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Post by ville on Aug 31, 2010 1:07:38 GMT -5
He needs to prove he really is the best. IF he beats Sonnen again he needs to fight GSP. I think he would beat Sonnen but faster and more his way but a fight with GSP, I'm pretty sure he would lose, GSP would LNP the out of him to be safe, and that does take a lot of skill to do so credit to GSP there but if GSP did LNP to get the win and not even try to finish the fight, I don't think that would end this P4P BS, it would make it worse with excuses out the ass for Silva.
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 31, 2010 1:10:21 GMT -5
He needs to prove he really is the best. IF he beats Sonnen again he needs to fight GSP. I think he would beat Sonnen but faster and more his way but a fight with GSP, I'm pretty sure he would lose, GSP would LNP the out of him to be safe, and that does take a lot of skill to do so credit to GSP there but if GSP did LNP to get the win and not even try to finish the fight, I don't think that would end this P4P BS, it would make it worse with excuses out the ass for Silva. LNP? Hahaha, wow. I think GSP is probably the last guy you should be blaming for "LNP". Did you not see him try to finish Dan Hardy on multiple occasions? GSP always tries to finish, grow up, kid. There are REAL LNP guys out there, and GSP isn't one of them. He's one of the most well-rounded guys ever and has the best wrestling in the sport.
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Post by ville on Aug 31, 2010 1:16:00 GMT -5
I think he would beat Sonnen but faster and more his way but a fight with GSP, I'm pretty sure he would lose, GSP would LNP the out of him to be safe, and that does take a lot of skill to do so credit to GSP there but if GSP did LNP to get the win and not even try to finish the fight, I don't think that would end this P4P BS, it would make it worse with excuses out the ass for Silva. LNP? Hahaha, wow. I think GSP is probably the last guy you should be blaming for "LNP". Did you not see him try to finish Dan Hardy on multiple occasions? GSP always tries to finish, grow up, kid. There are REAL LNP guys out there, and GSP isn't one of them. He's one of the most well-rounded guys ever and has the best wrestling in the sport. Yea I did see his fight with Hardy, I even talked crapto people who said he LNP in that fight in the thread we had for UFC 111, I've even said craplike, at least he try's to finish unlike Fitch, so yea. And I seriously think he would LNP against Silva for that fight.
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Post by 1992 on Aug 31, 2010 1:18:36 GMT -5
Lol, I took that personally and I do apologize for overreacting. *cough* But I'm just tough on my favorites, and Silva was on top of my list for a looong while before he started really slowing down. Which I'm not blaming on him, I just said on Facebook the other day regarding Penn's loss... It's ok. BJ is just slowing down. Losing proved one thing..he's a human being. People sometimes get to caught up in UFC/MMA and start to think they're like super heros, and they're not. One day...EVERYONE will lose.Of course Silva's gonna start losing SOME of his skill and charm after so many dozens of fights, but when he starts to REALLY stops impressing me, I'll call him on it, same as Shogun, Couture, Penn, GSP, Fedor, Bonnar, Florian...or any of my favorites. Sometimes I feel like his fans are just a bunch of "yes-men" who refuse to acknowledge when he fails to impress and try to bring up his past to cover for his present mistakes. Please note that was NOT directed at anyone in particular on here, just a general thought. I was rooting for Silva against Cote, Griffin...I was split, since Griffin is another fav. of mine, I walked away happy either way basically, against Maia, but I just studied up ALOT on Chael, and took his side after what Silva pulled at 112. I like Anderson Silva, I'm a fan, but I like to think that if I were a fight, my true fans wouldn't be raising me and praising me after a fight like his against Maia or Sonnen. I'd want to hear honest opinions, not just "Oh but he looked cool when he fought that one guy that one time so shut up!" I say what I say about Anderson Silva simply because I know he can do better and he owes it to himself and his legacy to show that if he IS winding down his career.
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 31, 2010 1:28:03 GMT -5
LNP? Hahaha, wow. I think GSP is probably the last guy you should be blaming for "LNP". Did you not see him try to finish Dan Hardy on multiple occasions? GSP always tries to finish, grow up, kid. There are REAL LNP guys out there, and GSP isn't one of them. He's one of the most well-rounded guys ever and has the best wrestling in the sport. Yea I did see his fight with Hardy, I even talked poop to people who said he LNP in that fight in the thread we had for UFC 111, I've even said poop like, at least he try's to finish unlike Fitch, so yea. And I seriously think he would LNP against Silva for that fight. Sonnen didn't need to LNP to win that fight and GSP is more confident in the top position than Sonnen is. Atleased GSP passes his opponents guard in order to get away from obvious submission attempts, which Sonnen DID NOT do.
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Post by 1992 on Aug 31, 2010 1:32:26 GMT -5
Sonnen has made a career out of choking in the midst of dominating top contenders from their guard. It's ridiculous how many times he's ed up in the middle of a great performance.
