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Post by LtD73 on Jun 26, 2010 7:00:57 GMT -5
Not gonna watch this tbh,the amount of stupid fans asking questions, in that video alone
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Post by King Silva on Jun 26, 2010 7:29:50 GMT -5
I can't believe she did this! I wonder how much they paid her. And Vince sell to her? Bitch please!
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Post by the franchise on Jun 26, 2010 10:00:33 GMT -5
It could be interesting or a disaster.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 26, 2010 14:14:14 GMT -5
So when she says "she'll fire someone else, if she hears a "fire Russo" chant again", it means she basically doesn't care what the fans want. She comes off as a moron in that, tbh and she's lucky her Daddy owns the company, because she's got no business being in the wrestling industry. It will be so funny when eventually folds. Also, LOL at the notion of Vince selling to her - what a delusional idiot.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jun 26, 2010 14:28:09 GMT -5
So when she says "she'll fire someone else, if she hears a "fire Russo" chant again", it means she basically doesn't care what the fans want. She comes off as a moron in that, tbh and she's lucky her Daddy owns the company, because she's got no business being in the wrestling industry. It will be so funny when eventually folds. Also, LOL at the notion of Vince selling to her - what a delusional idiot. When it's not Russo's fault, yes, you fire someone else instead of the person that isn't at fault. We've been over this Russo crap already, Russo isn't nor wasn't the problem. Go watch from about July 2009 until the end of December 2009. The stupid finishes weren't there, gimmick matches weren't being over used, the young guys were getting a push, it was feaurting more wrestling on iMPACT. That was Conway/Russo/Ferrera - so you still want her to "Fire RUsso" when the proof is not only right there but the fact talent has came out and said that it's not Russo? That's logical, let's fire a man because a few fans in the iMPACT Zone, you know that arena where 99.9% of this forum hates because they're "just there to get themselves over", chanted "Fire Russo" two years ago. Logical. Also, you're taking what Dixie Carter said in a few second clip and blowing it out of proportion. We don't know what she said 10 seconds before that comment nor after that comment. We don't know what the question was asked. We don't know what she meant by that until we see the DVD. It came off as her way of telling creative to do better because if she hears another "Fire Russo" chant for, it's their job since she knows what he does and does not have a hand it. Seems pretty damn logical.. if Russo isn't the problem (And she knows this..) then you don't' fire him - you fire the people around him which brought us to July 2009: Jarrett removed from creative, Mantel removed from Creative, enter Ed Ferrera.. the product improves. Should we still "Fire Russo" even though when it was him, Ferrera and Matt Conway the product head and shoulders improved? No, you shouldn't. You don't fire someone for doing their job correctly, which he apparently does. I can't believe she did this! I wonder how much they paid her. And Vince sell to her?
Bitch please! That's her point, Sherlock Holmes. He won't sell to her and she won't sell to him.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Jun 26, 2010 15:15:26 GMT -5
I dont think someone of her standing should be doing these kind of things,thats just me though.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 26, 2010 15:46:00 GMT -5
How is she brave? From the looks of this its 75% questions involving TNA being like WCW 2000. She will probably just give bullpoop answers. Heres my major question: Whos to blame for dropping the ball on Samoa Joe since alittle after his first fued with Angle? Uh, putting herself infront of a crowd of wrestling fans with no net of "protection" from questions. Yeah, for an owner of a wrestling promotion that is hated by about 85% of the wrestling fans, pretty freaking brave. Her security net is someone asks a question and she can give the BS answer that doesnt really answer the question and move on. There was no ability to sit down and get a follow up or challenge her answer.
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Post by carly1988 on Jun 26, 2010 16:37:21 GMT -5
So when she says "she'll fire someone else, if she hears a "fire Russo" chant again", it means she basically doesn't care what the fans want. She comes off as a moron in that, tbh and she's lucky her Daddy owns the company, because she's got no business being in the wrestling industry. It will be so funny when eventually folds. Also, LOL at the notion of Vince selling to her - what a delusional idiot. When it's not Russo's fault, yes, you fire someone else instead of the person that isn't at fault. We've been over this Russo crap already, Russo isn't nor wasn't the problem. Go watch from about July 2009 until the end of December 2009. The stupid finishes weren't there, gimmick matches weren't being over used, the young guys were getting a push, it was feaurting more wrestling on iMPACT. That was Conway/Russo/Ferrera - so you still want her to "Fire RUsso" when the proof is not only right there but the fact talent has came out and said that it's not Russo? That's logical, let's fire a man because a few fans in the iMPACT Zone, you know that arena where 99.9% of this forum hates because they're "just there to get themselves over", chanted "Fire Russo" two years ago. Logical. Also, you're taking what Dixie Carter said in a few second clip and blowing it out of proportion. We don't know what she said 10 seconds before that comment nor after that comment. We don't know what the question was asked. We don't know what she meant by that until we see the DVD. It came off as her way of telling creative to do better because if she hears another "Fire Russo" chant for, it's their job since she knows what he does and does not have a hand it. Seems pretty damn logical.. if Russo isn't the problem (And she knows this..) then you don't' fire him - you fire the people around him which brought us to July 2009: Jarrett removed from creative, Mantel removed from Creative, enter Ed Ferrera.. the product improves. Should we still "Fire Russo" even though when it was him, Ferrera and Matt Conway the product head and shoulders improved? No, you shouldn't. You don't fire someone for doing their job correctly, which he apparently does. I can't believe she did this! I wonder how much they paid her. And Vince sell to her?
