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Post by King Silva on May 6, 2010 23:44:31 GMT -5
I know it is a description and kinda helped paint the picture in my head of what was going down.
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Post by Drummerboy on May 7, 2010 7:37:57 GMT -5
I Dont think a resturant should retaliate against guests for not tipping as well as they could, I Mean sometimes i've only had enough money to eat and only left like 50 cents but at least i tried, Then again usually i do have more than enough to tip and i always do even if its only 1.00, But the better service i get the more i tip, I Go to denny's on my lunch break at work sometimes and no matter who the waiter/waitress is i always base my tip on how fast the service is and how friendly they are.
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 7:43:57 GMT -5
I Dont think a resturant should retaliate against guests for not tipping as well as they could, I Mean sometimes i've only had enough money to eat and only left like 50 cents but at least i tried, Then again usually i do have more than enough to tip and i always do even if its only 1.00, But the better service i get the more i tip, I Go to denny's on my lunch break at work sometimes and no matter who the waiter/waitress is i always base my tip on how fast the service is and how friendly they are. You dont need to be going out to eat then. If you knowingly go to a restaurant, knowing that these people (servers) are making sometimes 5 times LESS then what minimum wage is and you KNOW you're not gonna tip them, then go to a drive through. If nothing else have a little respect and class for people. Ive seriously had a table one time ask me "we're on a budget so what can we eat for say under $10" I pointed out the window and said "McDonalds is next door".......I was written up but they got the point and I didnt bust my ass for $.50 also just to make another point since someone decided to say "If you dont like the pay then find a better job" I enjoyed my job waiting tables. Sometimes the money was good but its the stiffs that are dick heads over tiny things most servers cant control that makes things hard.
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Post by 51 on May 7, 2010 7:49:15 GMT -5
I Dont think a resturant should retaliate against guests for not tipping as well as they could, I Mean sometimes i've only had enough money to eat and only left like 50 cents but at least i tried, Then again usually i do have more than enough to tip and i always do even if its only 1.00, But the better service i get the more i tip, I Go to denny's on my lunch break at work sometimes and no matter who the waiter/waitress is i always base my tip on how fast the service is and how friendly they are. You dont need to be going out to eat then. If you knowingly go to a restaurant, knowing that these people (servers) are making sometimes 5 times LESS then what minimum wage is and you KNOW you're not gonna tip them, then go to a drive through. If nothing else have a little respect and class for people. Ive seriously had a table one time ask me "we're on a budget so what can we eat for say under $10" I pointed out the window and said "McDonalds is next door".......I was written up but they got the point and I didnt bust my ass for $.50 also just to make another point since someone decided to say "If you dont like the pay then find a better job" I enjoyed my job waiting tables. Sometimes the money was good but its the stiffs that are dick heads over tiny things most servers cant control that makes things hard. Bust your ass? You carry a couple of plates and drinks and wipe a table down, hardly hard labour. I see no problem with people who have little money wanting to enjoy a resturaunt when they have no money to tip, heck, you just serving the 1 table? No, there are plenty of other tables for you to get a tip from. There is a huge difference from someone on a budget rather than a tightwad who does not give a tip over trivial things, like the OP.
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 8:00:33 GMT -5
You dont need to be going out to eat then. If you knowingly go to a restaurant, knowing that these people (servers) are making sometimes 5 times LESS then what minimum wage is and you KNOW you're not gonna tip them, then go to a drive through. If nothing else have a little respect and class for people. Ive seriously had a table one time ask me "we're on a budget so what can we eat for say under $10" I pointed out the window and said "McDonalds is next door".......I was written up but they got the point and I didnt bust my ass for $.50 also just to make another point since someone decided to say "If you dont like the pay then find a better job" I enjoyed my job waiting tables. Sometimes the money was good but its the stiffs that are dick heads over tiny things most servers cant control that makes things hard. Bust your ass? You carry a couple of plates and drinks and wipe a table down, hardly hard labour. I see no problem with people who have little money wanting to enjoy a resturaunt when they have no money to tip, heck, you just serving the 1 table? No, there are plenty of other tables for you to get a tip from. There is a huge difference from someone on a budget rather than a tightwad who does not give a tip over trivial things, like the OP. Clearly you've never waited tables then. Ive worked everything from retail to construction to hotel work and working in a restaurant was by far the most physically demanding job Ive had. and if every jackass had the same "you have plenty of tables to get a tip from" attitude, then you wouldnt be getting a tip now would ya?
