If Anderson Silva retires tomorrow...

I think even after Silva loses, he won't be done. I could actually see it motivate him further. I think had he lost to Sonnen, he would reflect on his career, and come back better then ever (just like GSP).

mmmmm why does Anderson need to fight chael again to submit his legacy? he submitted him already.

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I find it very interesting that so many people seem to be in favor for a nessecary rematch between Silva and Sonnen, yet some of those same people wouldn't say the same about Lesnar and Carwin. Almost as if they just want to see Silva actually lose.

In my personal opinion, throw out the first 4 and 1/2 rounds, because the only thing that matters at the end of that fight was who won. And Chael, of all things, fell victim to the very thing he always falls victim to. He lost via submission in both his WEC title fight, as well as his UFC debut. That alone gives me enough reason to say "You had your 23 minute chance, couldn't capitalize, back of the line."

If anything, that fight proved that even when Silva is either hurt or simply out-matched, he can still overcome. No one got screwed or shafted, and it didn't doesn't matter one bit what any of those judges thought. At the end of the night, Silva found a way to win, which is the whole point of the sport. The whole point of competition to begin with.

If that's not a valid submission of a legacy, I don't know what is.

Last I checked, Chael said he would retire Silva, punch a whole in his face, and leave with 6 pounds of gold around his waist. Silva didn't retire, his face looked like he went jogging as opposed to being punched in the face for 23 minutes, and we all know who left the champion.

I'll give Chael all the credit in the world for being able to takedown Silva, and somewhat rock him. But the latter is the only thing he did that no one else has. Silva's been grounded before. Silva's been "ground and pounded" before. Silva's lost rounds before. Everything Chael did, he simply did longer than anyone else.

The fact of the matter is that Chael had 289 strikes, 3 takedowns, and 23 minutes of pure, completely controlled offense, and still couldn't beat an injured Anderson Silva.

Once again, I'm not saying there is any harm in doing an automatic rematch. I don't despute an automatic rematch, because I'm not the one that makes those decisions. If more fans of the UFC or MMA as a whole wanted to see James Toney vs Silva, and the UFC gave that to us, then I'd be happy to have a company that listens to the fans.

The issue I have is stating that in any way Chael Sonnen deserves a rematch.

I think all the questions that a rematch would answer are valid questions, and have great implications of this very topic. Was it really the injury that caused Silva's delay and discourse, or has Sonnen figured out the Spider's secret? And if Silva's reign as champ is truely coming to an end, where does he go from here? Is there more opportunities going back to LHW, or does he follow the fan's request of going after GSP?

If anything, the rematch will give us more insight as to Silva's future then any other fight would.

Proved nothing? . Proved he has a lot of heart and is a true champ, not many other fighters could take a beating like that and come out on a win, also if the Rib story is true, than even more credit because I've had two cracked Ribs and still have issues to this day. It ing hurts like Hell and hard to breath.



I agree, but people want Silva to lose. Why? IDK. Seriously, the one thing I always questioned about him was his heart, and now he proved he has A LOT. What else does he need to prove? Nothing.

Where did I say I just wanted him to lose?

This is the problem with Silva's "die-hard fans".

"Love him and call him GOAT or you're just a ridiculous hater who knows nothing."

Uhhh, no. Where was this "laser guided" dominance against Sonnen? Maia? Leites? No-where to be found.

1 out of his last 4 fights was truly impressive on Silva's part, and granted it was mind blowing, it doesn't negate that fact that he stopped impressing me when he fought Leites...then I thought, "It was just a off night...man he murdered Griffin.."

Then he pulled the Abu Dhabi sh*t, then Sonnen dominates him for 23 minutes.

Did Silva win all of those fight(Leites/Maia/Sonnen)? Yes? Did he look great doing it like everyone seems to believe? No, not at all. He barely squeaked out his win against Sonnen.

"But a win is a win!11!!!1"

I'd bet my life that is Silva beat Sonnen like a red-headed stepchild for 4 rounds, and Sonnen caught him with some crazy over-hand in the fifth and won and I argued that Sonnen had a bad knee, which is why he looked so bad, I'd be the laughing stock of this forum and EVERYONE would demand Silva/Sonnen II and call Sonnen's win a complete, Serra style fluke.

I'm a fan again of Silva's after he pulled out his triangle win, but I'm not gonna kiss his ass up and down like people seem to think I should.

BJ Penn is my all time favorite fight and has been for years, but I've been disgusted with him since Saturday. Fedor is my second favorite, and I still call him on his ignorance for rushing back into Werdum's guard. It happens, when a fighter isn't impressing me, I'll say it. Sorry, I'm a Silva fan too, but the OP asked a question and I'm giving my honest opinion on it. Sorry that conflicts with others.

I never said YOU wanted him to lose, I said PEOPLE, P-E-O-P-L-E, PEOPLE, you get that? I got nothing against your opinion. Yes he had some piss poor performances at UFC 97 and 112 maybe even 90 and yea he got dominated by Sonnen for Four and a half rounds but he pulled out an amazing win. Sonnen ed up and he lost and that's what happened, Silva ed up and he lost Four and a half rounds and that's what happened. As for this "laser guided dominance", he ed up Sonnen pretty good, did some really impressive things against Maia and Leites and even Côté, yes majority of those fights sucked but he did some really impressive crapin those fights.