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Post by Bartman on Oct 19, 2010 17:40:20 GMT -5
1. Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Gilbert Yvel 2. Middleweight bout: Chris Camozzi vs. Dong Yi Yang 3. Lightweight bout: Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor 4. Welterweight bout: Mike Guymon vs. Daniel Roberts 5. Middleweight bout: Patrick Côté vs. Tom Lawlor 6. Middleweight bout: Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen 7. Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga 8. Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill 9. Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago 10. Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann 11. Heavyweight Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez
On paper, Gonzaga should win, but I'm going to predict that Schaub catches him in the first. Hope I'm wrong though. Even if he does get past Gonzaga, he's crazy if he thinks he's Top 5.
The main event is a hard one to pick and I keep changing my mind. Brock will have 30+ lbs on Cain, but with Cain's cardio, I think that Cain will take it in the later rounds. Although, at the end of the day, does it realy matter? Both will just be warming the belt for JDS. ;D
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Post by Squatch on Oct 19, 2010 18:07:21 GMT -5
Brock and Cain will be an amazing fight and I think it will end at the end of the 2nd round because Lesnar is a threat in size but Cain can be a great fighter and will probably get out of Lesnar's ground and pound strategy and Cain will Knock Lesnar out on his feet. Those are my thoughts on this fight!
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Post by Raab Himself™ on Oct 19, 2010 18:26:52 GMT -5
I really hope Hamill dominates Ortiz. I can't stand tito and all the bullcrapthat comes with him.
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Post by hammer on Oct 19, 2010 19:41:37 GMT -5
brock, shields, YES!, hamill, schaub, court, lawlor, guyman, taylor, yang, yvel
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 19, 2010 21:54:00 GMT -5
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel GonzagaLight Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo ThiagoWelterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann Heavyweight Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez I'm going for Brock in the main event... if he can withstand the brutal attack of the bigger/harder hitting Shane Carwin, I think he'll be able to handle what Cain throws at him. Cain is faster (than Carwin) and I think he'll want to keep the fight standing up - but I can see Brock smothering Cain's punches and getting the takedown to dominate on the ground, before forcing a stoppage... maybe around the 2nd or 3rd round. This is an awesome card, top to bottom - can't wait!
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Post by PrideFcF on Oct 19, 2010 22:21:32 GMT -5
1. Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Gilbert Yvel I REALLY want Yvel to win this, but I see Madsen doing his regular thing to take an uneventful UD.
3. Lightweight bout: Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor I like both fighters a lot, but I'm going for Stout in this one. Should be a good fight either way that goes to a decision.
5. Middleweight bout: Patrick Côté vs. Tom Lawlor I love Lawlors antics, but I don't see him winning this one. I think Cote will finish him sometime late in the first or 2nd round.
7. Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga Huge test for Schaub. Gonzaga is just way too well rounded for me to bet against though.
8. Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill I wonder what the mystery injury will be if Tito loses this time? This one could go either way, but I see it going to decision no matter what.
9. Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago I'll be rooting for Paulo. I don't mind Diego at all, but he is going to keep running into brick walls at WW. Even if he squeaks by Paulo, he won't go far.
10. Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann As much as I find Shields to be boring (sue me), I am happy to see him finally get his shot in the UFC. Unless Kampmann can keep it standing long enough to land his shots, I see Shields mauling him on the ground en route to a submission or UD.
11. Heavyweight Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez The one everyone can't stop debating about. I really don't have much to say about this one that hasn't already been said. I haven't said much about it on here, but I've been telling friends since the fight was first rumored that I see Cain winning this one. Personally, I think Brock will get overzealous while trying to enforce his size advantage. He'll go in a little too wild for the takedown, and Cain will just explode with a combo that puts him on his ass.
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Post by MuffFuzz on Oct 19, 2010 23:58:11 GMT -5
Insane card. I'm trying my best not to think about it too much until Friday since I have the weekend off from work. Anyways, here are my predictions:
Brendan Schaub Vs Gabrielle Gonzaga
Tito Ortiz Vs Matt Hamill
Diego Sanchez Vs Paulo Thiago
Jake Shields Vs Martin Kampmann
Brock Lesnar Vs Cain Velasquez
I have no idea who to go with for Lesnar Vs Velasquez. But I'm going with Brock, guy is a beast and I really think it's his time to shine.