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Post by 51 on May 7, 2010 8:08:59 GMT -5
I have never waited tables, but I have worked in a fruit and veg market, carrying heavy boxes of veg, huge sacks of potatoes to cars.
If everyone had that attitude, sure, no one would get a tip. You think the customer who asked for your help to what they can get for $10 was happy about his situation. You embarassed him all over a few dollars, that is a pretty low.
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 8:21:48 GMT -5
I have never waited tables, but I have worked in a fruit and veg market, carrying heavy boxes of veg, huge sacks of potatoes to cars. If everyone had that attitude, sure, no one would get a tip. You think the customer who asked for your help to what they can get for $10 was happy about his situation. You embarassed him all over a few dollars, that is a pretty low. But at your job carrying fruits and veggies you probably made at least minimum wage, plus we've determined that in the UK servers make 4-5 times as much as servers in the US. Servers make BELOW minimum wage. Minimum wage locally is $7.50 and hour (i think), I made $2.13 a hour working at Applebees. My bills depends on YOUR tip. Now if I give you shitty ass service, thats a different story but if I bust my ass to make your trip pleasant and you're so broke you cant afford to tip me, then leave your ass at home. People dont know unless they've waited tables. The "common" tipping procedure is 15% of the total check OR "double the tax". I tip neither, Ill tip on the service, good or bad but Ill always tip. On average I usually have a $15 check when I go out to eat. Ill leave between $20-$21 total. That is WELL above the norm. Servers depend on customers just as much as you depend on your boss to pay you for your work so you can pay bills. Im pretty sure it wouldnt go over well if a boss said "Hey you dont work to hard. You just sit at a desk all day and answer phones, besides Ive only got $100 on me so I dont think Ill pay you"
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Post by Drummerboy on May 7, 2010 9:01:36 GMT -5
I Dont think a resturant should retaliate against guests for not tipping as well as they could, I Mean sometimes i've only had enough money to eat and only left like 50 cents but at least i tried, Then again usually i do have more than enough to tip and i always do even if its only 1.00, But the better service i get the more i tip, I Go to denny's on my lunch break at work sometimes and no matter who the waiter/waitress is i always base my tip on how fast the service is and how friendly they are. You dont need to be going out to eat then. If you knowingly go to a restaurant, knowing that these people (servers) are making sometimes 5 times LESS then what minimum wage is and you KNOW you're not gonna tip them, then go to a drive through. If nothing else have a little respect and class for people. Well i should state that it is very seldom that i dont have money to tip if i go somewhere like that, Its also their choice of where they work and they accept the wage they are paid, Jobs like that are a crapshoot, You might make 5.00 You might make 100.00, Not trying to come off as the person who goes out and does that kind of thing all the time lol.
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Post by The Future on May 7, 2010 9:38:50 GMT -5
Sounds to me like you're racist and just wanna play the blame game.
You didn't like your server? Tell the manager. Write Applebees headquarter and get yourself a free meal voucher or something. Don't discriminate against a family of strangers minding their own business.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 7, 2010 10:47:00 GMT -5
I agree with the gentleman who said that if you can't afford to leave a tip, you don't need to be going out to eat. My best friend was a server for 8 years. From his example, I always leave a more than generous tip. It's hard work. Regardless of whether you can afford a tip or not, not leaving one will be remembered. I delivered food for 3 years, less than minimum wage. I always remembered the people who never tipped. It's a little different for drivers, so if I don't get a tip one time, no biggie. There were regulars who never tipped, though. Those people definitely received less than stellar treatment, ranging from making sure that they are the last to be run to holding their food out the window while I drove in sub degree temperature, ensuring it would be cold. That's nothing compared to what the cooks did to people that were total dicks. I could tell you some seriously messed up stories. Don't be a dick. They are servers, not servants. If you can't treat your server right, just heat up some damn ramen noodles at home. There is a special place in Hell for people like you.
