't you have any other thoughts on anything else apart from those four people? Oh, I almost forgot The Hart Dynasty and of course Kennedy, sorry, Anderson.
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Post by rkokixas on Apr 13, 2010 19:30:17 GMT -5
Back to the subject at hand,Cam,to answer your question about who will be the "top guy" sent to Smackdown,I dont know.Maybe HHH again?Maybe there wont be a "top guy" from Raw sent this year?Maybe it'll be Smackdown to lose a few like Jericho and/or Edge?They couldve sent Orton to Smackdown many times(hes been on Raw since '06)and they haven't.
I just think Orton,no matter what,wont be sent to Smackdown as it seen in less homes and since Raw is Vince's 'baby" he wants his 2 top homegrown guys(Orton and Cena)on that show.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 13, 2010 19:32:56 GMT -5
Back to the subject at hand,Cam,to answer your question about who will be the "top guy" sent to Smackdown,I dont know.Maybe HHH again?Maybe there wont be a "top guy" from Raw sent this year?Maybe it'll be Smackdown to lose a few like Jericho and/or Edge?They couldve sent Orton to Smackdown many times(hes been on Raw since '06)and they haven't. I just think Orton,no matter what,wont be sent to Smackdown as it seen in less homes and since Raw is Vince's 'baby" he wants his 2 top homegrown guys(Orton and Cena)on that show. Orton probably hasn't been sent to SmackDown since 2006 because he's still had feuds to do on Raw. But now not only has he done them, they've been done to death. Cena/Orton - DONE. Orton/HHH - DONE. Orton/Batista - DONE. I just think Orton going to SmackDown is the most sensible and realistic move.
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Post by rkokixas on Apr 13, 2010 20:12:53 GMT -5
I guess we'll have to wait and see Cam.I guess we'll see after E.R. because if he wins he'll go to Smackdown but if he loses(and I think he will by Cody interference)he probably will stay on Raw.
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Post by extreme on Apr 13, 2010 20:45:49 GMT -5
I maybe out of the loop here but doesn't Jericho have a rematch clause for the WHC? Or was it already used? sorry I haven't watched SD in a while.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Apr 13, 2010 20:50:57 GMT -5
I maybe out of the loop here but doesn't Jericho have a rematch clause for the WHC? Or was it already used? sorry I haven't watched SD in a while. Teddy Long offered Jericho his Rematch clause the night he lost the Belt to Swagger, but because Jericho was hurt, he didn't accept. Teddy then put the Title shot up in a Match against Jericho and Edge last Friday, which was a No Contest. So T-Lo took Jericho's Title Rematch, which doesn't seem fair, but then again neither is the RAW Guest Host booking a SmackDown-brand Title Match.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2010 20:58:29 GMT -5
No one wants to see a bald CM Punk!
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Apr 13, 2010 21:58:19 GMT -5
KFC is sponsoring the PPV...I have my fingers crossed for a "Double Down on a Pole."
Still not quite sure if the guy who eats the sandwich is the winner or the loser.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 22:25:37 GMT -5
KFC is sponsoring the PPV...I have my fingers crossed for a "Double Down on a Pole." Still not quite sure if the guy who eats the sandwich is the winner or the loser. Double Downs look awesome! ;D
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Post by thegenius on Apr 13, 2010 22:34:37 GMT -5
Um... spoilers much? I didn't want to read, nor see that. Sheamus wasn't a paper champion because he beat the guy he lost it to. Where-as Jericho beat Rock and Austin and lost it to a returning Triple H. The next time he beat Batista and lost it to a returning John Cena, the next time he beat Undertaker and lost it to a newly drafted Jack Swagger. Basically, he's a belt warmer, and that's ironic considering his daddy was a bench-warmer. But let's not get into that. I'm not trying to be different, or trying to get underneath anybody's skin. I'm sorry to tell you this... and it may shock your world, but not everybody loves Chris Jericho. And if that person who doesn't comes along and says so, it doesn't mean he's trying to get your panties in a bunch. So is Chris Jericho your least favourite wrestler on the roster? How about John Cena? Either way, it seems most of your threads are either figuratively sucking MVP & Jack Swagger's collective dicks, or bashing Chris Jericho & John Cena. Don't you have any other thoughts on anything else apart from those four people? Oh, I almost forgot The Hart Dynasty and of course Kennedy, sorry, Anderson. No, John Cena is my least favourite wrestler on the roster by a clear mile. Jericho is atleast good in the ring but I'm not going to sit here and act like the guy gets the belt just to get it. He gets it to keep it warm for everybody else and I'm not even biased about it. I'm talking about this with a Jericho mark, of course you'll say it's wrong. I'm not a Jericho mark or a hater. I don't agree with the love he gets and I think he's really stale at the moment, period. You just mentioned all of my favourite wrestlers, and you're basically asking me to like somebody new. I like Sheamus and The Miz, there. As for the top guy sent to SD, there will be no top guy. Edge will remain the face of Smackdown with the Undertaker when he's there. That's the way it's been for almost 3 years now. Jeff Hardy too when he was there... I think they will send Sheamus to SD for Jericho. Bourne to SD for McIntyre. MVP to SD for R-Truth and Big Show to SD for CM Punk. Raw wins the Battle Royal so they get the Hart Dynasty. Plus SD got Jack Swagger, so that seems fair enough.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 22:49:13 GMT -5