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Post by BAD LUCK BRIAN on Oct 20, 2010 0:08:02 GMT -5
1. Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Gilbert Yvel 2. Middleweight bout: Chris Camozzi vs. Dong Yi Yang 3. Lightweight bout: Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor 4. Welterweight bout: Mike Guymon vs. Daniel Roberts 5. Middleweight bout: Patrick Côté vs. Tom Lawlor 6. Middleweight bout: Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen 7. Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga 8. Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill 9. Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago 10. Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann 11. Heavyweight Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez
this card is just so awesome can't wait to see shields debut and as for the main event i don't know who i am cheering for both are my favorite heavyweights
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 20, 2010 15:50:44 GMT -5
I've clearly gotta go with my boy, Brock Lesnar in this one. I just think his overall size, weight and strength will be WAY too much for Cain to overcome. I mean, seriously, Cain couldn't even finish Cheick Kongo and lots of people think he'll stop Lesnar??!! I don't ing think so. 2 times Kongo nearly dropped Cain. Imagine if that would've been Brock punching him!! He would've been ing out for sure!! Brock WILL drop Cain in this one. I have no doubt in my mind about that. Brock by KO probably in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure. Hell, maybe even in the 1st. I do not think this one will go the distance at all. Someone is going to sleep that night and I think it'll be Cain.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 20, 2010 15:55:10 GMT -5
Kongo is a better striker than Lesnar though.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:13:17 GMT -5
Kongo is a better striker than Lesnar though. We'll see about that come Saturday night.... Personally, I don't think Cain has a ing prayer, but that's just my opinion. I could be dead wrong, but I doubt it. Once Brock gets Cain down and he WILL, I don't see Cain getting back up. Either standing or on the ground, Brock will KO Cain. Bet on it.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 20, 2010 16:16:25 GMT -5
Brock has NEVER shown KO power. It's obvious he is strong, but there is no evidence to prove he can knock someone unconscious. Brock has shown obvious holes in his striking, so I don't see it being a problem in the standup for Cain.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:20:46 GMT -5
Brock has shown bone breaking power, but I agree that he hasn't knocked anyone out or even shown power to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm still pulling for Brock, but much like July's fight, I think it's only fair to give Cain the credit he deserves while observing the fact that Brock constantly overcomes.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:21:54 GMT -5
Brock has NEVER shown KO power. It's obvious he is strong, but there is no evidence to prove he can knock someone unconscious. Tell that to Frank Mir. I believe Brock punched Frank into unconsciousness in their 2nd fight, if I recall correctly. Cain is in serious trouble in this fight. Brock WILL win. No question about that.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:24:27 GMT -5
Brock won via TKO, not KO versus Mir. It was the same stoppage as the Couture fight. Where as Cain has knocked people out with one punch, only to continue punching them because the ref hadn't stopped it yet.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:27:51 GMT -5
Well, you call it what you will. Frank looked out to me. Plus, I recall Bruce Buffer announcing that it was by Knock-Out, so there.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:29:39 GMT -5
He did announce it as KO, you are correct. But it's in the record books as TKO due to punches.
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Post by PrideFcF on Oct 20, 2010 16:29:55 GMT -5
Well, you call it what you will. Frank looked out to me. Plus, I recall Bruce Buffer announcing that it was by Knock-Out, so there. There's a big difference between knocking someone out cold on the feet, and doing it while on top of them on the ground. Nvm, I thought you just made an open statement in regards to Brock being able to KO someone. I think Brock could be a dangerous striker if he'd work on it. As it is, he probably just has what it take to wobble someone with a wild punch, rather than decimate them with technical strikes.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 20, 2010 16:31:39 GMT -5
Well, you call it what you will. Frank looked out to me. Plus, I recall Bruce Buffer announcing that it was by Knock-Out, so there. There's a big difference between knocking someone out cold on the feet, and doing it while on top of them on the ground. Pretty much the point we were trying to make.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 20, 2010 16:33:53 GMT -5
Bruce Buffer announces several fights as a "Knock Out" but the guy wasn't unconscious. I consider a KO something like what happened to Dan Hardy or Chuck Liddell (hehe). TKO should be when you are being hit and not defending, which is what Mir was doing.
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