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Post by WarMachine08 on May 7, 2010 11:29:56 GMT -5
totally reminds me of the bitch from Waiting. Awesome.
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Post by Greensborohill on May 7, 2010 11:38:40 GMT -5
this has probably already been mentioned, but in the context of your story the fact that the family of 5 was hispanic had no relevance.
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 11:40:58 GMT -5
totally reminds me of the bitch from Waiting. Awesome. Which i will not lie, is spot on to how my life at Applebees was. No joke. People were down to the T to the actual people I worked with. Including the old manager that wanted to bang the underage hostess lol
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 7, 2010 12:03:19 GMT -5
totally reminds me of the bitch from Waiting. Awesome. Which i will not lie, is spot on to how my life at Applebees was. No joke. People were down to the T to the actual people I worked with. Including the old manager that wanted to bang the underage hostess lol Dear God, I hope that excludes the pubic lice.
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 12:45:02 GMT -5
Which i will not lie, is spot on to how my life at Applebees was. No joke. People were down to the T to the actual people I worked with. Including the old manager that wanted to bang the underage hostess lol Dear God, I hope that excludes the pubic lice. I have personally not see any food touch the pubic area in any way, however I have seen some things that would probably make you not wanna eat in public places again.
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Post by 51 on May 7, 2010 12:54:06 GMT -5
Dear God, I hope that excludes the pubic lice. I have personally not see any food touch the pubic area in any way, however I have seen some things that would probably make you not wanna eat in public places again. Can you give a couple of examples?
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Post by carly1988 on May 7, 2010 13:07:08 GMT -5
I have personally not see any food touch the pubic area in any way, however I have seen some things that would probably make you not wanna eat in public places again. Can you give a couple of examples? Just things i can think of.... -Ive seen cooks wash off hamburger pattys in the dish sink when they had cheese on them and shouldnt have. -Ive seen the Chicken patty, like the one mentioned before, used basically as a hockey puck (on the floor of course) going from fry side to broil. -Ive seen servers get pissed off about customers and spit in drinks and even lick their cups before filling them up. -Im almost 90% sure I saw a cook do a line of coke off the cutting board that almost all of the food touches. I say 90% cause all i could see from where i was standing him lean over and then raise back up rubbing his nose, but he was a pretty big druggy. -Numerous food has hit the floor and just been picked back up like it was nothing. -Sometimes we ran out of tea spoons and servers would just take it out of the dish water and run some water over it and dry it off..... I mean this stuff REALLY does happen.
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Post by spearjack24 on May 7, 2010 16:42:32 GMT -5
There is no law or written rule saying "Tips are Manditory". Don't get me wrong I do leave a tip, but only when I feel I've received good service. That's the way it used to be, and that's the way it will stay. Until I see a law or rule; then a tip will be left when I see fit. If a law or rule does exist; I will no longer eat at an establishment that requires tips. Than it will be Micky D's, BK, B-Bops..etc for this patron!
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Post by Deep Figure Value on May 7, 2010 17:22:08 GMT -5
Hmmm...by the law of "don't go out to eat unless you intend to tip", should commissioned sales people be included in some manner? "Don't seek the assistance of a commissioned sales associate unless you are 100% going to buy"? 'Cause alot of 'em don't make a dime until that appliance/tractor/television/couch is delivered.
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Post by musicfan on May 7, 2010 17:27:31 GMT -5
There is no law or written rule saying "Tips are Manditory". Don't get me wrong I do leave a tip, but only when I feel I've received good service. That's the way it used to be, and that's the way it will stay. Until I see a law or rule; then a tip will be left when I see fit. If a law or rule does exist; I will no longer eat at an establishment that requires tips. Than it will be Micky D's, BK, B-Bops..etc for this patron! you're a cheap then basically?
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