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Post by Oskanowski on May 3, 2010 20:21:55 GMT -5
So.. You just look at an artist ONLY by the voice? So basically I'm right so far, she's a copy cat, has no talent, isn't any better than Eminem nor Madonna. What is it you like to say? "Learn to read", I believe? Did I not just differentiate what is going to draw either praise or criticism of an artist's talent, based upon the genre they belong to, and the manner in which they are marketed? I'll use an example that could permeate your thick skull - would you hold Kurt Cobain to the same standards that define talent as Eminem? Did you just not read where others have compared Gaga to Eminem & I stated they don't understand music? Then you basically said comparing Gaga to Eminem can't happen. No comparing Eminem to Kurt Cobain can't happen. You don't compare two different people, it's basically like comparing Larry King to Elvis just because Larry King's last name is KING and Elvis is known as " The King of Rock N Roll " & Mr. Perpetual Motion.. No You don't know what you are even talking about. Most people on this forum can't stand me and get laughs at spamming and trolling topics to my replies. Which I really don't care about. When has two people proved me wrong in this topic? No where, I've basically spoke common sense & posted my evidence of how she isn't talented. Get over it. Tell me I'm wrong five years from now when she isn't putting out music. & if you don't believe me about the trolls, look at SYE. He's basically one. Not only does he argue over something 13 year olds can figure out, he changes his sig and adds a picture of Kurt Cobain in it to try to " MAKES OSKA ANGRY " when it's basically fail.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 3, 2010 20:30:02 GMT -5
What is it you like to say? "Learn to read", I believe? Did I not just differentiate what is going to draw either praise or criticism of an artist's talent, based upon the genre they belong to, and the manner in which they are marketed? I'll use an example that could permeate your thick skull - would you hold Kurt Cobain to the same standards that define talent as Eminem? Did you just not read where others have compared Gaga to Eminem & I stated they don't understand music? Then you basically said comparing Gaga to Eminem can't happen. No comparing Eminem to Kurt Cobain can't happen. You don't compare two different people, it's basically like comparing Larry King to Elvis just because Larry King's last name is KING and Elvis is known as " The King of Rock N Roll " & Mr. Perpetual Motion.. No You don't know what you are even talking about. Most people on this forum can't stand me and get laughs at spamming and trolling topics to my replies. Which I really don't care about. When has two people proved me wrong in this topic? No where, I've basically spoke common sense & posted my evidence of how she isn't talented. Get over it. Tell me I'm wrong five years from now when she isn't putting out music. Oh sorry one person has completely shot you down twice. I stand corrected. You haven't posted any evidence of how she isn't talented. All you have posted is heresay and opinions. That's not facts or evidence. If someone was being brought to the stand as as a witness to a murder and said "It's my opinion this man is guilty because I don't like his look or how he sounds to me" they would throw that testimony out the window because it's dumb. Just like your "factual evidence" that Lady Gaga has no talent. It's heresay and dumb. When you give me video evidence of say her singing off key, performing sub par on a consistent basis, not writing her own music or being able to play an instrument I'll consider your point of her being talentless but until then shove off. I will definitely make sure that I'm bringing her to your attention in 5 years because I'm 100% positive that unless she ravages her body with drugs that she will still be making music that people want to hear in clubs. Deal with it.
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Post by Oskanowski on May 3, 2010 20:41:37 GMT -5
K. Well arguing with someone who don't understand music.. About understanding music.. Is kinda pointless I guess.. I guess in a few years when she isn't doing anything you'll understand.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 3, 2010 20:52:24 GMT -5
K. Well arguing with someone who don't understand music.. About understanding music.. Is kinda pointless I guess.. I guess in a few years when she isn't doing anything you'll understand. Lolz is that really the only thing you can rely on after being proven wrong? Said person "doesn't understand music"? I'm pretty sure I listen to more than just Nirvana so at the very least I'm more well versed in music than you are. I also understand grammar which is why "Well arguing with someone who don't understand music.." doesn't work. The word you're looking for is 'doesn't'... and an elipses has 3 periods not 2.
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Post by K5 on May 3, 2010 22:08:42 GMT -5
she tries too hard.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on May 4, 2010 7:52:22 GMT -5
What is it you like to say? "Learn to read", I believe? Did I not just differentiate what is going to draw either praise or criticism of an artist's talent, based upon the genre they belong to, and the manner in which they are marketed? I'll use an example that could permeate your thick skull - would you hold Kurt Cobain to the same standards that define talent as Eminem? Did you just not read where others have compared Gaga to Eminem & I stated they don't understand music? Then you basically said comparing Gaga to Eminem can't happen. No comparing Eminem to Kurt Cobain can't happen. You don't compare two different people, it's basically like comparing Larry King to Elvis just because Larry King's last name is KING and Elvis is known as " The King of Rock N Roll ". That's fine. You just reused my example I gave when I told you why Lady GaGa is talented. But you can't go back and forth on the subject just to make it suit your opinion.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 4, 2010 8:19:58 GMT -5
I love Lady Gaga, she's the only modern artist I actually listen to.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 10:03:29 GMT -5
she isn't a musician, musicians create music, she uses robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, she doesn't make music, i make better music in the toilet.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on May 4, 2010 10:18:46 GMT -5
she isn't a musician, musicians create music, she uses robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, she doesn't make music, i make better music in the toilet. She...uh...actually is a musician.
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Post by K5 on May 4, 2010 10:31:51 GMT -5
^ yes, but he has a good point in saying it's just overproduced garbage.
because for the most part, it is.