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Post by ville on Aug 31, 2010 1:36:00 GMT -5
Yea I did see his fight with Hardy, I even talked poop to people who said he LNP in that fight in the thread we had for UFC 111, I've even said poop like, at least he try's to finish unlike Fitch, so yea. And I seriously think he would LNP against Silva for that fight. Sonnen didn't need to LNP to win that fight and GSP is more confident in the top position than Sonnen is. Atleased GSP passes his opponents guard in order to get away from obvious submission attempts, which Sonnen DID NOT do. How did Sonnen get brought up in our argument? Why are we comparing GSP to Sonnen?
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 31, 2010 1:38:48 GMT -5
Sonnen didn't need to LNP to win that fight and GSP is more confident in the top position than Sonnen is. Atleased GSP passes his opponents guard in order to get away from obvious submission attempts, which Sonnen DID NOT do. How did Sonnen get brought up in our argument? Why are we comparing GSP to Sonnen? Has to do with the style in order to beat Silva. Sonnen had the right idea, but had no idea how to advance or come close to finishing. He does not pass the guys guard, GSP does.
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Post by ville on Aug 31, 2010 1:45:11 GMT -5
How did Sonnen get brought up in our argument? Why are we comparing GSP to Sonnen? Has to do with the style in order to beat Silva. Sonnen had the right idea, but had no idea how to advance or come close to finishing. He does not pass the guys guard, GSP does. Ahh, OK, I see it now, my bad.
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Post by K5 on Aug 31, 2010 14:04:20 GMT -5
i wanna see the rematch, but silva is free to resign whenever he wishes without judgment.
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Post by kimb0slic3 on Sept 7, 2010 10:53:21 GMT -5
Well I would love to see Sonnen/Silva again. I can't believe any Anderson Fans can brag about that win he got his ass handed to him for 4 rounds like wtf. Silva pulled out some luck just like lesner did with carwin.
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Post by sean™ on Sept 7, 2010 11:57:50 GMT -5
Well I would love to see Sonnen/Silva again. I can't believe any Anderson Fans can brag about that win he got his ass handed to him for 4 rounds like wtf. Silva pulled out some luck just like lesner did with carwin. I don't think anyone has bragged out Silva's win. And Lesnar didn't "pull out some luck". Carwin was gassed by the end of the first, Lesnar took him down, and submitted him. It would be one thing if Carwin had Lesnar on his back, and Lesnar got a kimura or something like Frank Mir. But Lesnar TOOK Carwin down, got to mount, and then submitted him. As far as Silva goes, the fact remains that the 29 shots that Silva managed to land did more damage then the over 250 that Sonnen landed. I'm not disagreeing with him losing the 4 rounds, but it's not like Sonnen was doing anything to actually finish the fight outside the first round. I felt like I was watching him trying to earn more points on UFC Undisputed 2010.
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Post by Sandy on Sept 7, 2010 16:48:40 GMT -5
haha...I swear I would bet money on kimb0slic3 and Mr. Old School being the same person...if not it is sad to know there are so many ignorant mma fans...
Silva got his ass kicked....yes.
..Silva won by submission..the one thing Chael always loses by..Silva came out in a f***ing gi. That should have been clue #1 that he wanted to end the fight by submission. And he did so. You can say whatever the f*** you want but besides GSP I don't think there is AS complete of a fighter as Anderson. Anderson has proved that he can win any and every way possible. Whether he toys around with a fighter like he did to Forrest, or if he comes back from losing 4 rounds and slaps on a submission like he did against Chael.
I can't wait for the rematch. It will certainly answer a lot of questions. Was Anderson really hurt or is Chael really that good? Either way I can't wait. Definitely the most intriguing rematch of this year imo.
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Post by kimb0slic3 on Sept 13, 2010 17:16:45 GMT -5
haha...I swear I would bet money on kimb0slic3 and Mr. Old School being the same person...if not it is sad to know there are so many ignorant mma fans... Silva got his ass kicked....yes. ..Silva won by submission..the one thing Chael always loses by..Silva came out in a f***ing gi. That should have been clue #1 that he wanted to end the fight by submission. And he did so. You can say whatever the f*** you want but besides GSP I don't think there is AS complete of a fighter as Anderson. Anderson has proved that he can win any and every way possible. Whether he toys around with a fighter like he did to Forrest, or if he comes back from losing 4 rounds and slaps on a submission like he did against Chael. I can't wait for the rematch. It will certainly answer a lot of questions. Was Anderson really hurt or is Chael really that good? Either way I can't wait. Definitely the most intriguing rematch of this year imo. coming from a bad trader... and if Chael weakness is subs he shoulda been more prepared.
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Post by sean™ on Sept 13, 2010 17:25:22 GMT -5
What the does him being a bad trader have to do with anything? I like how "Silva pulled out some luck", yet you have the amazing insight that if Chael's weekness is subs, he should have been more prepared. If Chael's weakness is submissions, and it is, and that's how he lost, how can it be "luck"?
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