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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2010 23:23:17 GMT -5
iMPACT! was downright awful, tonight. I'd honestly have to say the only good angles they have going right now, is this Brother Ray/Jesse Neal one.
TNA seemed very rushed and indy-like, tonight. Hardy's music hitting entirely too early, where it made it a little awkward, for instance.
The Top 10 is clearly a slap in the face of TNA fans... "Hey, thanks for wasting your time voting! Here's who we were going to pick, anyway." I mean, seriously, Sting at the top? Ugh. When will TNA realize that fans want to see young and up and coming talent? I mean, guys like Angle and Van Dam who can still work a match are fine. Guys like Sting, Nash, Hall, Jarrett... they need to go. It's a joke that Rob Terry is ahead of Samoa Joe, simple as that. And now you add Kazarian, for shits and giggles? Again, very indy-like.
Sting/RVD is going to be a terrible match at Slammiversary and going by the build-up of any Sting angle, right now... that'll also be the same and terrible. Sting doesn't have any answers, attacks ____ with a baseball bat and repeat.
Not much mention or build-up of MCMG being the #1 Contenders for the Outsiders titles, if any at all. Instead, they are tossed in a match that had a predictable winner, to start off with.
Again, this Neal/Ray story is the only good thing going on in TNA, right now. Perfect build-up and these two are really adding emotion to it. Also the Moore/Young match was good and solid, for a simple iMPACT! match. Really showed how well these young guys can work a match. Both Young and Moore sold each move greatly and it was a crisp, clean match. That Piledriver also looked great, with Moore's selling job.
Lethal's promo is the reason they gave the "kid" an impersonation gimmick. He has a terrible voice and sounds like a 13 year old kid. Love that he's Jay Lethal again, but he needs improvement on his mic work.
Simply put, if TNA's trying to sell me on Slammiversary... they've already failed with having Sting and Van Dam face off, one-on-one. Sorry, I'm a fan of two guys that can put on a Main Event quality match.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 20, 2010 23:52:02 GMT -5
I don't get your point about the ranking system.. it was the same rules as it has been from the start.It's off fan votes and the committee.. they said that from day one.
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Post by Sam Hain on May 21, 2010 1:18:47 GMT -5
I missed bits of TNA tonight, but overall was not impressed with the show. Granted it is way better than it was a few months back, but there is just still something lacking.
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Post by deskjet on May 21, 2010 4:23:42 GMT -5
As i rewatched some of the show I found it very talk heavy, again. They obviously are doing this to set up storylines so it didnt bother me that much. Angle, Ink Ink storyline are intriguing. Not exactly sure why you let Madison get beat straight up by Roxxi unless they plan on pusihing Roxxi, which I doubt. The band, including EY need to never be on a wrestling tv show again. As i said the Kaz/Flair thing has some potential but not sure why flair needs to mentor someone else when he's supposedly working with AJ. I;m fine with Sting/RVD althought I dont think it should headline Slammiversary but at least they are giving it sufficiant time to build...hopefully. NOt sure how mcuh Sting will be into it since he's more focused on the Sith's. When Bish/Hogan do execute order 66 I'm sure sting will be built as the hero to save the day, but honestly, this storyline needs to be well planned out or it'll flop. Whatever they are doing with Anderson needs to stop and they just need to let him be a straight up heel instead of having him put up a front. The top ten ranking, while interesting, is not exactly something I care to see in wrestling..the criteria is a bit convoluted and I'm not sure if this is something they plan on doing every week, month? So when Sting loses he should drop to number 10 or is he outta the polls? Is the same criteria established for getting back into the polls? Anyone catch Bischoff say TNA entertainment? Made me cringe a bit as I'm sure it did with Sting. TNA was decent tonight, but I still think they are trying to do too much.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 13:38:08 GMT -5
Oh, I'm aware. It wasn't a shocker of the way the Top 10 was done, just still pissed over it. Fans votes didn't mean crap. Yes, it kept guys like Rhino and Brother Devon out of the ranks. However, it was clear that the fans want Wolfe in the Main Event picture, not getting beat up by a wounded Abyss. It's a damn joke, really.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 21, 2010 15:29:57 GMT -5
Oh, I'm aware. It wasn't a shocker of the way the Top 10 was done, just still pissed over it. Fans votes didn't mean crap. Yes, it kept guys like Rhino and Brother Devon out of the ranks. However, it was clear that the fans want Wolfe in the Main Event picture, not getting beat up by a wounded Abyss. It's a damn joke, really. - Triple S But, Wolfe wouldn't be near the top of the ranks in TNA when you factor in W/L and Championships in TNA. He's won maybe 3 matches in TNA this year alone.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 16:11:58 GMT -5
I'm not saying TNA lied or anything, point I'm trying to make is that it should've been simply based on what the FANS want. People like Rhino, Devon, Terry... shouldn't have even been eligible to vote for.
