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Post by user9327 on Feb 20, 2011 23:53:10 GMT -5
Hey screw it, there's no other games on tonight we can talk off topic.
I'm not saying I'm a big fan of Tupac but that guy had some serious talent so I can respect it. I don't really respect Kanye's ability to rap but I respect his ability to produce and create music.
I realize not everyone likes rap (I hate the current rap) and I don't necessarily like this song that much. But take it for instance and listen to the first verse and how many dimensions he has in those rhymes... it's so well thought out and rewritten that it makes the crap that Kanye puts out look like a first draft that some high schooler wrote.
"I'm on a meal-ticket mission, want a mil, so I'm wishin Competition got me ripped, on that bullcrapthey stressin I'ma rhyme though, clown hoes like it's manditory, no guts no glory"
For me it's like hearing The Rock... and when I hear Kanye it's like hearing John Cena. It's not so much Kanye, it's just the entire genre now has lowered the bar. It's more about the chorus than it is the verse.
(TRW just officially got uncomfortable)
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Post by user9327 on Feb 20, 2011 23:54:59 GMT -5
Who's your favorite currently in the rap game then? Kid Cudi. I don't think he is great or even compares that well to the past but I like that he's humble, experimental and really has a lot of passion behind his albums. He's got some good stuff. I liked Kanye's Flashing Lights track the most. I really think that is a great song. But mostly because he rolls over the verses and it comes together so well.
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Post by BV on Feb 20, 2011 23:58:50 GMT -5
Who's your favorite currently in the rap game then? Kid Cudi. I don't think he is great or even compares that well to the past but I like that he's humble, experimental and really has a lot of passion behind his albums. He's got some good stuff. I liked Kanye's Flashing Lights track the most. I really think that is a great song. But mostly because he rolls over the verses and it comes together so well. I like Cuddler. His late stuff, eh. A lot of it is just, plain weird lol. Man on The Moon 1 was great in my opinion. Didn't like the second as much, but it had some good tracks on it.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 21, 2011 0:01:07 GMT -5
Take that for instance. Here is the first few lines...
"I make your mouthpiece obese like Della Reese When I release, you loose teeth like Little Cease N***a please Blood floods your dungarees"
Come on, it's no contest. That's the stuff that you hear the first time and can't requote until you hear it a few times because it's layered so deeply. I just feel it's more timeless.
Perfect Example: Where are Dipset and Cam'Ron now? I thought they were trash and never understood why people jumped on them for that year.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 21, 2011 0:02:33 GMT -5
Kid Cudi. I don't think he is great or even compares that well to the past but I like that he's humble, experimental and really has a lot of passion behind his albums. He's got some good stuff. I liked Kanye's Flashing Lights track the most. I really think that is a great song. But mostly because he rolls over the verses and it comes together so well. I like Cuddler. His late stuff, eh. A lot of it is just, plain weird lol. Man on The Moon 1 was great in my opinion. Didn't like the second as much, but it had some good tracks on it. Yea the second album is a lot more out there. I haven't even gotten through it all yet (buy a song here and there). His first album, I thought was really weird but it kept growing on me. Like 2 months later I'd randomly think "I wanna listen to that song right now." I admit Cudi is weird as hell but the genre desperately needs something different.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 0:05:08 GMT -5
2Pac is my favorite ever, I can still listen to his stuff and be happy.
Kid Cudi's first album, is one of the best albums I have ever heard. Absolutely amazing.
I love Kanye for the fact he produces and raps AND just puts stuff out constantly.
All of the Lights is amazing.
March 8th, my birthday, Lupe Fiasco = Album of the year.
Typing fast, in between Call of Duty games, sorry all statements
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Post by user9327 on Feb 21, 2011 0:10:14 GMT -5
Yea I can agree that Lupe has some real skill too. He's got a great flow and shows his heart.
Maybe it's just Kanye's personality, I dunno... but I just don't see the depth in his lyrics.
In his production and music; absolutely. He's talented as hell as a producer. He's made some great music. I just don't like him much as a lyricist.
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 21, 2011 1:23:53 GMT -5
Love Kanye's production, his lyrics are hit and miss but he can write a good hook though. However, it's his voice that kills me, it's not very pleasant sounding.
Kobe really took that All-star game seriously, maybe he was just trying to put on a good show for the home crowd or something but he was definitely a little too engaged with winning an exhibition contest.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Feb 21, 2011 1:43:11 GMT -5
Who's your favorite currently in the rap game then? Kid Cudi. I don't think he is great or even compares that well to the past but I like that he's humble, experimental and really has a lot of passion behind his albums. He's got some good stuff. I liked Kanye's Flashing Lights track the most. I really think that is a great song. But mostly because he rolls over the verses and it comes together so well. Cudi is amazing.
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Post by Jamal on Feb 21, 2011 12:26:40 GMT -5
I might be late in the conversation, but B.O.B. is seriously underrated right now. His album was the shit.
Big Kanye West fan as well.
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Post by BV on Feb 21, 2011 16:23:47 GMT -5
Ralpho has the right idea. Lasers will be the sh*t.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 16:42:08 GMT -5
Ralpho has the right idea. Lasers will be the sh*t. The song they keep teasing on Sportscenter, gives me an ear-orgasm
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Post by BV on Feb 21, 2011 16:46:04 GMT -5
Ralpho has the right idea. Lasers will be the sh*t. The song they keep teasing on Sportscenter, gives me an ear-orgasm Break The Chain? I've been looking for that song everywhere. It sounds amazing from what I've heard of it.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Feb 21, 2011 18:46:09 GMT -5
I'm glad they cut fergie from the 'all of the lights' music video.
Offtopic, but I'm going to the Heat/Bulls game on Thursday. I'm pretty excited and I'm glad that James, Wade, and Bosh are all healthy as it wouldn't be the same if one of them was not playing. (I hope nothing happens in practice this week). Noah should be back in the lineup, but obviously won't be at where he left off.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 22:18:17 GMT -5
The Carmelo Anthony trade saga is finally over. The Nuggets traded Melo to the New York Knicks tonight, a league source said. Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash. Anthony will go to New York, along with Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman. Read more: Carmelo Anthony traded to New York Knicks in blockbuster deal - The Denver Post www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17443219#ixzz1EecH4xrERead The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: www.denverpost.com/termsofuseSurprised no Curry
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Post by user9327 on Feb 21, 2011 22:27:20 GMT -5
A year ago right now if you told me the Knicks would have Amare, Melo and Billups I would have laughed at you and then went into a corner some where and tried not to drool over it
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 22:30:51 GMT -5
They can still deal Curry this year, and even Billups if they wanted to, but I bet they let Billups walk in the offseason and pray for Paul/Deron in 12
Interested to see if Billups holds up/excels in D'Antoni's system
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Post by user9327 on Feb 21, 2011 22:38:27 GMT -5
Billups is essentially going to be a player coach on Defense because he's the only defensive mind out there.
Melo plays Defense but only when it counts (playoffs).
They could use another big but I don't think Donnie Walsh is done yet..... ok wait I just heard they did get rid of Curry and Randolph to the Wolves.
Give Walsh credit he pulled it off and has delivered Amare, Melo and Billups... in the last 2 years all 3 players were big features of the Western Conference Finals.
Amare better up his rebounding game. It's been better than Phoenix but still atrocious some times.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 22:39:38 GMT -5
I cant get on Rotoworld but I knew Randolph was a goner, but Curry too? For a pick?
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 21, 2011 22:41:12 GMT -5
I expect the next 3 days to be ing nuts now for trades, thank god Melo is over
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