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Reminder from Jack SpecificFrom now on if anyone decides to post asking for illegal streams or actually posting them here you will be permanently banned and deleted from here. Don't do it. It's against the TOS that you agreed upon signing up here, and furthermore it's illegal. Thanks, JS Official Theme Song, for TNA No Surrender 2010Song: "It's On!" Artist: HELLYEAH Album: Stampedewww.hellyeahband.com/THESE MEN ARE BORN FIGHTERS, DESTINED FOR GREATNESS. ON SEPTEMBER FIFTH, FOUR WILL BATTLE, TO DETERMINE WHO WILL STAND FACE TO FACE ON TNA'S BIGGEST STAGE OF THEM ALL. WHICH TWO WILL SURVIVE?At "The Whole F'N Show" edition of TNA iMPACT!, Abyss slaughtered Rob Van Dam. Leaving the champion hospitalized and unable to remain TNA World Heavyweight Champion. The tournament was set and it's down to the final four. With the winners facing off at this year's Bound For Glory, for the TNA Championship... which man will leave Daytona Beach, the NEW TNA World Heavyweight Champion?SEMI-FINALS OF THE TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT:FOR THE FIRST TIME, ON PAY-PER-VIEW!Singles MatchTHE GRUDGE CONTINUESSingles MatchTNA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPGEN ME'S BIG OPPORTUNITYTag Team MatchImportant Update: Due to a personal issue, London Brawling (Wolfe & Magnus) will not be at tonight's No Surrender PPV. However, based on their strong showing in a recent non-title match on iMPACT!, Generation Me will now get a shot at the gold against the Machineguns tonight on PPV!I QUIT MATCHSingles MatchTNA X-DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIPWILL SABU BRING THE GOLD TO EV2.0?Singles MatchUNLIKELY PARTNERSTag Team MatchSting & Kevin Nash vs. Jeff Jarrett & Samoa JoeFALLS COUNT ANYWHERESingles MatchKNOCKOUTS GRUDGE MATCHSingles MatchQuick match results: The Motor City Machine Guns defeat Generation Me, after "Skulls and Bones", to retain the TNA World Tag Team Championship. After the match: Generation Me attack The Motor City Machine Guns, focusing on Alex Shelley's injured neck.
Douglas Williams defeats Sabu, after the official's back was turned and Williams laid out Sabu with the X-Division title.
Velvet Sky defeats Madison Rayne, after a DDT.
Abyss defeats Rhino in a Falls Count Anywhere, after the "Black Hole Slam".
Jeff Jarrett & Samoa Joe defeat Kevin Nash & Sting, when Joe choked out Sting with the "Coquina Clutch".
AJ Styles defeats Tommy Dreamer in an I Quit Match, after driving a fork into the eye of Dreamer.
Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy faught to a "No Contest". The original 20 minute time limit expired. Eric Bischoff and Dixie Carter added 5 more minutes to the clock. Hardy and Angle exceeded that additional 5 minutes. Bischoff and Carter then decided there MUST be a winner and added another 5 minutes. Kurt and Jeff brawled again, with Angle getting busted open. The 5 minutes expired again, except this time Angle was cut too deeply to continue. Eric Bischoff then officially called the match a "No Contest".
