christianedge
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Post by christianedge on Feb 15, 2011 6:54:33 GMT -5
D-Wade n LeBron didn't drive as aggressively as usual. They were all passive like mike miller. Also Miller, House, and James Jones were not hitting from outside. KG had 5 fouls heat should have attacked him a bit more. LeBron had Rondo on him, should have posted him (I think he only posted him once). They were close to beating Boston with mid range jumpers. BUT Pierce was like 0-10. I doubt that's happening in the playoffs.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 15, 2011 7:18:44 GMT -5
Lebron drove the entire game, I am not sure what you were watching.
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 15, 2011 11:27:42 GMT -5
D-Wade n LeBron didn't drive as aggressively as usual. They were all passive like mike miller. Also Miller, House, and James Jones were not hitting from outside. KG had 5 fouls heat should have attacked him a bit more. LeBron had Rondo on him, should have posted him (I think he only posted him once). They were close to beating Boston with mid range jumpers. BUT Pierce was like 0-10. I doubt that's happening in the playoffs. Pierce's also pretty ed up injury wise at the moment...just sayin'.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 15, 2011 19:52:03 GMT -5
D-Wade n LeBron didn't drive as aggressively as usual. They were all passive like mike miller. Also Miller, House, and James Jones were not hitting from outside. KG had 5 fouls heat should have attacked him a bit more. LeBron had Rondo on him, should have posted him (I think he only posted him once). They were close to beating Boston with mid range jumpers. BUT Pierce was like 0-10. I doubt that's happening in the playoffs. I've noticed in general this year that they don't drive nearly as much as they should. It seems to be the most puzzling and obvious point; I'm not surprised you brought this up. Either they are just saving it for the playoffs and don't want to reveal what their sets will be when they do that, or they are still trying to figure out an offense that wastes their abilities. I'll go with both. I think come playoff time the two of them are going to do things that other teams just aren't going to be prepared for. Will it be the answer for Boston's complete team? Who knows. But LeBron would rough Boston up with the nobodies in Cleveland playing freelance at the end of games. I can't wait to see what he does when he tries to take over and has Wade out there. Also, people need to stop sleeping on Chicago. Rose is the real MVP of the East (coming from a Knick fan) and he's had injuries to Boozer and Noah. Chicago still has a great record, playoff experience and Boozer is proven to rise up in the playoffs. I could see Chicago taking the East. I'm not betting on it. Only a fool would bet against Boston right now and that's the truth. But Chicago could eliminate them and I wouldn't be shocked.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 15, 2011 20:16:48 GMT -5
Again, I dont know where the "Lebron didnt drive stuff is coming from"
That is all he did Sunday, he drove or he passed. He ran the point for the 2nd half, but when he had Rondo on him, he drove. Same with Wade when he had the chance.
Bosh is a jump shooter now, but the other 2, drove and played their game.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Feb 15, 2011 20:25:17 GMT -5
Also, people need to stop sleeping on Chicago. Rose is the real MVP of the East (coming from a Knick fan) and he's had injuries to Boozer and Noah. Chicago still has a great record, playoff experience and Boozer is proven to rise up in the playoffs. I could see Chicago taking the East. I'm not betting on it. Only a fool would bet against Boston right now and that's the truth. But Chicago could eliminate them and I wouldn't be shocked. Right. We haven't seen the full potential from Chicago yet. Boozer and Noah have been out at different times during the season. The Bulls were helped by a favorable schedule during Noah's absence. It might take a couple of weeks for them to get on the same page, but when they're on, it's boner time. The Bulls have been playing great defense as well.
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christianedge
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Post by christianedge on Feb 15, 2011 20:25:30 GMT -5
He was not aggressively driving. There was like one play in the fourth where LeBron didn't get the call against KG. Bron n Wade were passive that game compared to what they usually do. It was a bunch of Bosh mid-range jumpers that were hitting in the first half, but not as much in the 4th.
Maybe they're saving something for the playoffs like Stat City said, but I dunno. Driving halfway unaggressively n kicking the ball out to shooters is what they were doing.
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Post by twinn on Feb 15, 2011 20:39:38 GMT -5
Also, people need to stop sleeping on Chicago. Rose is the real MVP of the East (coming from a Knick fan) and he's had injuries to Boozer and Noah. Chicago still has a great record, playoff experience and Boozer is proven to rise up in the playoffs. I could see Chicago taking the East. I'm not betting on it. Only a fool would bet against Boston right now and that's the truth. But Chicago could eliminate them and I wouldn't be shocked. Right. We haven't seen the full potential from Chicago yet. Boozer and Noah have been out at different times during the season. The Bulls were helped by a favorable schedule during Noah's absence. It might take a couple of weeks for them to get on the same page, but when they're on, it's boner time. The Bulls have been playing great defense as well. Exactly; I have high high high hopes for this team... I cannot wait for the playoffs!!!
