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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 17:09:54 GMT -5
Lesnar through many illegal shots to Heath Herring, but no one brings that up because it doesn't matter. That was Lesnar's fight from the beginning and who's to say he did it on purpose.
The use of "blatant" here is what bothers me. Like Cain is some dirty fighter.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 27, 2010 19:06:12 GMT -5
The use of "blatant" here is what bothers me. Like Cain is some dirty fighter. I'm not calling him a dirty fighter by any means, but it was cheap-shot to the back of the head. Oh well, like I said, none of that matters anyway. Cain is the champ. Good for him. Too bad he had to cheap-shot Lesnar like that though....
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Post by 1992 on Oct 27, 2010 19:20:20 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 19:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 27, 2010 20:23:22 GMT -5
And what's wrong with that?? Looks like a perfectly fine and legal knee strike to me. Didn't GSP do roughly the same thing to Matt Serra in their 2nd fight?? I believe so... Where-as, Cain Velasquez gave Lesnar a blatant shot to the back of the head. Watch the clip man. Film don't lie. It's almost like after he gave Brock that vicious knee, Cain waited a second or two for Lesnar to turn away, so he could deliver that shot that way. It's certainly questionable man. You can't deny that. He drilled him to the back of the head which dropped him like a bad habit. Oh well. Nothin' anyone can do about it now. I can only go by what I saw and I CLEARLY saw Cain nail Brock with a devastating shot to the back of the head. You can defend Cain all you want, I don't care. It still won't change MY opinion one single bit.
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Post by PrideFcF on Oct 27, 2010 20:31:16 GMT -5
I believe strikes to the back/spine are illegal in MMA.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 20:47:36 GMT -5
Spine strikes are illegal in MMA and boxing. GSP was hitting Sera on his side, rather than to his spine like Lesnar is clearly doing to Herring.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 20:50:20 GMT -5
And what's wrong with that?? Looks like a perfectly fine and legal knee strike to me. Didn't GSP do roughly the same thing to Matt Serra in their 2nd fight?? I believe so... Where-as, Cain Velasquez gave Lesnar a blatant shot to the back of the head. Watch the clip man. Film don't lie. It's almost like after he gave Brock that vicious knee, Cain waited a second or two for Lesnar to turn away, so he could deliver that shot that way. It's certainly questionable man. You can't deny that. He drilled him to the back of the head which dropped him like a bad habit. Oh well. Nothin' anyone can do about it now. I can only go by what I saw and I CLEARLY saw Cain nail Brock with a devastating shot to the back of the head. You can defend Cain all you want, I don't care. It still won't change MY opinion one single bit. Hahaha. You're seriously saying Cain just WAITED for the perfect time for Lesnar to turn his head and fall, so he could strike him? That was Cain's whole plan, right? To wait to hit him on the back of the head. Cain won that fight by that point, and didn't even NEED to keep the fight standing to win. I'm not denying the strike. Strikes like this happen all the time. It's just stupid to point out this ONE TIME just because it was a high-profile fight to throw it in the face of everyone like it meant something in the whole scheme of things. Like I said, you act like this was Cain's plan all along.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 27, 2010 21:00:17 GMT -5
^ I can't believe you are taking me THAT seriously dude. You should know by now that I talk out of my ass most of the friggin' time. LOL. I was talkin' sh*t the whole time dude.
Cain beat Brock fair and square, despite the illegal shot. Those things happen. Hey, like the old saying goes, "sh*t happens". Cain is the champ and deserves all the credit in the world. We'll see how long he remains champ. His next fight will be MUCH tougher, that is for certain.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 21:21:32 GMT -5
It's whatever, really. Shots like that happen all the time by a lot of different fighters. Unless it has a HUGE impact on the fight, its pointless to point out.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 27, 2010 21:46:34 GMT -5
Certainly Cain didn't do it on purpose.
I always hate when fighters turn to run away and them people complain about them getting punched in the head. It's like, "Really?" Reminds me of the Mir/Lesnar fight. Mir's head is bouncing all around and Lesnar isn't TRYING to hit him in the back of the head, but he does a few times just out of happenstance.
Certainly I would not call Cain a dirty fighter and I don't even blame him for the strike - I blame Lesnar for turning around and running away.
... I also hate when guys use the "three points of contact" rule to their advantage to avoid knees. It's so preposterous when a guy is standing on two feet and touching his finger tips on the ground to avoid a knee. I mean, come on...
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 27, 2010 21:48:40 GMT -5
Yeah, the hands on the ground thing REALLY is used a lot. The past couple Bellator shows had fighters do that several times.
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Post by ville on Oct 28, 2010 4:32:48 GMT -5
The second I saw that on Sherdog I knew sooner or later Mr. Old School was gonna bring it up. Honestly its irrelevant, the fight was over with by then and what was Cain supposed to do with Lesnar turning his back and running like that? Stop and tell him to turn around? LOL!
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Post by BigDaddyChacon on Oct 28, 2010 20:30:52 GMT -5
Hahaha!!!! Laughing at the PB&J sandwich with no crust!
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