Mr. Anderson defeats D'Angelo Dinero, after the "Mic Check", to advance into the Finals of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship tournament at Bound For Glory!All of this and more, live on Pay-Per-View. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------As always guys, keep this thread spoiler free. If you'd like to discuss the card before it's announced on TNA iMPACT! or on TNAwrestling.com, feel free to do so in the WrestlingFigs "Spoiler Room" board on the forums. Also, keep this thread clean of spam, fights and discussion of ANY and ALL nudity. I don't feel like having to clean this thread and send out warnings to admins. Thanks a lot guys. Most importantly, though... have fun! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Looking forward to Angle/Hardy, but I feel we've seen Anderson/Dinero too many times now. Especially since the 8 Card Stud came down to those two. Either way, we all know Angle will beat Hardy to make it to Bound For Glory. My only complaint is... he's either facing Anderson, for the 13th time, or Dinero. Who shouldn't be in the main event of Bound For Glory. Hell, neither Dinero OR Anderson should be in the main event of TNA's biggest show. Really hoping the under card for this show is good, which I believe it had potential. Really hoping to see who the Guns' new challengers will be and possibly Williams dropping the gold to someone like Shannon. - Triple S
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 20, 2010 13:00:31 GMT -5
Im guessing
TBP vs Madison/Biker Chick Fortune vs EV2 MCMG vs Magnus/Wolfe
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Post by eddie eddie on Aug 20, 2010 18:46:00 GMT -5
angle vs. hardy is looking very appealing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2010 7:55:46 GMT -5
Angle vs Hardy could be good, as Angle always refuses to have a bad match. Will have to see what else is added as it's looking meh at the moment.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 21, 2010 21:27:09 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised they are going with Angle/Hardy at No Surrender. Considering they are 2 of the biggest stars you have AND the fact that neither Anderson or Pope are going to add to a "big match" feel at BFG......I would have gone with Angle/Pope and Hardy/Anderson for No Surrender. I think its a given that the belt is going on Angle. So put Angle over on Pope, but keep it dramatic. It will help elevate Pope, cuz as far as I am concerned he has lost a lot of steam since returning. And then put Hardy over Anderson. You can build this match as 2 friends battling it out. If TNA wants to turn Anderson heel.......this could be your chance. If not....of course TNA will tease the whole "can you trust Anderson" thing anyway. Then 2 of TNA's biggest stars....quite possibly the 2 biggest, face off at their signature PPV in the finals as babyface vs. babyface, 1st time PPV meeting for the big blow off. Angle goes over, claims the title and reigns supreme. Jeff loses nothing, as he lost in the finals of the title tournament against the man that is considered as the greatest wrestler today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2010 22:03:28 GMT -5
I think its a given that the belt is going on Angle. So put Angle over on Pope, but keep it dramatic. My only problem with that is Kennedy already lost the blow off match to the Angle feud, and Pope has already lost once to Angle since returning. I don't want either of them losing again to Angle, at least not until BFG.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 21, 2010 23:06:32 GMT -5
I think its a given that the belt is going on Angle. So put Angle over on Pope, but keep it dramatic. My only problem with that is Kennedy already lost the blow off match to the Angle feud, and Pope has already lost once to Angle since returning. I don't want either of them losing again to Angle, at least not until BFG. But then your BFG main event suffers big time. No one is going to buy that Anderson or Pope is beating Angle at the biggest ppv of the year. Why put the much bigger matchup on ppv the month before when you could clearly have it the next month? Honestly, I wouldnt havent Pope gone over Morgan. I would have had Morgan go over Pope and then face Angle at No Surrender.....Hardy vs. Anderson and then Angle vs. Hardy at BFG.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 21, 2010 23:17:04 GMT -5