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Post by Oskanowski on May 4, 2010 11:22:25 GMT -5
She's a musician, sure. BUT she isn't an ACTUAL true musician, which is why she's fake & overrated. Like I've said already, she robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, like Anvil said. Plus she just copies from other artist in the way she dresses, which I've posted pictures. I'm done here, if you don't understand that, then.. I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 4, 2010 11:57:12 GMT -5
She's a musician, sure. BUT she isn't an ACTUAL true musician, which is why she's fake & overrated. Like I've said already, she robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, like Anvil said. Plus she just copies from other artist in the way she dresses, which I've posted pictures. I'm done here, if you don't understand that, then.. I don't know what to tell you. Thank god. I don't think anyone asked or wanted your insight to begin with -_-
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Post by Mr.GT on May 4, 2010 12:58:20 GMT -5
And yet, she might just be more talented than Eminem.
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Post by Oskanowski on May 4, 2010 13:03:40 GMT -5
She's a musician, sure. BUT she isn't an ACTUAL true musician, which is why she's fake & overrated. Like I've said already, she robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, like Anvil said. Plus she just copies from other artist in the way she dresses, which I've posted pictures. I'm done here, if you don't understand that, then.. I don't know what to tell you. Thank god. I don't think anyone asked or wanted your insight to begin with -_- I don't think anyone asked for anyone's insight in the first place genius.
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Post by K5 on May 4, 2010 14:38:49 GMT -5
She's a musician, sure. BUT she isn't an ACTUAL true musician, which is why she's fake & overrated. Like I've said already, she robotics and voice mods and robotic instruments in her songs, like Anvil said. Plus she just copies from other artist in the way she dresses, which I've posted pictures. I'm done here, if you don't understand that, then.. I don't know what to tell you. Thank god. I don't think anyone asked or wanted your insight to begin with -_- hey, i hate oskanowski's self righteous remarks just as much as anyone else on this site, but this time he's actually right.
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Post by d12 on May 4, 2010 17:08:30 GMT -5
Couldn't Kurt Cobain be brought into the discussion about fashion and how it goes with the music? He wore certain clothes that fit with his style of music, Gaga does the same. You keep downing her with no real proof other than you don't like her music. I have proof. I've already posted it. No Kurt Cobain couldn't be brought into this because he's an actual legendary talented musician. He didn't lip sing, plus his fashion was his own. He didn't have to copy past talent. lol, if you really want to compare Kurt Cobain to Lady Gaga... You seriously need some help and try figuring out music. To understand music you have to look further beyond just if the person is " OMGZ SEXY " or sounds like they have a good voice. Which most people don't do with Lady Gaga.. Can anyone even explain how she actually.. Has talent? I seriously doubt it. Like I've said, the only reason people enjoy her is for the beat in her songs & the way she dresses, and some think she's cute. That's nothing to do with actual talent. She's a copycat. Yet you people still count her as talent.. rofl. You people are actually saying she has more talent than someone like Eminem? ....Really now. You deserved to be beat in the head with sticks for even saying something so stupid. Eminem is a king of the genre he does, How many white rappers do you know that get looked upon by black rappers? No this isn't racist seeing how Hip Hop came up from black generations. Comments like that saying " Lady Gaga has more talent than Eminem " isn't an opinion, it's just strictly false. Eminem has been here longer and had way much more experience and time and talent than pretty much anyone ever will since Tupac & Biggie Smalls. The only one that has ever came close to knocking Eminem off was Lil Wayne. Give me a break. Call me a troll all you want, truth hurts.. Until Lady Gaga makes a song where she isn't stuttering ( PA PA PA PA POKER FACE ) & it actually sounds good and means something special, and quits dressing like mixtures of Madonna & Christina Aguilera. She's a copycat no talent. Could not be better said about Eminem my man, aside from you said Wayne is close to knocking him off is way wrong. Yes the guy has talent but will NEVER EVER become even close to as big as Eminem in the rap industry. Now Lady Gaga is talented in her genre and Eminem is in his. They can NOT be compared!. They are two totally different artists and people need to see that. And I know I'll get smited for saying this because of how ya'll are over things like this but, Beyonce had the best music video of all time.
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Post by extreme on May 4, 2010 17:20:33 GMT -5
whoever said that Lady Gaga isn't a real musician and is talentless doesn't really know enough about her to make that statement.
here's some stuff from 05 before she came into the mainstream and got her lady gaga persona.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 4, 2010 23:07:22 GMT -5
Thank god. I don't think anyone asked or wanted your insight to begin with -_- I don't think anyone asked for anyone's insight in the first place genius. But see at least everyone else's insight was useful. Yours wasn't. Usually never is either.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on May 4, 2010 23:14:06 GMT -5
She also does lip syncing. Her performances suck, as well as her lyrics. She didn't even come up with her own name. Rob Fusari did, and he got it from Queen's song Radio Ga-Ga. Pretty much one of the most overrated musicians ever in music. She also tells people " You don't have to have sex to feel good about yoruself " yet she was stripping at the age of 18.. People only enjoy her because of the way she dresses and more than half don't understand music anyways, nor care enough about it to really understand the musicians.. This is all of which I believe she sucks. Help me out here, I'm a bit confused. Your syntax implies that you just called Queen overrated.
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Post by Oskanowski on May 4, 2010 23:37:37 GMT -5
She also does lip syncing. Her performances suck, as well as her lyrics. She didn't even come up with her own name. Rob Fusari did, and he got it from Queen's song Radio Ga-Ga. Pretty much one of the most overrated musicians ever in music. She also tells people " You don't have to have sex to feel good about yoruself " yet she was stripping at the age of 18.. People only enjoy her because of the way she dresses and more than half don't understand music anyways, nor care enough about it to really understand the musicians.. This is all of which I believe she sucks. Help me out here, I'm a bit confused. Your syntax implies that you just called Queen overrated. Sorry about that, I meant Lady Gaga..
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