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Post by moocow on Aug 15, 2010 22:32:15 GMT -5
Did anyone notice no one gives a damn about Undertaker's return? Well it wasn't really a surprise, I mean it was obvious he would return at some point, we had no idea that Danielson would return.
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Post by spreedom8 on Aug 15, 2010 22:32:41 GMT -5
The ending to the elimination match absolutely destroyed both the PPV itself and the white-hot momentum that they worked hard to build for the Nexus. It's a shame that SuperCena can't ever just lose, even with Nexus cheating their balls off against him. That is literally the worst ending to a major PPV since Starrcade '97. It's a shame because that was otherwise looking like a great show and an instant Blu Ray purchase for me. Oh cry more! They are not destroyed over 1 damn loss. Pretty sure I wasn't crying. It's a very legit criticism. They built Nexus up as being this "threat" (although I don't know who or what their presence was threatening) and they were basically playing catch up for the entire match before SuperCena destroyed them even after the DDT onto the exposed floor. It would have been huge for them to cleanly win this match. Just think if Hall and Nash showed up, and at Bash at the Beach they're winning, Hogan comes in and legdrops the hell out of Savage, and then Sting cleans house and beats Hogan by submission. That's how bad this booking was.
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Post by Rule 30 on Aug 15, 2010 22:33:03 GMT -5
Did anyone notice no one gives a damn about Undertaker's return? Well it wasn't really a surprise, I mean it was obvious he would return at some point, we had no idea that Danielson would return.Until 15 minutes before the match.
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Post by J12 on Aug 15, 2010 22:34:33 GMT -5
I've definitely got some mixed feelings about this show, let's take a look...
Kingston/Ziggler was an enjoyable opener. While I would have preferred a six pack challenge to get some other guys involved in the Pay-Per-View, I know that they were really pushing this Kofi/Dolph feud and obviously they had bigger things in mind by having Nexus make a statement right off the bat. I liked the fact that we finally saw some interaction between Nexus and Smackdown. It's almost like all this time they've just totally ignored the Friday night crew because they don't matter.
Diva's Championship match bored me to tears, and the finish was just awkward and uneventful. On the plus side, though, glad to see the belt go to Melina, and even happier to see it off Alicia Fox. Always good to see Lay-Cool, too.
Nothing special out of the 3-on-1, but nothing too horrible here. Good to see CM Punk back in action and I'm glad he at least had some solid offense against Big Show. No harm, no foul, short and to the point as it should have been.
So, up until this point, the show had lived up to my expectations - a whole lot of mediocrity. Things didn't feel like the second biggest Pay-Per-View of the year at all.
The Miz's promo was great, but in all honesty, I felt a little ripped off, and I didn't even pay $45 to watch this. We shouldn't be getting promos, especially fairly lengthy ones during a Pay-Per-View, let alone the second biggest of the year. I love The Miz just as much as the next guy, but this didn't sit very well with me.
WWE Championship match started off quite slow, but it had a methodical pace that I at least could find some appreciation for. Things picked up later on and it actually became fairly enjoyable. I wasn't big on the finish at all. Orton/Sheamus doesn't strike me as an intriguing enough match up to put into a long term program, and the disqualification finish all but guarantees at least one more match next month. Not to mention, with it being the second biggest event of the year (and the World Title match being, pound for pound, a joke), a DQ finish here just felt really...cheap.
I will say, truthfully, I was somewhat entertained by the Mysterio/Kane match. I thought they made the most of it and I applaud them both for doing so. That doesn't change the fact that I found this whole angle to be one of the least interesting storylines WWE has carried out in years. I didn't care about the match. I didn't care who won. I didn't care that The Undertaker was obviously going to show up and go after Kane. It was so predictable that it hurt. I'm just glad this portion of the story is over, and we can now get to the inevitable.
