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Post by LtD73 on May 19, 2010 23:18:01 GMT -5
It's worth noting that Madison Rayne's triumph over Tara at Sunday's Sacrifice pay-per-view was her first singles match victory in her entire TNA career. Rayne joined the organization over a year ago. Please dont turn this into an argument about how madison is underated etc. (you know who you are  |
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Post by Drdoom on May 19, 2010 23:53:17 GMT -5
She had the longest losing streak for a long time.
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Post by Chris Hammers on May 20, 2010 6:05:08 GMT -5
What do you mean don't turn it in to an argument over how she's underrated? Have you seen any of her SHIMMER matches? Compare them to her TNA matches and you'll see how underrated she really is.
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Post by Jord on May 20, 2010 6:45:04 GMT -5
That's pathetic that TNA haven't given her more singles wins. I know she's got the winning pinfall in tag team matches, but to never give her a singles victory is intellectually- disabled.
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Post by jfinnomore on May 20, 2010 9:51:46 GMT -5
that would suck if she wasn't holding two belts atm. could be a lot worse.
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Post by LtD73 on May 20, 2010 10:32:55 GMT -5
they gave Lacey, madisons tag title What do you mean don't turn it in to an argument over how she's underrated? Have you seen any of her SHIMMER matches? Compare them to her TNA matches and you'll see how underrated she really is. No, i havent and i dont want to, i kinda make it obvious that i'm not a madison rayne fan... |
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Post by jfinnomore on May 20, 2010 10:39:12 GMT -5
they gave Lacey, madisons tag title What do you mean don't turn it in to an argument over how she's underrated? Have you seen any of her SHIMMER matches? Compare them to her TNA matches and you'll see how underrated she really is. No, i havent and i dont want to, i kinda make it obvious that i'm not a madison rayne fan... regardless she's already accomplished more than Velvet in her short TNA tenure. |
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Post by LtD73 on May 20, 2010 11:02:21 GMT -5
wondered how long it'd be until someone brought velvet into this.  |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 20, 2010 12:53:38 GMT -5
wondered how long it'd be until someone brought velvet into this. Maybe if you weren't acting like a prick no body would've brought her in. Anyways it's pretty dumb that she's not had a singles match victory in her entire career... On another note...... Sacrifice was Sunday? |
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Post by LtD73 on May 20, 2010 13:07:56 GMT -5
Yeah sacrifice was this past sunday
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Post by SodaGuy on May 20, 2010 14:49:52 GMT -5
What do you mean don't turn it in to an argument over how she's underrated? Have you seen any of her SHIMMER matches? Compare them to her TNA matches and you'll see how underrated she really is. No, dude! You can't say she's underrated, it's apparently a freaking sin around here.,  But, I agree with you and I don't exactly see the big deal with her being champion. First and foremost, she didn't win it clean. Lacey interfered and cast Tara/Angelina Love the match, along with the title. Second, like I've said since April - there was NOONE else in the match that as a heel that would've been a better champion. If anyone says Velvet Sky, why don't you take a look at history. How many SINGLES wins (since god forbid, we look at their complete win-loss record) has she had in her TNA run? She has MAYBE 5 single wins in her TNA career and that's pushing it. That was your only other option. So, you would rather have a champion that apparently can't take a bump decently and someone who only have 5 singles wins.. or a champion who can wrestle, with a shocking outcome, in a fluke? I think the choice is pretty obvious for a WRESTLING company.. |
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Post by jfinnomore on May 20, 2010 14:55:33 GMT -5
What do you mean don't turn it in to an argument over how she's underrated? Have you seen any of her SHIMMER matches? Compare them to her TNA matches and you'll see how underrated she really is. No, dude! You can't say she's underrated, it's apparently a freaking sin around here., But, I agree with you and I don't exactly see the big deal with her being champion. First and foremost, she didn't win it clean. Lacey interfered and cast Tara/Angelina Love the match, along with the title. Second, like I've said since April - there was NOONE else in the match that as a heel that would've been a better champion. If anyone says Velvet Sky, why don't you take a look at history. How many SINGLES wins (since god forbid, we look at their complete win-loss record) has she had in her TNA run? She has MAYBE 5 single wins in her TNA career and that's pushing it. That was your only other option. So, you would rather have a champion that apparently can't take a bump decently and someone who only have 5 singles wins.. or a champion who can wrestle, with a shocking outcome, in a fluke? I think the choice is pretty obvious for a WRESTLING company.. since you brought it up, i went and skimmed OWOW and I only saw a couple of single wins for Velvet, didn't really notice until now. |
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Post by Jord on May 20, 2010 15:28:24 GMT -5
It made sense for TNA to give Madison the belt since she is the best worker out of herself, Velvet and Lacey. However, the least TNA could have done was give Madison more singles wins.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 20, 2010 15:49:43 GMT -5
It made sense for TNA to give Madison the belt since she is the best worker out of herself, Velvet and Lacey. However, the least TNA could have done was give Madison more singles wins. But, to me.. it makes it come off more real. If Madison went on a big win streak in March (leading up until Lockdown) and then all of a sudden there's a Knockout Title match with her in it, wouldn't that have been a little to predictable? I think it worked better because nobody saw it coming. It also added a sense of realism (something that wrestling lacks) because it was kind of an "underdog". Nobody expected her to win and it added a sense of "Anybody can be beaten, at any point." in a time where everything in wrestling is pretty predictable, it was a good call to do something unpredictable. Do I think TNA needs to give her some more credibility? Absolutely. I'm not arguing that since that's something I've said since the day she stepped in the door in TNA. But, I think her being champion without a 12-5 record isn't a big deal. This isn't mixed martial arts where Wins/Losses matter so I think saying Madison shouldn't be champion based on win/loss records is a little bit absurd because if that was the case, you have no heel Knockout to challenge for the belt. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2010 17:54:21 GMT -5
It made sense for TNA to give Madison the belt since she is the best worker out of herself, Velvet and Lacey. However, the least TNA could have done was give Madison more singles wins. But, to me.. it makes it come off more real. If Madison went on a big win streak in March (leading up until Lockdown) and then all of a sudden there's a Knockout Title match with her in it, wouldn't that have been a little to predictable? I think it worked better because nobody saw it coming. It also added a sense of realism (something that wrestling lacks) because it was kind of an "underdog". Nobody expected her to win and it added a sense of "Anybody can be beaten, at any point." in a time where everything in wrestling is pretty predictable, it was a good call to do something unpredictable. Do I think TNA needs to give her some more credibility? Absolutely. I'm not arguing that since that's something I've said since the day she stepped in the door in TNA. But, I think her being champion without a 12-5 record isn't a big deal. This isn't mixed martial arts where Wins/Losses matter so I think saying Madison shouldn't be champion based on win/loss records is a little bit absurd because if that was the case, you have no heel Knockout to challenge for the belt. I agree, but I can't help feeling unsurprised by it... |
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