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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 5:23:00 GMT -5
According to California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer George Dodd, Chael Sonnen has been notified that he failed post-fight drug screening following his loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117, which was held Aug. 7 at the Oracle Arena in Oakland, Calif. “[Sonnen] received his notice yesterday,” Dodd told Sherdog.com shortly after the Shane Mosley-Sergio Mora boxing match ended Saturday night in Los Angeles. In a conversation the day before, Dodd declined to comment on the situation, other than answering that all fighters from UFC 117 had passed drugs-of-abuse scans, but that the commission was still waiting on performance-enhancing drug screens from the event. Dodd did not state which banned substance was red-flagged, but with a clean drugs-of-abuse scan it is clear the positive test was for a performance-enhancing substance. The last major UFC banned-substance case in the state centered on UFC 73’s lightweight title match, which saw both competitors -- Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca -- test positive for PEDs. Both fighters were suspended for one year and fined, though Sherk appealed and had his suspension shortened to six months. Sonnen is staring at a long layoff if he elects not to appeal or is denied. He was scheduled to rematch Silva Feb. 6 in Las Vegas, but that fight may be delayed or scrapped in light of these allegations. Text messages to Sonnen went unreturned. His manager Matt Lindland told Sherdog.com that he was cornering a fighter on the East Coast and had no knowledge of the positive test results. Silva’s manager Ed Soares, who engaged in some heated exchanges via the media in the build up to the fight, was stunned when asked for his reaction. “If it’s true, I feel really bad for him,” said Soares. “I know he did it to himself but it is really sad, he put on such a great performance that night. It is just a shame it will be tarnished.”
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 19, 2010 5:57:27 GMT -5
Oh no...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 5:58:30 GMT -5
exactly what i said, a real blow if it's true.
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Post by BAD LUCK BRIAN on Sept 19, 2010 6:54:50 GMT -5
damn no rematch now
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 19, 2010 7:43:44 GMT -5
Damn, you are probably right. Can you imagine if he would've beat Silva for the belt?? He would've been stripped...This sucks SO bad for Sonnen right now...
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 19, 2010 8:31:50 GMT -5
Damn, you are probably right. Can you imagine if he would've beat Silva for the belt?? He would've been stripped...This sucks SO bad for Sonnen right now... Maybe he shouldn't have been shit-talking, saying Carwin was on roids.
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Post by PdW2kX on Sept 19, 2010 8:50:30 GMT -5
I know this'll probably be a long response, but this is the write-up I did of it on fighters.com. It's not the whole article, just my opinion of it. Since this issue probably won't be going away anytime soon, I figured I'd chime in here as well as at fighters. So here's what I think.
"I know what I’m about to say is going to upset some people, so allow me to throw out fair warning and explain a few things. First off, yes I’m an Anderson Silva fan. A huge one. A massive one. I won’t deny it. But that doesn’t mean I loathe Chael Sonnen. Maybe I did when this rivalry first started, but I don’t now. If you forced me to make a choice I’d even say that I’m a fan of the man. He’s got a brilliant mind and real fighting skill. So the following isn’t said out of malice towards Chael Sonnen the person. It’s directed towards Chael Sonnen the athlete, the professional fighter, the man who supposedly (if no eleventh-hour revelations come out) cheated to get ahead.
So here it is: I have absolutely no sympathy for Chael Sonnen, and he should be ashamed of himself. I will never, ever, not-in-a-million-years ever condone Performance Enhancing Drugs in sports. I just don’t have it in me. It’s unfair to the opponents who do play by the rules. It’s unfair to the promotions that spend a fortune building up their stars only to have that good faith tarnished. It’s even unfair to the person taking the drugs, as cold, hard science has linked PEDs to a variety of potentially fatal side-effects.
What’s more, this permanently puts an asterisk next to the best performance of Chael Sonnen’s career. Chael Sonnen fans harp on him coming closer than anybody’s ever been in recent history to beating Anderson Silva. That doesn’t mean anything, nothing at all, if Sonnen cheated to get there. In fact, it makes his performance downright saddening (or laughable, depending on whom you ask): even when taking illegal drugs, even when his opponent had a bad rib injury, Chael Sonnen still couldn’t beat Anderson Silva.