Which brings me to another huge disappointment - the realization that things are going to get worse on Smackdown before they get any better. Instead of focusing on the wealth of incredible talent that is wallowing away on that show, they're going to focus all their efforts and energy on a program that has been done to death and has absolutely no reason to be a title program. It's a slap in the face to the talent that deserves to be competing for that Championship.
Finally, we come to the main event. After The Miz confirmed he would be a part of the team, I fully expected him to be ambushed before the match began. Once that didn't happen, and he was introduced last, I knew something was up.
I'll be honest, I was completely expecting Triple H. Despite all better judgment knowing he was injured, I thought for sure it was going to be another Cena episode a la Royal Rumble '08. I was absolutely floored when Cena announced Daniel Bryan. It was as big a shock to me as the initial Nexus attack two months ago.
That being said, I suppose it's time for the majority of us to eat our words. The vast majority of the boards, myself included, concluded that there was no way in hell Daniel Bryan would return tonight, and we were dead wrong. It was played beautifully and even if the crowd wasn't quite as excited as WWE probably hoped, it was a great swerve.
However, that doesn't mean for a second that we should all now assume that the whole thing was a work. I still believe, wholeheartedly that he was fired. The way the was written off was too non-chalant and too casual to have been anything else. WWE let the situation blow over, let Danielson take some indy bookings, and brought him back it. Was it probably arranged on June 12th? I don't doubt it. But in no way do I think Bryan Danielson. has been an employee of WWE for the entirety of these past two months.
As far as the match goes - I enjoyed it. Bryan's quick elimination was a mark out moment for me, it really set the tone and the atmosphere and set the pace for the entire match-up.
Make no mistake about it, an incredible story was told in the ring during that thirty minutes, and the members of Nexus should be incredibly proud of themselves for participating in, and helping to make this match one of the most lively and atmospheric bouts since the Survivor Series '01 WWE vs. Alliance battle. I couldn't help but think of it throughout the night, and I loved it, because I was a sucker for all things WWE in 2001.
A couple of things got on my nerves, though. I loved the intensity Jericho showed throughout the match, and I was upset by the way they chose to have he and Edge go out. I know it set up the beat down of John Cena, but after so much back and forth between Edge and Jericho, I didn't expect the dissension and I could have done without it. They didn't need to magically become face tomorrow, but I would have liked to have seen unity throughout team WWE tonight, especially with the finish.
The Miz eliminating Daniel Bryan was perfect. I thought for sure Bryan would end up turning on Cena once it came down to the final four, but I was pleasantly surprised to see The Miz. This sets up a great program that I'm absolutely thrilled to see. The Miz can fine tune his skills and prepare for the main event while ultimately giving Daniel Bryan his first big break and passing the U.S. Championship on to him. This is going to be the feud to watch in the coming weeks on Raw.
Team WWE winning (especially in the way that they did) is sure to cause mass commotion and disgust around here, and I understand why. A great angle was essentially stopped dead in it's tracks and negated by Superman John Cena. The DDT on the concrete was too much. Had that not happened, it would have been believable. Cena was rested the entire match, but the DDT, and the way it was sold both by Cena and by Cole, King and Striker, really made the Nexus, particularly Wade Barrett, look incredibly weak. After all of these beat downs, everything The Nexus said and did over the last two months, even after being turned on by his own team mates, John Cena single handedly defeated what we were to view as the most powerful group in WWE history.
This is bittersweet to me. The Nexus, as we know it, is done. Their credibility is shot. At the same time, how long could this have gone on doing the same thing over and over? Perhaps it was best to quit while they were ahead, and I think that's why they may have done.
Night of Champions should have been the warning sign to all of us. We blatantly ignored the fact that a Pay-Per-View designed strictly for title defenses would have no room for The Nexus.
It's certainly going to be interesting to see where things go from here.