Bitch please! That's her point, Sherlock Holmes. He won't sell to her and she won't sell to him. Too bad its not hers to sell or keep.... Seriously though, Dixie is as qualified to run TNA as I am. Neither of us have any experience in wrestling, we both probably watched it on tv its just her dad has a lot more money then mine......even then, I still think I could run it better then she could.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Jun 26, 2010 17:05:29 GMT -5
IF its not Russo then get rid of whoever it is, the fact that the same people are still in charge shows she is clueless.... She did. Look at the amount of people who are enjoying the current TNA product now than they were at this time last year. This time last year it was: Russo, Jarrett, Mantel, and Matt Conway. The only two left are Russo and Conway. Who was writing when people were enjoying TNA a lot with WOlfe/Angle, Styles/Joe/Daniels, etc. Guess who? You got it. Russo. If you take away Jarrett/Mantel and the product improves.. with only Russo/Conway/Ferrera. Who is to blame? Anyone but Russo/Ferrera/Conway. If you add Hogan/Bischoff to Russo/Ferrera/Conway and the product starts to smell again, who exactly is the problem? It isn't Russo, Conway, nor Ferrera because they were doing a great job. Wow you must enjoy your head in the sand........ Russo, Jarrett, Mantel, and Matt Conway were averaging 1.2's to 1.5's. And it was becoming stagnant and unwatchable. Now you have Russo/Ferrera/Conway and they are averaging 0.6 to 1.0 GUESS WHAT THE COMMON FACTOR IS? Yep you guessed it! 2 of the 3 guys still listed are still running, and ruining creative. Clearly you are no Math Major if you think going from a 1.3 average to a 0.9 average is "More people enjoying the shows." Adding Hogan/Bischoff SHOULD have made more of an impact on the booking, at least we all hoped, but the reality is that its only kept the knuckleheads in charge from completely losing the entire audience. The "Fire Russo" chants were coming WAY before July 2009. Yeah fans just go to "get themselves over at an Impact taping." Nice to know you think so low of your fellow TNA fans. I mean it couldn't be that they have been watching as long as you, or care as much as you do right? I mean if they did they could only come to the same conclusion as you right? I agree that we don't know what she meant by that until we see the DVD. And I can't wait to hear that explanation, but I won't be surprised by the full answer. It might be her way of telling creative to do better job, or it might be that she's saying that Russo is untouchable in her eyes, and it everybody else fault. All I know is that from the time you say Russo became more in charge the LESS I cared for the product. Story lines were more unwatchable, and stuff became less and less understandable. Hell when it was announced that Hogan was coming in I actually thought "At least this is the end of the Russo era." At least I was willing to give someone with the history of what they did in WCW a chance, and most other die hard fans who want to see an alternative to WWE succeed because its good for everyone who loves wrestling. Continuing to defend idiocy makes you guilty by association. You might want to think about that the next time you post on these subjects.
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Post by Lk™ on Jun 26, 2010 17:15:32 GMT -5
bad idea on her part.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jun 26, 2010 18:19:58 GMT -5
Bret_Hart_Mark -
1.) TNA weren't getting a 1.5 with Jarrett/Mantel/Russo/Conway. I don't know where you pulled that number from.. maybe out of the sand where my head supposedly is. TNA didn't reach a 1.5 rating until January 4th, 2010 long after Jeff Jarrett was removed from creative and Mantel was released, that's also when Bischoff started to have creative input. Second off, Russo/Ferrera/Conway popped a 1.3 rating back to back weeks in August. TNA also didn't hit a 0.6 rating until 2010.. when Hogan & Bischoff had came into the company. You're pulling numbers.
2.) I really do love how you don't bother to read and try to twist my words around. Why don't you pull your damn head out of the sand and READ what I say, correctly?
- "That's logical, let's fire a man because a few fans in the iMPACT Zone, you know that arena where 99.9% of this forum hates because they're just there to get themselves over" chanted "Fire Russo" two years ago. Locial".