So is Chris Jericho your least favourite wrestler on the roster? How about John Cena? Either way, it seems most of your threads are either figuratively sucking MVP & Jack Swagger's collective dicks, or bashing Chris Jericho & John Cena. Don't you have any other thoughts on anything else apart from those four people? Oh, I almost forgot The Hart Dynasty and of course Kennedy, sorry, Anderson. No, John Cena is my least favourite wrestler on the roster by a clear mile. Jericho is atleast good in the ring but I'm not going to sit here and act like the guy gets the belt just to get it. He gets it to keep it warm for everybody else and I'm not even biased about it. I'm talking about this with a Jericho mark, of course you'll say it's wrong. I'm not a Jericho mark or a hater. I don't agree with the love he gets and I think he's really stale at the moment, period. You just mentioned all of my favourite wrestlers, and you're basically asking me to like somebody new. I like Sheamus and The Miz, there. As for the top guy sent to SD, there will be no top guy. Edge will remain the face of Smackdown with the Undertaker when he's there. That's the way it's been for almost 3 years now. Jeff Hardy too when he was there... I think they will send Sheamus to SD for Jericho. Bourne to SD for McIntyre. MVP to SD for R-Truth and Big Show to SD for CM Punk. Raw wins the Battle Royal so they get the Hart Dynasty. Plus SD got Jack Swagger, so that seems fair enough. I do think McIntyre will move to Raw, while Miz drops the US title to someone....perhaps Kofi, who is Smackdown bound.
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Post by The Best in the World on Apr 13, 2010 23:14:40 GMT -5
So why is this PPV even called Extreme Rules? The Worls Title Match has no stip. Maybe they will announce one but still, they should have done it earlier.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Apr 13, 2010 23:53:54 GMT -5
So why is this PPV even called Extreme Rules? The Worls Title Match has no stip. Maybe they will announce one but still, they should have done it earlier. The World Title Match does have a stip; it was announced on RAW. It's an Extreme Rules Match.
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Post by wabarrett on Apr 14, 2010 6:00:12 GMT -5
It'll be a good Match, but Batista was Champion because of Vince McMahon directly. Vince allowed Batista to hop from RAW to SmackDown for helping him with Bret Hart. Randy Orton is a RAW Superstar, who has done nothing with a high-up to give him clearance to hop from show-to-show weekly. Swagger's a SmackDown Superstar who hasn't crossed brand lines to face Orton. The idea that a RAW Superstar just gets a SmackDown-brand Title shot because he beat him while Swagger was on RAW is stupid. Finally someone who actually watches the shows and makes sense. The ignorance I have been reading is mind boggling. Umm, Orton hasn't hopped from show to show. Swagger was having his final match(es) as a RAW superstar when he faced Orton, two weeks in a row and lost. Edge and Jericho both FAILED to earn a title shot because of their PERSONAL ISSUES getting in the way. Teddy Long is probably happy for Orton to face Swagger, because he knows full well if Orton wins, he becomes a SmackDown superstar. This allows Edge and Jericho to continue what is becoming a very personal rivalry. I don't see the problem, I really don't. I'll agree that this makes brands pretty much pointless, but this has been the case for a long while now anyway. The Hart Dynasty are on RAW all the time now, Batista has been in a feud with a RAW superstar, ON RAW every week for the last two months.
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Post by rkokixas on Apr 14, 2010 9:49:14 GMT -5
Exactly,in kayfabe storyline terms,if you was Teddy Long would you rather have Orton or Swagger on your show as your champ?Edge or Jericho COMBINED arent as popular as Orton is now.
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Post by missedgehead on Apr 14, 2010 10:15:52 GMT -5
Exactly,in kayfabe storyline terms,if you was Teddy Long would you rather have Orton or Swagger on your show as your champ?Edge or Jericho COMBINED arent as popular as Orton is now. Why in the hell do you always have to take shots at both Edge and Jericho, dude? What the hell is your freaking problem? What, are you jealous that they are better wrestlers than Orton? ARe you jealous they are both better LOOKING than Orton? What, are you upset that during their run as Team Rated RKO Edge carried ORton's butt? Jealous because the IWC like both Jericho and Edge better than Orton? Upset that both guys don't have reps as trouble makers? Come on. Grow up already and leave these guys alone already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2010 11:13:04 GMT -5
Exactly,in kayfabe storyline terms,if you was Teddy Long would you rather have Orton or Swagger on your show as your champ?Edge or Jericho COMBINED arent as popular as Orton is now. Why in the hell do you always have to take shots at both Edge and Jericho, dude? What the hell is your freaking problem? What, are you jealous that they are better wrestlers than Orton? ARe you jealous they are both better LOOKING than Orton? What, are you upset that during their run as Team Rated RKO Edge carried ORton's butt? Jealous because the IWC like both Jericho and Edge better than Orton? Upset that both guys don't have reps as trouble makers? Come on. Grow up already and leave these guys alone already. I love Edge and all, he's my joint-favourite, but christ almighty, you take any slightly off comment about him way too personally. Chill out a little.
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