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Post by spreedom8 on Aug 15, 2010 22:35:19 GMT -5
Did anyone notice no one gives a damn about Undertaker's return? It's because the Undertaker's been doing the same "win huge match at Wrestlemania, disappear for 3 months, reappear and immediately insert self into World title scene" schtick for 6 years. On top of that lame pattern, he was also very obviously coming back tonight. 'Taker sucks... he needs to retire.
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Post by StingerSplash on Aug 15, 2010 22:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by spreedom8 on Aug 15, 2010 22:41:31 GMT -5
However, that doesn't mean for a second that we should all now assume that the whole thing was a work. I still believe, wholeheartedly that he was fired. The way the was written off was too non-chalant and too casual to have been anything else. WWE let the situation blow over, let Danielson take some indy bookings, and brought him back it. Was it probably arranged on June 12th? I don't doubt it. But in no way do I think Bryan Danielson. has been an employee of WWE for the entirety of these past two months. As far as the match goes - I enjoyed it. Bryan's quick elimination was a mark out moment for me, it really set the tone and the atmosphere and set the pace for the entire match-up. Make no mistake about it, an incredible story was told in the ring during that thirty minutes, and the members of Nexus should be incredibly proud of themselves for participating in, and helping to make this match one of the most lively and atmospheric bouts since the Survivor Series '01 WWE vs. Alliance battle. I couldn't help but think of it throughout the night, and I loved it, because I was a sucker for all things WWE in 2001. A couple of things got on my nerves, though. I loved the intensity Jericho showed throughout the match, and I was upset by the way they chose to have he and Edge go out. I know it set up the beat down of John Cena, but after so much back and forth between Edge and Jericho, I didn't expect the dissension and I could have done without it. They didn't need to magically become face tomorrow, but I would have liked to have seen unity throughout team WWE tonight, especially with the finish. The Miz eliminating Daniel Bryan was perfect. I thought for sure Bryan would end up turning on Cena once it came down to the final four, but I was pleasantly surprised to see The Miz. This sets up a great program that I'm absolutely thrilled to see. The Miz can fine tune his skills and prepare for the main event while ultimately giving Daniel Bryan his first big break and passing the U.S. Championship on to him. This is going to be the feud to watch in the coming weeks on Raw. Team WWE winning (especially in the way that they did) is sure to cause mass commotion and disgust around here, and I understand why. A great angle was essentially stopped dead in it's tracks and negated by Superman John Cena. The DDT on the concrete was too much. Had that not happened, it would have been believable. Cena was rested the entire match, but the DDT, and the way it was sold both by Cena and by Cole, King and Striker, really made the Nexus, particularly Wade Barrett, look incredibly weak. After all of these beat downs, everything The Nexus said and did over the last two months, even after being turned on by his own team mates, John Cena single handedly defeated what we were to view as the most powerful group in WWE history. This is bittersweet to me. The Nexus, as we know it, is done. Their credibility is shot. At the same time, how long could this have gone on doing the same thing over and over? Perhaps it was best to quit while they were ahead, and I think that's why they may have done. Night of Champions should have been the warning sign to all of us. We blatantly ignored the fact that a Pay-Per-View designed strictly for title defenses would have no room for The Nexus. I definitely would have had Orton go over Sheamus, then defend against Barrett at NOC. Barrett could have had a ton of momentum if he'd cleanly (or by any means necessary) pinned Cena tonight. Shame...
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Post by J12 on Aug 15, 2010 22:44:20 GMT -5
What exactly did that now infamous WWE.com article say about Bryan? I'm actually incredibly glad I wasn't on the boards during the show, as I nearly pissed myself in shock.
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Post by mattoriginal on Aug 15, 2010 22:45:13 GMT -5
Nexus sells a lot of merch..I doubt that it's over.
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 15, 2010 22:50:54 GMT -5
What exactly did that now infamous WWE.com article say about Bryan? I'm actually incredibly glad I wasn't on the boards during the show, as I nearly pissed myself in shock. It said everything that happend lol. Miz comes out, Cena stops him and says we have a better idea for a replacement since you took your time. Basically a spoiler, when the show was live. it was someone inside the WWE I think.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 15, 2010 22:54:42 GMT -5
I'm glad I wasn't online while I was watching SummerSlam, it was a complete and total surprise to me.