Lookie there, that is what I said.. not what you tried to pull out of my post and twist my words. I don't mind having a back and forth debate with someone, as obviously seen by this thread but the debate goes out the window when someone decides not to read what I'm saying and make their own conclusion out of my CLEARY worded sentences. I didn't say I think they are there to get themselves over, are some of them? Yes. But, not the ones this forum thinks are. This forum craps all over the iMPACT Zone fans and states they're either "Just their because they think it's an attraction" (which I find crazy, since you have to stand in the hot sun for HOURS to get in..) or just there to get themselves over - did I say that? No. WF has said that in the past.
I also cleary stated "Fire Russo" chants were two years ago - when was the last time you heard a real "Fire Russo" chant? Not one or two people chanting it but 10 or more.. years ago. It hasn't been recent.
Russo isn't the devil, he's not to blame for every thing that goes wrong, and isn't the problem as I've proved in this thread - I have backed up everything I said as far as when creative made changes, when more people enjoy the product, etc. I don't look at ratings as a way of people's enjoyments.. ratings do not mean a product is better than another product nor shows how much one product is enjoyed. How many months was WWF better than WCW until the ratings slid back into WWF's side? Exactly.
Hell, by the logic of "Ratings shows how much people enjoy the show".. I guess the "glory" years of TNA in 2004-2005 didn't mean crap because they sure didn't have the ratings every week that do now since they were on FSN with an avg. of a 0.3 rating and then they were off TV for months before SpikeTV picked them up and they were getting 0.6 - 0.8. Ratings do NOT equal a better product.
Like I said, I don't mind a little debate but you really should make sure you have read what people have said carefully because you totally twisted my words around to try to prove a point instead of taking what I said and using what you know against it.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 26, 2010 18:43:01 GMT -5
You guys are so ironic. Thinking you know a company better than the people in the company. All you know is a few random things you've heard from DVD and internet websites. The stuff I pointed out has nothing to do with internet sites and DVDs. My posts came from interviews with talent (still employed, some not) and just common sense since we all know Jarrett and Mantel both were removed from creative and Ferrera was brought in. I don't think that was directed at you as much as it was everyone else. You people will bitch about anything. Every time you don't like an idea you get on here and moan and complain. Now shes answering all the complaints and moans and what do you do? Complain. Even Slappy, that she isn't experienced enough to have a shoot? Are you ing kidding me? Shes running the 2nd biggest wrestling company in the world and you don't think she would have anything insightful to say? Astounding.
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Post by NotoriusVIG on Jun 26, 2010 19:09:53 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out where SG has gotten his info from. It's quite clear when Russo's influence comes into play. Several TNA episodes come to mind that are parallel to Russo's handywork in 2000 WCW. Where are your source materials for the idea that Russo isn't one of the main guys to blame for how terrible TNA has been run? Provide me facts, get me some stuff from the Observer or something to back up your stuff.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 26, 2010 19:11:38 GMT -5
"2nd biggest wrestling company in the world"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Now, that's a good one.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jun 26, 2010 19:44:01 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out where SG has gotten his info from. It's quite clear when Russo's influence comes into play. Several TNA episodes come to mind that are parallel to Russo's handywork in 2000 WCW. Where are your source materials for the idea that Russo isn't one of the main guys to blame for how terrible TNA has been run? Provide me facts, get me some stuff from the Observer or something to back up your stuff. I'm not saying Russo doesn't have any influence though, has there been bad? Without a doubt. But, it's common knowledge that when it was just Russo/Conway/Ferrera following Jarrett being releived of his power with his relationships with Karen and Mantel being released/fired, that the silly finishes decreased and the young guys pushes started to get better. Wolfe came in and feuded with Kurt Angle and was built strongly, Daniels main evened two back to back PPVs, iMPACT matches got longer (even if just a little bit), and they put on two great PPVs, etc. Then Hogan/Bischoff came into the picture and everything came to a halt. Wolfe's push is history, Daniels pushed stopped and got released, matches on iMPACT got shorter, silly gimmicks came (Orlando Jordan), stupid finishes returned (DX and LD), etc. Is Russo guilty of some bad stuff? Without a doubt. Is he as guilty as people make it out to be? Without a doubt, no. But, when we know it was just three guys and the product improved (even just a little bit) and then all of a sudden it starts to decrease bait after yet another creative change.. should we really decide to hang Russo? No, not by a long shot. You act like I just pulled this crapout of my ass.. I didn't. My points are valid and speak for themselves. It doesn't mean you have to like them.. but my points are valid.
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Post by ICW on Jun 26, 2010 20:01:47 GMT -5
TNA just sucks.
