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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 9, 2011 23:53:13 GMT -5
The Nets have the picks to give up, Detroit is in this to dump salary and the Nets need a team to take Petro and free up cap space for Billups, Melo and Rip.
It realyl makes sense, its not ideal for a Knicks fan or why Melo would sign an extension (He hasnt done so yet), but it makes sense for Denver obviously, Detroit obviously and the Nets if they think Carmelo is the building block they need.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 9, 2011 23:54:09 GMT -5
LOL that you think its all coming up to spite the Knicks? How does that make sense?
Really?
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:02:32 GMT -5
Hey we were up by 30 in Phoenix and all they talked about during the 4th quarter was a trade that was already deemed "unlikely" at that point in time over a player the Knicks covet. So yea, it could make sense if you're open to looking at it with such an open mind as you've shown here while you believe that..... wait for it..... wait for it.....
it makes sense for Melo to sign with the would be cap ridden, no draft picks and no free agent coming New Jersey Nets to win a championship with Brooke Lopez and Rip Hamilton.
Really now, the thread has been great for weeks without you in it much so don't start a barnburner because I'm not willing to believe Melo wants to play with Rip Hamilton over Amare right now.... think about that dude.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:19:53 GMT -5
oh yea here's the killer....
during that bogus trade in September, that you also gave me a hard time about calling bogus and still turned out to be bogus (remember you were getting Nets tickets and all this rah rah because you were SO CERTAIN IT MAKES SENSE)... one of the rumors during this was Hamilton would be traded to Denver to try and keep Melo there and he didn't take to it at all... which is why Denver was then trying to trade him to NJ...
So he's taking it in NJ though right, along with no draft picks and no help coming, right? It makes PERFECT SENSE right?
I'm not saying he's gonna be a Knick... but I am saying that anyone who thinks outright that just signing with the Knicks isn't his best option is really confused or just looking to start a silly debate with a Knicks fan.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2011 0:29:29 GMT -5
No you are saying it doesnt make sense because you want him to be a Knick plain and simple, a ton of sources like this one: www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18425Are saying it could happen and why it might, but you want and expect him to be a Knick, like you did Lebron, and there were a million reasons why he should choose NY....well, we will see on Melo but there is a lot of smoke saying that he could be in NJ really soon I will leave this thread before the fighting starts until the deal happens, if it happens, but there is so much going on taht something is bound to happen.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2011 0:31:04 GMT -5
Also, my post wasnt directed at you or anyone, I try to post something, and its "Everyone vs the Knicks" I was stating news and you had to defend it and start arguing with me because you want him to be a Knick, no other reason then to argue it because what you want, not what might happen.
Go Bobcats
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:38:27 GMT -5
No you are saying it doesnt make sense because you want him to be a Knick plain and simple, a ton of sources like this one: www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18425Are saying it could happen and why it might, but you want and expect him to be a Knick, like you did Lebron, and there were a million reasons why he should choose NY....well, we will see on Melo but there is a lot of smoke saying that he could be in NJ really soon I will leave this thread before the fighting starts until the deal happens, if it happens, but there is so much going on taht something is bound to happen. Yea I don't have much more to say that I didn't already say except for this thread is 10x better when you are not around (you only show up during Melo rumors that involve him not going to the Knicks) and also that... No, I do not believe Melo signing a 65 million 3 year extension to play along side the old Rip Hamilton and Brooke Lopez (and virtually NO ONE ELSE) makes any sense at all for Carmelo Anthony. So no, I don't understand what you are trying to scrap the bottom of the barrel for and claiming I'm only arguing it because he's not going to the Knicks. I don't want the Knicks to trade for him, I want them to sign him this Summer. But, if that's the case... Answer me this? Do you think that this trade makes more sense for Melo in the long run than signing with the Knicks outright and playing along side Amare? That's all I'm really getting at.... YOU would rather play with Rip Hamilton and Lopez than Amare Stoudemire and Wilson Chandler? Ok then, no wonder there are no fights in this thread unless you're around stirring crap up.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:39:15 GMT -5
I would love for this deal to happen except without Melo signing an extension.
NJ will be such a mess after this without an extended Melo.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2011 0:42:37 GMT -5
I am posting information that is all over ESPN.com about a trade to the New Jersey Nets I mean its the 4th headline on ESPN's front page, HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE KNICKS, CARMELO ANTHONY IS NOT YOURS, YOU DO NOT OWN HIM. HE CAN GO WHEREVER HE WANTS, THE NUGGETS CAN TRADE HIM WHEREVER THEY WANT, NOT TO KNICKS
This thread is just you ranting and raving, and everyone ignores you. JohnnyB and I are gone and ignore this disgrace. I am posting the biggest basketball news of the night, if it wasnt me, someone else would have. And you would have gotten on your soap box and squashed it because no one even bothers going agaisnt you because it ruins this thread
You dont like people talking about Melo and the Nets? Too bad.
All I said it makes sense for Denver, it makes sense for Detroit and obviously the Nets want to build around him. I do not know what Melo is thinking, NEITHER DO YOU!