My only problem with that is Kennedy already lost the blow off match to the Angle feud, and Pope has already lost once to Angle since returning. I don't want either of them losing again to Angle, at least not until BFG. But then your BFG main event suffers big time. No one is going to buy that Anderson or Pope is beating Angle at the biggest ppv of the year. Why put the much bigger matchup on ppv the month before when you could clearly have it the next month? Honestly, I wouldnt havent Pope gone over Morgan. I would have had Morgan go over Pope and then face Angle at No Surrender.....Hardy vs. Anderson and then Angle vs. Hardy at BFG. I don't see how you can say no one will buy that Anderson nor Pope could beat Angle at BFG. Anderson has already beaten Angle before so in the context of kayfabe, it's possible he could. Anderson has time and time again stated "Any man can be beaten, at anytime". So why not? We know that The Undertaker's streak won't end, yet he's still put in the main event matches at "Wrestlemania". It's the same thing. If you build it up enough, it's believable. Jeff Hardy shouldn't touch the main event (nor world title) at Bound for Glory with a ten foot pole. I don't care how over he is, he still has his drug charges pending so to put him in the main event, would be no different than putting Anderson nor Pope in there. Everyone and their mother knows Hardy won't get the belt as long as his charges are still pending. Atleast Pope/Anderson IS possible unlike Hardy which is pretty much impossible.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 21, 2010 23:44:53 GMT -5
Hardy/Angle shouldve been the final.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 21, 2010 23:51:46 GMT -5
Hardy/Angle shouldve been the final. Why though? There is zero reason for that to be the main event of Bound for Glory other than the fact it's a major match. It's also a very predictable match (more so than Angle/Anderson or Angle/Pope) because not only do you add in the fact that they are pushing the "If Angle loses... he'll retire" angle, Hardy also still has his legal troubles. It would be stupid to put Hardy/Angle in the main event of "Bound for Glory" (or Hardy period, honestly) because it would be way to predictable. The whole "If I lose... I'll retire" thing can easily be worked around and built in such a way that it's not predictable but you can't get around legal problems. That's the thing.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 22, 2010 0:03:08 GMT -5
This tournament is obvious though, Angle will win.
Atleast give us a match that we havent seen before on ppv at their biggest ppv
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 22, 2010 2:46:30 GMT -5
This tournament is obvious though, Angle will win. Atleast give us a match that we havent seen before on ppv at their biggest ppv It needs to be Angle vs. Anderson though so they can spin it into a Face vs. Tweener match. Anderson could easily pull off the twiner role (like he has been) which would work a whole lot better than Hardy/Angle. The fact is, Hardy vs. Angle would be ONE HUNDRED percent more predictable than Angle vs. Anderson/Pope because (like I have explained) nobody is going to buy that Hardy will get the strap with his charges pending. It's no secret that Angle has tossed around retirement for awhile now and with him not having that long left on his TNA deal, it's believable that he could lose and retire. TNA already gets enough heat from fans because of the fact they're using Hardy, how crappy will TNA look if they put Hardy in the main event of their biggest show with his current situation? It would make them look horrible.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 22, 2010 4:07:33 GMT -5
The backlash tna would get from angle doing doing the top 10 and this tournament, just to lose and retire, would be omg.
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Post by Judge Frollo on Aug 22, 2010 8:35:28 GMT -5
Doing Angle/Hardy at this show isn't the worst idea in the world. Depending on what all they book for BFG, this way they can attempt to pop two buyrates instead of just one.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 22, 2010 15:31:54 GMT -5
But then your BFG main event suffers big time. No one is going to buy that Anderson or Pope is beating Angle at the biggest ppv of the year. Why put the much bigger matchup on ppv the month before when you could clearly have it the next month? Honestly, I wouldnt havent Pope gone over Morgan. I would have had Morgan go over Pope and then face Angle at No Surrender.....Hardy vs. Anderson and then Angle vs. Hardy at BFG. I don't see how you can say no one will buy that Anderson nor Pope could beat Angle at BFG. Anderson has already beaten Angle before so in the context of kayfabe, it's possible he could. Anderson has time and time again stated "Any man can be beaten, at anytime". So why not? We know that The Undertaker's streak won't end, yet he's still put in the main event