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Post by NotoriusVIG on Jun 26, 2010 20:04:12 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out where SG has gotten his info from. It's quite clear when Russo's influence comes into play. Several TNA episodes come to mind that are parallel to Russo's handywork in 2000 WCW. Where are your source materials for the idea that Russo isn't one of the main guys to blame for how terrible TNA has been run? Provide me facts, get me some stuff from the Observer or something to back up your stuff. I'm not saying Russo doesn't have any influence though, has there been bad? Without a doubt. But, it's common knowledge that when it was just Russo/Conway/Ferrera following Jarrett being releived of his power with his relationships with Karen and Mantel being released/fired, that the silly finishes decreased and the young guys pushes started to get better. Wolfe came in and feuded with Kurt Angle and was built strongly, Daniels main evened two back to back PPVs, iMPACT matches got longer (even if just a little bit), and they put on two great PPVs, etc. Then Hogan/Bischoff came into the picture and everything came to a halt. Wolfe's push is history, Daniels pushed stopped and got released, matches on iMPACT got shorter, silly gimmicks came (Orlando Jordan), stupid finishes returned (DX and LD), etc. Is Russo guilty of some bad stuff? Without a doubt. Is he as guilty as people make it out to be? Without a doubt, no. But, when we know it was just three guys and the product improved (even just a little bit) and then all of a sudden it starts to decrease bait after yet another creative change.. should we really decide to hang Russo? No, not by a long shot. You act like I just pulled this poop out of my ass.. I didn't. My points are valid and speak for themselves. It doesn't mean you have to like them.. but my points are valid. Ok, that's an ok point I guess. The idea of the product improving is very arguable though. Those are improvements that you mentioned but the overall product is and was severely lacking no matter who was on the writing team. I can certainly look at some episodes of Impact on Mondays that have Russo's fingerprints all over them and are nearly identical to some episodes of Nitro under Russo. I agree that Russo shouldn't be the only guy to blame but he certainly should carry a heavy responsibility seeing as how he's been head of the writing team up until the last few weeks, it seems. Personally, I think Dixie's comment is unbelievable to begin with. I don't really care who is writing Impact, it needs to be revamped from the ground up with a new team and Dixie can't recognize that.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jun 26, 2010 20:13:30 GMT -5
I'm not saying Russo doesn't have any influence though, has there been bad? Without a doubt. But, it's common knowledge that when it was just Russo/Conway/Ferrera following Jarrett being releived of his power with his relationships with Karen and Mantel being released/fired, that the silly finishes decreased and the young guys pushes started to get better. Wolfe came in and feuded with Kurt Angle and was built strongly, Daniels main evened two back to back PPVs, iMPACT matches got longer (even if just a little bit), and they put on two great PPVs, etc. Then Hogan/Bischoff came into the picture and everything came to a halt. Wolfe's push is history, Daniels pushed stopped and got released, matches on iMPACT got shorter, silly gimmicks came (Orlando Jordan), stupid finishes returned (DX and LD), etc. Is Russo guilty of some bad stuff? Without a doubt. Is he as guilty as people make it out to be? Without a doubt, no. But, when we know it was just three guys and the product improved (even just a little bit) and then all of a sudden it starts to decrease bait after yet another creative change.. should we really decide to hang Russo? No, not by a long shot. You act like I just pulled this poop out of my ass.. I didn't. My points are valid and speak for themselves. It doesn't mean you have to like them.. but my points are valid. Ok, that's an ok point I guess. The idea of the product improving is very arguable though. Those are improvements that you mentioned but the overall product is and was severely lacking no matter who was on the writing team. I can certainly look at some episodes of Impact on Mondays that have Russo's fingerprints all over them and are nearly identical to some episodes of Nitro under Russo. I agree that Russo shouldn't be the only guy to blame but he certainly should carry a heavy responsibility seeing as how he's been head of the writing team up until the last few weeks, it seems. Personally, I think Dixie's comment is unbelievable to begin with. I don't really care who is writing Impact, it needs to be revamped from the ground up with a new team and Dixie can't recognize that. I'm not saying the product went back to being "zombz aweomse" either though, so don't get that idea. Was the product 10 times better, no. Was it more enjoyable? To me and a good bit of WF, yes it was. Is it time for Russo to step aside, yes and I think the fact that Russo is willing to go to a different position in the company if Heyman comes aboard shows Russo is ready to get out of writing/creative. Russo nor TNA is perfect but when it was just Russo/Ferrera/Conway, it was better than say 6 months prior. That's all I am saying - there is always room for improvement.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 26, 2010 23:35:51 GMT -5
Not nearly as bad as your fantasy booking
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Post by King Silva on Jun 27, 2010 9:02:54 GMT -5
TNA does suck but the dvd should be kinda funny to watch.
I won't buy it but I did buy Maria's YouShoot and it was pretty good.
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