New Jersey has Lopez, Cap Room and moving to his home town in 2 years, I am assuming that is what is driving.
Again, assuming, I am not Carmelo, I only go by what I am reading.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:47:33 GMT -5
Yea I thought you were leaving the thread, again, or something?
Concerning all of that other crap you just posted all I have to say is... the thread has been great for months.
Concerning all that stuff you wrote in caps like a mad man... yea lol I'm not touching that.
But hey, once again... answer the question if you're here to constructively participate and not cause a big fight....
Do you think that this trade makes more sense for Melo in the long run than signing with the Knicks outright and playing along side Amare?
Because I think it even makes more sense for him to just sign with NJ rather than get traded there... the team will be destroyed...
Like I said, if NJ trades for him without getting the extension that is ideal for Knicks fans because that pretty much takes them out of a chance to resign him.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2011 0:51:39 GMT -5
I dont view Amare like you do, I never have. He is playing out of his mind right now, but the man has 2 broken knees and never played defense, I do not expect him to age well and I do not expect Felton to be playing this well for the future too. Has nothing to do with them being Knicks, my opinion on Amare has been documented for a long time.
I am not Carmelo Anthony, maybe the allure of him going home, playing for a billionare owner and Jay Z is more important to him than Amare and the Knicks. Its not like Amare is Lebron, or Wade or someone who can do it pretty much alone.
There is no way they are doing the deal without the extension, theres no need to even bring it up, it wont happen. Just like the Garnett deal, they gave them a window to work it out or no deal.
You are a giant Knick fan, you are going to say NY is the best place, just like you did for Lebron over anywhere else, but it might not be for Carmelo Anthony.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:55:30 GMT -5
yea so what was all the fuss for your last few posts about then? Like I said, I don't think Melo wants to extend for that.... however you think he might want to.
I don't get it, you're over here playing a guessing game about what is important and all this crap but if I do it I GET TALKED TO IN CAPITAL LETTERS AFTER BEING TOLD YOU'RE LEAVING THE THREAD (for the 4th time this season) and IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE KNICKS HOW DARE YOU TO EVEN BRING UP THAT AS A POSSIBLE DESTINATION
Seriously?
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2011 0:58:41 GMT -5
I am not guessing, I am going by what I am reading.....you are the one who started the guessing and the bogus nonsense! Read your posts, calling all the ESPN and Hoopsworld posts bogus because you want him to be a Knick!
There is no mention of the Knicks in the trade, why did YOU have to bring them up?
ESPN is saying its going to happen, sources said Melo will agree, but you disagree, gee I wonder who I am going to listen to?
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 0:59:37 GMT -5
Oh and for the record he's terribly misquoted and misspoke about me a few times but the one I will address is that no I did not say NY was the best and only play for LeBron....
I said Chicago would have been pretty nasty and I would have accepted that move as a good decision for him.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 1:01:28 GMT -5
I am not guessing, I am going by what I am reading.....you are the one who started the guessing and the bogus nonsense! I am not Carmelo Anthony, maybe the allure of him going home, playing for a billionare owner and Jay Z is more important to him than Amare and the Knicks. Come on dude seriously what is your deal just keep this stuff logical. I don't know how I am supposed to respond back at this point. Also, you are now claiming sources say Melo will accept the extension? Can you provide me with the information? ESPN is saying its going to happen, sources said Melo will agree, but you disagree, gee I wonder who I am going to listen to? ESPN also said it was gonna happen in September and I said it was bogus. You then responded with your usual brashness and said you were getting your Nets tickets! Well, listening to ESPN last time had you going to watch Kris Humphries... I'm not saying you gotta listen to me dude I'm just saying I'm not buying that Melo would want to extend for that. But, we'll see if Melo extends to play with Richard Hamilton. If not, I guess it's: Me - 2, ESPN - 0 on the Melo saga.
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 10, 2011 1:04:01 GMT -5
Really fun game, it's a shame they had to lose it late in overtime like they did. It's almost worse being in position to win and then lose than being blown out.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 1:09:47 GMT -5
Really fun game, it's a shame they had to lose it late in overtime like they did. It's almost worse being in position to win and then lose than being blown out. I want the Knicks to trade for Camby for rebounding help
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 10, 2011 1:10:56 GMT -5
wow I just noticed where the Knicks had a winning record. That's like the first time I remember them being good since Ewing and Starks (no offense NYK fans, I dont watch basketball much)
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Post by user9327 on Jan 10, 2011 1:12:47 GMT -5
wow I just noticed where the Knicks had a winning record. That's like the first time I remember them being good since Ewing and Starks (no offense NYK fans, I dont watch basketball much) yes it is quite abnormal and a very weird feeling. Like when they beat the Spurs last week I was just grinning because my team beat the best team in the league and.... it actually mattered (weren't winning it while having a losing season). Just feels weird, been 10 years.
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 10, 2011 1:12:52 GMT -5
wow I just noticed where the Knicks had a winning record. That's like the first time I remember them being good since Ewing and Starks (no offense NYK fans, I dont watch basketball much) Chris Childs wants to punch you.
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