matches at "Wrestlemania". It's the same thing. If you build it up enough, it's believable. Jeff Hardy shouldn't touch the main event (nor world title) at Bound for Glory with a ten foot pole. I don't care how over he is, he still has his drug charges pending so to put him in the main event, would be no different than putting Anderson nor Pope in there. Everyone and their mother knows Hardy won't get the belt as long as his charges are still pending. Atleast Pope/Anderson IS possible unlike Hardy which is pretty much impossible. Wait, just b/c Anderson beat Angle before means nothing. I mean Brooklyn Brawler beat HHH before.....doesnt mean I want Brawler facing HHH in the main event at WM....all in the context of kayfabe. I'm not gonna kayfabe buy the idea that Anderson or Pope is on the level with Angle. Furthermore, at the biggest ppv of the year.....I want a big time main event. Right now....Anderson nor Pope provide that. In fact, there are very few names that TNA has that would provide it. You say you dont believe the UT's streak will end? I dont believe that. I could easily see someone defeating UT at WM. I dont believe he will run it undefeated. You talk about Jeff's drug charges.....but how is that affect the context of kayfabe? We're either talking kayfabe or we are not. Saying people wont buy Jeff winning b/c of his drug charges is irrelevant to kayfabe. You and I know Jeff aint getting the belt with his drug charges pending.....doesnt mean that 11yr old who still believes in the kayfabe world isnt going to believe it. Or the parent who isnt that into wrestling to follow internet news and rumors. And to say Pope/Anderson is possible to win the title at BFG is absurd. Neither has been built big enough in the land of kayfabe to warrant being on the biggest stage of TNA and defeating one of TNA's biggest stars....one of WRESTLING'S biggest stars. Out of the 4 people left, the only 2 that make ANY sense is Angle/Hardy. I am basing this off of star power and the ppv it will headline. If this was all culminating at No Surrender, then you have an argument. Then you can say....well, we will go with Angle/Anderson or Angle/Pope b/c of this...this or this. Honestly, I think the whole vacate the title and then tournament thing was a bad idea in the first place. I would have just had RVD put someone else over or better yet...manage his dates properly....so you can have him ready for BFG.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 22, 2010 15:59:53 GMT -5
I don't see how you can say no one will buy that Anderson nor Pope could beat Angle at BFG. Anderson has already beaten Angle before so in the context of kayfabe, it's possible he could. Anderson has time and time again stated "Any man can be beaten, at anytime". So why not? We know that The Undertaker's streak won't end, yet he's still put in the main event matches at "Wrestlemania". It's the same thing. If you build it up enough, it's believable. Jeff Hardy shouldn't touch the main event (nor world title) at Bound for Glory with a ten foot pole. I don't care how over he is, he still has his drug charges pending so to put him in the main event, would be no different than putting Anderson nor Pope in there. Everyone and their mother knows Hardy won't get the belt as long as his charges are still pending. Atleast Pope/Anderson IS possible unlike Hardy which is pretty much impossible. Wait, just b/c Anderson beat Angle before means nothing. I mean Brooklyn Brawler beat HHH before.....doesnt mean I want Brawler facing HHH in the main event at WM....all in the context of kayfabe. I'm not gonna kayfabe buy the idea that Anderson or Pope is on the level with Angle. Furthermore, at the biggest ppv of the year.....I want a big time main event. Right now....Anderson nor Pope provide that. In fact, there are very few names that TNA has that would provide it. You say you dont believe the UT's streak will end? I dont believe that. I could easily see someone defeating UT at WM. I dont believe he will run it undefeated. You talk about Jeff's drug charges.....but how is that affect the context of kayfabe? We're either talking kayfabe or we are not. Saying people wont buy Jeff winning b/c of his drug charges is irrelevant to kayfabe. You and I know Jeff aint getting the belt with his drug charges pending.....doesnt mean that 11yr old who still believes in the kayfabe world isnt going to believe it. Or the parent who isnt that into wrestling to follow internet news and rumors. And to say Pope/Anderson is possible to win the title at BFG is absurd. Neither has been built big enough in the land of kayfabe to warrant being on the biggest stage of TNA and defeating one of TNA's biggest stars....one of WRESTLING'S