If the voting would've went the way the fans wanted, Wolfe would have been #1 Contender. Clear as day that that poll was rigged and changed days before Sacrifice.
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Post by deskjet on May 21, 2010 16:19:42 GMT -5
I'm not saying TNA lied or anything, point I'm trying to make is that it should've been simply based on what the FANS want. People like Rhino, Devon, Terry... shouldn't have even been eligible to vote for. If the voting would've went the way the fans wanted, Wolfe would have been #1 Contender. Clear as day that that poll was rigged and changed days before Sacrifice. - Triple S Terry shoulda not even been considered based on their system. He has one title and only a few wins where as guys like Dvon have numerous wins and tons of championship history. Then, just for the heck of it let's throw in an x divison guy . The rankings are unecessary but trying to explain it was even more pointless. So jeff beat Sting, shouldnt Jeff move up? Who knows...who cares
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 18:03:04 GMT -5
He's won maybe 3 matches in TNA this year alone. Very convienient isn't it. He wins the poll, and just continues to job so TNA can "justify" him not being #1 contender.
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Post by No Brokeback on May 21, 2010 18:35:33 GMT -5
Jees, people. Yes, Desmond Wolfe won the poll, that's a great thing as he's one of my favorite wrestlers. He's one of the only wrestlers that completely won me over on what he does in the ring alone. He has a sharp look and everything to go with it...
But Christ, let them at least build his character up somewhat. He can't just go in the main event winning a title based on a poll. He can wrestle the champion for sure, but winning? Not gonna happen.
So, they're building him up, fleshing out a character before they do anything drastic with him. Give him some time.
Between Anderson, A.J, Sting, Beer Money, Wolfe is easily the one without any real character. So now, he's feuding with Abyss. Which last night, I didn't even know who to cheer for (which was bad on TNA's part) as 'who was supposed to be the 'face' in that scenario? I was for Wolfe the whole time against the monster looking abyss screaming to take her and rape her.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 21, 2010 22:28:36 GMT -5
He's won maybe 3 matches in TNA this year alone. Very convienient isn't it. He wins the poll, and just continues to job so TNA can "justify" him not being #1 contender. It's not just about "when the poll happened" though. Jesus, you act like he's not even on the rankings.. he's above Pope who's won a crapload more matches than Wolfe has. So, yes... the voting does count for a lot more than 1/2 of you make it out to be.