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 15, 2011 20:48:23 GMT -5
The thing that concerns me most about Chicago is their road record. That's part of the tri-fecta of things I always look at when breaking down whos legit and who's not.
Road wins Point differential Star power
Certainly there's other things to consider, size, bench, coach, defense, half-court execution, but those those are safe bets in determining contenders from pretenders. Boston, LA, SA and Miami are the 4 teams that standout when you observe that trifecta.
The Bulls have 2 of the 3, although their stars(Boozer aside) are still really young which is probably why their road record isn't elite. In a couple of years though, they will be something to behold, especially if they can get one more key player.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 15, 2011 23:46:36 GMT -5
Yea the road record is a huge point.
But Chicago really hasn't had their full team out there yet.
Take for instance that the Knicks have beaten up on them both times they've played. But Chicago was not at full strength each time. So it's not really meaningful in the bigger picture.
That's kinda how I look at Miami, Chicago and Boston; the bigger picture. I think in the bigger picture Boston has more to lose AND is older.
The Knicks wouldn't beat Chicago in a 7 game series despite appearing to match up well. Even if, hypothetically, the Knicks had homecourt. Chicago has that playoff experience and Boozer has Western playoff experience.
I think Chicago is young enough to will themselves through a lot. As opposed to the Celtics who are due to run out of gas again.
I still think Boston is the team to beat. But it's hard to believe that they are going to go through a few of these young teams (MIA, CHI, NY) and not be out of gas again. Last time the Celtics lost game 7 because Pierce was flat and Rondo was a liability offensively. Both of those are still possibilities.
But if Chicago catches them in the right series or the right time, they won't make the mistakes or show the flaws that previous teams of Cleveland and Orlando had.
I mean really, who the hell is gonna guard Derek Rose, check Boozer AND rebound? Boston is capable; but they're also flawed at PG and older.
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 16, 2011 1:26:33 GMT -5
I do think Chicago is dangerous and probably the biggest threat to Boston because of the match up problems they create.
Noah will certainly help because he's a major impact player, but I don't if he would help these stats..
Luol Deng Home FG% .475 - Road .432. Keith Bogans Home .439 - Road .338 Rose 3P% Home .432 - Road .291. Wow. Team 3P% Home .395 - Road .321 FT% Home .745 - Road .707
These are fairly significant drops in production on the road, most the other stats are pretty comparable to what you see them put up at home. Sometimes guys just don't perform very well on the road and that doesn't just go for Bulls it's league wide.
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Post by T R W on Feb 16, 2011 17:19:38 GMT -5
The trade machine will let me swap Joe Johnson for Caramello, so I say it should be done.
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Post by MC2 on Feb 16, 2011 17:25:50 GMT -5
I really hope the Carmelo trade happens tonight or tomorrow because I'm gonna be on a cruise with no internet or connection to the outside world.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 16, 2011 18:35:30 GMT -5
The trade machine will let me swap Joe Johnson for Caramello, so I say it should be done. A Caramello bar would bring instant cap relief after consumed. Not sure if the Hawks are interested in that over a Snickers though. Snickers motto is "why wait?" That's what I'm talkin about.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 16, 2011 22:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by twinn on Feb 16, 2011 22:50:34 GMT -5
lol Lakers
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Post by user9327 on Feb 17, 2011 0:03:59 GMT -5
Gasol had 20 rebounds too. Doesn't look good for Kobe's side of things.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 17, 2011 2:03:11 GMT -5
Kobe tonight:
8-24 FG's 7 turnovers
... against the Cavs in a loss.
PS Gasol still absolutely should have been Finals MVP.
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Post by extreme on Feb 17, 2011 8:47:05 GMT -5
PS Gasol still absolutely should have been Finals MVP. I agree but LA is so in love with Kobe that he could have cut off his left arm at the beginning of the finals and still be voted finals MVP. Happy 48th birthday to Michael Jordan. Even though I hated the guy growing up, he's still the best.
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Post by T R W on Feb 17, 2011 9:16:47 GMT -5
I hated Jordan too. I had major respect for him, but I hated him. But having watched his entire career from draft day to his last retirement, what he was able to do, and the people he did it against, was simply amazing. As good as Kobe and LeBron are, they aren't even close still.
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