biggest stars. Out of the 4 people left, the only 2 that make ANY sense is Angle/Hardy. I am basing this off of star power and the ppv it will headline. If this was all culminating at No Surrender, then you have an argument. Then you can say....well, we will go with Angle/Anderson or Angle/Pope b/c of this...this or this. Honestly, I think the whole vacate the title and then tournament thing was a bad idea in the first place. I would have just had RVD put someone else over or better yet...manage his dates properly....so you can have him ready for BFG. I see your point, but the main problem with your point I have is your claims that Anderson/Dinero wouldn't be taken seriously in the main event of BFG. That's silly because both have been built up greatly. You're wanting to rely on name value to which people bash TNA for. It's the reason Sting main evented "Bound for Glory" for three years. He was the, um, attraction of the show but it really did nothing for TNA. They went to California where it was hyped up as the "curtain call" for Sting and did only 2,500 fans. It's obvious riding on "name value" to sell pay-per-views, is no longer working for TNA. They need to (and are) build a great storyline for the main event which there would be no story behind Angle/Hardy for Bound for Glory. They can't tease a Hardy heel turn because he's that over, it's a lot easier to go into Bound for Glory teasing and pushing Anderson as a heel/tweener than it is to tease Hardy as a heel. Anderson/Angle already has a story behind them from their past while Angle/Hardy would have to have a storyline built up in three-four weeks, which wouldn't work that well. Hardy/Angle would be a great option (as bad as I don't want to have to see a Jeff Hardy title match live, lol) if they didn't have "No Surrender". What I mean is, if they didn't have a September pay-per-view and finished off the semi-finals on iMPACT. They would have more time to build up a storyline but within the three weeks they have to build it up, it needs to be Angle/Anderson. They already have the backstory (their feud earlier this year) and if they add some new flavor to that, it'll be great. Plus, who's to say Hardy/Angle doesn't have a time limit draw or something to that extent? They could easily make it a three-way dance at "Bound for Glory". I'm not saying you're wrong nor am I saying I'm right. I just don't think in the time-frame they have, Hardy would be the right call. Anderson and Angle both are over (just as much as Hardy) so they could be a fine main event.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 22, 2010 16:34:19 GMT -5
Wait, just b/c Anderson beat Angle before means nothing. I mean Brooklyn Brawler beat HHH before.....doesnt mean I want Brawler facing HHH in the main event at WM....all in the context of kayfabe. I'm not gonna kayfabe buy the idea that Anderson or Pope is on the level with Angle. Furthermore, at the biggest ppv of the year.....I want a big time main event. Right now....Anderson nor Pope provide that. In fact, there are very few names that TNA has that would provide it. You say you dont believe the UT's streak will end? I dont believe that. I could easily see someone defeating UT at WM. I dont believe he will run it undefeated. You talk about Jeff's drug charges.....but how is that affect the context of kayfabe? We're either talking kayfabe or we are not. Saying people wont buy Jeff winning b/c of his drug charges is irrelevant to kayfabe. You and I know Jeff aint getting the belt with his drug charges pending.....doesnt mean that 11yr old who still believes in the kayfabe world isnt going to believe it. Or the parent who isnt that into wrestling to follow internet news and rumors. And to say Pope/Anderson is possible to win the title at BFG is absurd. Neither has been built big enough in the land of kayfabe to warrant being on the biggest stage of TNA and defeating one of TNA's biggest stars....one of WRESTLING'S biggest stars. Out of the 4 people left, the only 2 that make ANY sense is Angle/Hardy. I am basing this off of star power and the ppv it will headline. If this was all culminating at No Surrender, then you have an argument. Then you can say....well, we will go with Angle/Anderson or Angle/Pope b/c of this...this or this. Honestly, I think the whole vacate the title and then tournament thing was a bad idea in the first place. I would have just had RVD put someone else over or better yet...manage his dates properly....so you can have him ready for BFG. I see your point, but the main problem with your point I have is your claims that Anderson/Dinero wouldn't be taken seriously in the main event of BFG. That's silly because both have been built up greatly. You're