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Post by deskjet on May 22, 2010 0:49:13 GMT -5
Jees, people. Yes, Desmond Wolfe won the poll, that's a great thing as he's one of my favorite wrestlers. He's one of the only wrestlers that completely won me over on what he does in the ring alone. He has a sharp look and everything to go with it... But Christ, let them at least build his character up somewhat. He can't just go in the main event winning a title based on a poll. He can wrestle the champion for sure, but winning? Not gonna happen. So, they're building him up, fleshing out a character before they do anything drastic with him. Give him some time. Between Anderson, A.J, Sting, Beer Money, Wolfe is easily the one without any real character. So now, he's feuding with Abyss. Which last night, I didn't even know who to cheer for (which was bad on TNA's part) as 'who was supposed to be the 'face' in that scenario? I was for Wolfe the whole time against the monster looking abyss screaming to take her and rape her. Yea, so Chelsea and wolfe set up an angle saying that Abyss "assaulted" her and now he's legally allowed to do whatever he wants with her for 30 days? pffft, go figure
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Post by No Brokeback on May 22, 2010 3:10:43 GMT -5
Jees, people. Yes, Desmond Wolfe won the poll, that's a great thing as he's one of my favorite wrestlers. He's one of the only wrestlers that completely won me over on what he does in the ring alone. He has a sharp look and everything to go with it... But Christ, let them at least build his character up somewhat. He can't just go in the main event winning a title based on a poll. He can wrestle the champion for sure, but winning? Not gonna happen. So, they're building him up, fleshing out a character before they do anything drastic with him. Give him some time. Between Anderson, A.J, Sting, Beer Money, Wolfe is easily the one without any real character. So now, he's feuding with Abyss. Which last night, I didn't even know who to cheer for (which was bad on TNA's part) as 'who was supposed to be the 'face' in that scenario? I was for Wolfe the whole time against the monster looking abyss screaming to take her and rape her. Yea, so Chelsea and wolfe set up an angle saying that Abyss "assaulted" her and now he's legally allowed to do whatever he wants with her for 30 days? pffft, go figure I'm going to be assuming all of this But It's going to show how ruthless Wolfe can get when he has something on the line, such as Chelsea, and how far he'll go to actually please her. (which is a face move?) but, rather than showing how far he'd go for someone (like on Monday) it's going to show that he's going to go too far each time, which will still keep him a heel in the eyes of the crowd. All while doing this, it'll build his character up and make Flair's stable seem that much more unstoppable. If not, then Wolfe doesn't matter and will be released in a week. They obviously have plans for him and I'm not a writer, but my god give a character a chance.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 22, 2010 4:05:36 GMT -5
Yea, so Chelsea and wolfe set up an angle saying that Abyss "assaulted" her and now he's legally allowed to do whatever he wants with her for 30 days? pffft, go figure I'm going to be assuming all of this But It's going to show how ruthless Wolfe can get when he has something on the line, such as Chelsea, and how far he'll go to actually please her. (which is a face move?) but, rather than showing how far he'd go for someone (like on Monday) it's going to show that he's going to go too far each time, which will still keep him a heel in the eyes of the crowd. All while doing this, it'll build his character up and make Flair's stable seem that much more unstoppable. If not, then Wolfe doesn't matter and will be released in a week. They obviously have plans for him and I'm not a writer, but my god give a character a chance. I agree with everything you just said. It's obviously TNA has plans to push Wolfe in one-way shape or form. Is Wolfe gonna be World Champion tomorrow? Of course not. "Slow build" is what they need and are going for. Like he said, it shows how ruthless Wolfe is to get something.. or get something back. THink about it, the whole idea since Chelsea became his valet is "What Chelsea Wants.. Chelsea Gets". Wolfe will get her back weather by force or at the end of 30 days. He's built into a ruthless heel by destroying Abyss. If Van Dam is still champion, he can easily be sky-rocketed into a feud with Van Dam.
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Post by wwfepenguin on May 22, 2010 5:58:16 GMT -5
I don't know why people are getting pissy about Anderson's face turn. Yeah, he's an amazing heel, but with his mic skills, he could be TNA's Rock/Jericho during the attitude era if they do this right, but knowing TNA, they are going to have Anderson suck up to Hardy and this will suck. Unless Anderson turns on Hardy, which would be epic.