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Post by MikeMillenium on Aug 15, 2010 22:58:27 GMT -5
Oh cry more! They are not destroyed over 1 damn loss. Pretty sure I wasn't crying. It's a very legit criticism. They built Nexus up as being this "threat" (although I don't know who or what their presence was threatening) and they were basically playing catch up for the entire match before SuperCena destroyed them even after the DDT onto the exposed floor. It would have been huge for them to cleanly win this match. Just think if Hall and Nash showed up, and at Bash at the Beach they're winning, Hogan comes in and legdrops the hell out of Savage, and then Sting cleans house and beats Hogan by submission. That's how bad this booking was. Yeah NWO would've been destroyed, but the Nexus has been around a lot longer than 10-15 minutes. Can't compare the two like it's concrete evidence. Barrett didn't tap out to a wristlock. It was John Cena's STF, the same STF that has made HHH, Edge, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho tap out on multiple occasions. The WWE can easily book the Nexus getting retribution if they choose so. Or they can end the group and it would be the end of Nexus. It depends on how WWE decides to book it. Tonight did not make them look weak at all in my opinion.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Aug 15, 2010 23:00:00 GMT -5
tonight i placed my finger on what the Nexus remind me of.
default create-a-wrestlers.
i care so little about them.
also, comparing this situation to "what if the nWo got schooled" is ridiculous. the nWo were established stars like Hall, Nash and Hogan. the Nexus are a bunch of essentially nobodys who were on a show about rookies competing for a contract. completely different.
i was actually completely expecting the Nexus to get destroyed this match, they put up more of a fight than i expected.
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Post by spreedom8 on Aug 15, 2010 23:03:21 GMT -5
Pretty sure I wasn't crying. It's a very legit criticism. They built Nexus up as being this "threat" (although I don't know who or what their presence was threatening) and they were basically playing catch up for the entire match before SuperCena destroyed them even after the DDT onto the exposed floor. It would have been huge for them to cleanly win this match. Just think if Hall and Nash showed up, and at Bash at the Beach they're winning, Hogan comes in and legdrops the hell out of Savage, and then Sting cleans house and beats Hogan by submission. That's how bad this booking was. Yeah NWO would've been destroyed, but the Nexus has been around a lot longer than 10-15 minutes. Can't compare the two like it's concrete evidence. Barrett didn't tap out to a wristlock. It was John Cena's STF, the same STF that has made HHH, Edge, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho tap out on multiple occasions. The WWE can easily book the Nexus getting retribution if they choose so. Or they can end the group and it would be the end of Nexus. It depends on how WWE decides to book it. Tonight did not make them look weak at all in my opinion. Hall and Nash were around for like 6 weeks before their first match... plus, they had instant credibility because they were already established main event stars. The Nexus has pretty much nothing to show anymore except a win over Mark Henry. I agree that they can eventually regain their credbility, but it's going to take close to flawless booking of them.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 15, 2010 23:03:26 GMT -5
Someone give me a complete run down of what happen tonight. Thanks.
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Post by Gazza on Aug 15, 2010 23:04:09 GMT -5
tonight i placed my finger on what the Nexus remind me of. default create-a-wrestlers. I Lol'd
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 15, 2010 23:05:00 GMT -5
Someone give me a complete run down of what happen tonight. Thanks. Daniel Bryan is BACK!!! ;D
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 15, 2010 23:06:35 GMT -5
Someone give me a complete run down of what happen tonight. Thanks. Daniel Bryan is BACK!!! ;D baw gawd
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 15, 2010 23:09:27 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan is BACK!!! ;D baw gawd Indeed!
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 15, 2010 23:12:27 GMT -5
Punk's chest tat is going to take a bit of getting used to.
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