I don’t know where this leaves Chael Sonnen… nowhere good, that’s for sure. There’s very little room for debate, the precedent for these tests being correct and not false positives are overwhelming. Sonnen has a long and very difficult road ahead of him if he wants to restore his good name. It’s not impossible, and if all this does end up being untrue you’ll see me quickly recant this entire article. But that is highly, highly unlikely. And for now, I think Chael Sonnen’s career just hit a massive roadblock. And he has nobody to blame but himself."
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 19, 2010 9:39:09 GMT -5
Apparently he was taking flu medicine and that made it positive.
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Post by NYdream™ on Sept 19, 2010 10:08:20 GMT -5
If he really did take steiroids all I have to say is... Haha... Too bad for him. Its not a ohhh poor him situation. He ed his career up no one is doing this to him. But if it was not steiroids or PED or whatever then he deserves justice to be served and his planned rematch...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 10:19:06 GMT -5
Apparently he was taking flu medicine and that made it positive. That's what i thought myself this morning. A soccer goalkeeper over here was banned for 9 months for failing a drugs test but it came positive from some stuff he bought over the counter in a pharmacy as opposed to from the club doctors. Chael was complaining about flu all leading up to the fight in interviews so i'd believe this.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 19, 2010 10:28:08 GMT -5
California has a very strict stance on the "testing positive" thing. Guys have tested positive there for simple over-the-counter drugs which are considered PED's for whatever reason in California.
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Post by ville on Sept 19, 2010 13:35:08 GMT -5
I really hope the Flu medicine is the case, I really started like Chael after he fought Okami, if it really was PED's then I lost a lot of respect for him.
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Post by Hawks_NFC West Champions on Sept 19, 2010 14:05:35 GMT -5
I really hope it's for the flu and wasn't anything else...Sonnen still deserves a rematch in my view, because I don't see anyone coming close to beating Silva. Sonnen is still on of my favorite fighters and I hope what he did to Silva isn't tarnished.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 19, 2010 15:10:54 GMT -5
I really hope it's for the flu and wasn't anything else...Sonnen still deserves a rematch in my view, because I don't see anyone coming close to beating Silva. Sonnen is still on of my favorite fighters and I hope what he did to Silva isn't tarnished. Well to be fair, if they were actual PED's in his system, then he doesn't deserve anything. If he was on something unnatural that bettered his performance from what it would've been otherwise, then coming so close to beating Anderson means nothing. Which means that there are no grounds on which a rematch should be made.
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Post by nWo_Sentinel on Sept 19, 2010 15:50:22 GMT -5
I think it's a little early in the game to be throwing his career out the window. I think we can all agree that if it was something as silly as flu medicine as james said than he will and should be fine and this wont be a problem. If it's something worse than he's a dumbass and doesn't deserve a lick of respect.... I gotta tell you tho as a new owner of his recent walkout shirt I hope it's option one
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Post by 1992 on Sept 19, 2010 15:54:50 GMT -5
No comment until we find out exact details.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 17:08:12 GMT -5
No comment until we find out exact details. This, though if it does come back as true then I for one will be incredibly disappointed, like others here.
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Post by ville on Sept 19, 2010 17:58:47 GMT -5
This won't mean much but it's kinda odd so I thought I'd share, here are pics of his back from UFC 104 - 117 and you can clearly see that his back got more muscularly defined and more acne. Like I said I really hope this isn't true but this is all kinda adds up on him. I understand that some people (including myself) have back acne but no one gets it that bad over the course of a year with more muscle definition like that.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 19, 2010 18:14:55 GMT -5
I had noticed the bacne from the 117 pic the minute I saw it. I just figured that he was one of the fighters who cycled on it and quit in time to test negative.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Sept 19, 2010 21:11:30 GMT -5
This isn't good for Sonnen no doubt. Those pictures definitely don't help his case if he trys to argue he didn't take anything. Not gonna jump to conclusons till I know more.
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