wanting to rely on name value to which people bash TNA for. It's the reason Sting main evented "Bound for Glory" for three years. He was the, um, attraction of the show but it really did nothing for TNA. They went to California where it was hyped up as the "curtain call" for Sting and did only 2,500 fans. It's obvious riding on "name value" to sell pay-per-views, is no longer working for TNA. They need to (and are) build a great storyline for the main event which there would be no story behind Angle/Hardy for Bound for Glory. They can't tease a Hardy heel turn because he's that over, it's a lot easier to go into Bound for Glory teasing and pushing Anderson as a heel/tweener than it is to tease Hardy as a heel. Anderson/Angle already has a story behind them from their past while Angle/Hardy would have to have a storyline built up in three-four weeks, which wouldn't work that well. Hardy/Angle would be a great option (as bad as I don't want to have to see a Jeff Hardy title match live, lol) if they didn't have "No Surrender". What I mean is, if they didn't have a September pay-per-view and finished off the semi-finals on iMPACT. They would have more time to build up a storyline but within the three weeks they have to build it up, it needs to be Angle/Anderson. They already have the backstory (their feud earlier this year) and if they add some new flavor to that, it'll be great. Plus, who's to say Hardy/Angle doesn't have a time limit draw or something to that extent? They could easily make it a three-way dance at "Bound for Glory". I'm not saying you're wrong nor am I saying I'm right. I just don't think in the time-frame they have, Hardy would be the right call. Anderson and Angle both are over (just as much as Hardy) so they could be a fine main event. I dont believe Anderson nor Pope have been built greatly, especially Pope. Anderson has been floating around. His biggest story is this "I love Jeff Hardy" thing. Pope WAS built up, then got injured and they havent crapwith him since. I agree not to rely on name value. However, when you havent built anything else and you are going to the biggest PPV of the year.....then you must fall back on that old way of doing things. I really had no issues with Sting main eventing BFG 3 years in a row. Sting is one of those names that is established and can marquee that ppv. Saying it only drew 2500 people makes it seem like that is weak based on TNA's standards. TNA took their product out west, which they had not done before, promoted it as "Sting's last match", which we all knew wasnt true and drew 2500 people. I'm not saying its great....but taking your biggest ppv to an area you have not gone to before is not the smartest move. You are relying on the name "Sting" to do all your marketing. Sorry.......WWE is the only name that does its own marketing. You say there is no story behind Angle/Hardy. Ok, fine. There is NO story between any of the 4, outside of Hardy/Anderson....which is NOT headlining BFG. You build the story. The clash between 2 of wrestling's biggest stars. 2 of wrestling's most beloved fan favorites. The clash of 2 different styles....Angle's mat wrestling vs. Hardy's dare devil risk taking. My Example: 2 Men Will Enter BFG. 2 Of Wrestling's Biggest Stars. 2 Of Wrestling's Most Beloved Fan Favorites. 2 Different Styles..........1 Goal. 10-10-10. The story between Angle/Anderson is old and is mostly irrelevant to today's Mr. Anderson. It doesnt always have to be good vs. evil in order to make a great ppv. Sure....a 3 way could happen. I dont really like it, espeically for the BFG. But whatever. TNA has to believe they only have Jeff on loan for a small window. Whether that is 1 year or 2 years or whatever. Perhaps with his pending pregnancy, he may want to stay longer. But no one really believes we wont see Jeff finish up in WWE.
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Post by eddie eddie on Aug 22, 2010 16:39:47 GMT -5
they're gonna pull something out of their ass. there is no way we'll get Angle vs. Dinero or Anderson is gonna mainevent BFG. maybe a triple threat match with a returning RVD. something else.
and hopefully, Angle turns heel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2010 18:16:53 GMT -5
I agree with Eddie. Neither Angle/Anderson or Angle/Dinero are decent enough for BFG Main event. I can only hope that Samoa Joe kills (just like Janice did to RVD ) Dinero and/or Anderson. So he takes their place at BFG to face Kurt
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 22, 2010 18:32:24 GMT -5
How is it not decent enough to main event BFG? For the love of God, 2005 was set to be Jeff Jarrett vs. Kevin Nash!
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