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Post by deskjet on May 22, 2010 10:26:18 GMT -5
Yea, so Chelsea and wolfe set up an angle saying that Abyss "assaulted" her and now he's legally allowed to do whatever he wants with her for 30 days? pffft, go figure I'm going to be assuming all of this But It's going to show how ruthless Wolfe can get when he has something on the line, such as Chelsea, and how far he'll go to actually please her. (which is a face move?) but, rather than showing how far he'd go for someone (like on Monday) it's going to show that he's going to go too far each time, which will still keep him a heel in the eyes of the crowd. All while doing this, it'll build his character up and make Flair's stable seem that much more unstoppable. If not, then Wolfe doesn't matter and will be released in a week. They obviously have plans for him and I'm not a writer, but my god give a character a chance. That's actually a good assumption. Let's hope there's some truth to it. However, given TNA's track record, this train could very well jump off the track within the next month. Pardon my skepticism, but this company has failed on too many occassions to properly develop a character for me to get my hopes up, again.
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Post by No Brokeback on May 22, 2010 13:35:27 GMT -5
I don't know why people are getting pissy about Anderson's face turn. Yeah, he's an amazing heel, but with his mic skills, he could be TNA's Rock/Jericho during the attitude era if they do this right, but knowing TNA, they are going to have Anderson suck up to Hardy and this will suck. Unless Anderson turns on Hardy, which would be epic. If you think Anderson is a face, then I think you are very wrong. There is a reason he interfered in Hardy's match. He's probably going to take credit for Hardy winning the 'Biggest match of his career". He'll be that unwanted help that will continue to get on Hardy's bad side. You can already tell with Andersons character there aren't any face qualities about him. I just started watching it on January 4th, I don't really know how the show has been since before then. I've seen a lot however change a TON in those six months. Before TNA went live, it seemed like a different show completely to what it is now, 2 months later. No more having to watch Jerrett do pointless stuff backstage, no Nasty boys, rarely any NWO (which is actually decent, even though I like them). It's a true focus on the younger talent right now...and just because wrestlers are from WWE, doesn't mean they aren't younger talent. Of course, I wish the X-Division played more into the show, which I'm sure in a few months they will get there time to shine, or actually in the next few weeks now that there is Kaz turning heel soon with the title (right?) so of course the X-Division will be shown off more It's probably going to be like this in a few months, which is going to bring the heels in place for the faces to grow A.J- TNA Title Wolfe- World Champ Beer Money- Tag champs Kaz- X Division champ To me, it seems that Flair's stable is Evolution done right..even without the titles right now.
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Post by wwfepenguin on May 22, 2010 13:53:48 GMT -5
I don't know why people are getting pissy about Anderson's face turn. Yeah, he's an amazing heel, but with his mic skills, he could be TNA's Rock/Jericho during the attitude era if they do this right, but knowing TNA, they are going to have Anderson suck up to Hardy and this will suck. Unless Anderson turns on Hardy, which would be epic. If you think Anderson is a face, then I think you are very wrong. There is a reason he interfered in Hardy's match. He's probably going to take credit for Hardy winning the 'Biggest match of his career". He'll be that unwanted help that will continue to get on Hardy's bad side. You can already tell with Andersons character there aren't any face qualities about him. I see what you mean there, but I was responding to the people who said Anderson would suck as a face. I do see the points you are making.
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Post by No Brokeback on May 22, 2010 13:57:48 GMT -5
Ah, sorry about that.
Anyway, my last little thing I want to say. It feels like i wrote too much. However, the only real gripe I have with TNA (other than Abyss) is that we have a champion (RVD) with no real motivation.
Sure, we can have a champion who can put on great matches, but..there has to be more than that. Why does he want the title? Why is it so important? I know TNA made him champion to get the ratings...but it's really a hollow champion.
"I have the title....I love TNA, *RVD Taunt*"
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 23, 2010 15:26:59 GMT -5
The fans in the impact zone chanting we want recount need to stfu, idiots I thought it was pretty funny - and it shows just how much of a joke, this "revolutionary" ranking system is. It should be based on fan choice alone.
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