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Post by Tim of thee on Oct 27, 2010 19:42:59 GMT -5
I feel that voting for someone who you don't at least MOSTLY agree with is encouraging a corrupt political system that already lacks severely in options. The old, "If you don't vote, you can't complain" idea is preposterous in that if you do vote and the person you voted for does a horse **** job, I believe that you are at least partially to blame. By being informed and knowingly not voting, you are taking a stance that you support none of the candidates and that you are unwilling to shape your opinions around what someone else thinks is right. while I do agree with some aspect of your statement (mostly your first part), I still feel that regardless of your decision to vote or not to vote, you are still the one to blame if things don't turn out how you hoped
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 27, 2010 21:37:33 GMT -5
while I do agree with some aspect of your statement (mostly your first part), I still feel that regardless of your decision to vote or not to vote, you are still the one to blame if things don't turn out how you hoped One person can't change the political landscape in this country.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Oct 27, 2010 22:10:04 GMT -5
You wouldn't think that Canadian cartoon characters could so succinctly sum up American politics, but somehow, it works.
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Post by Tim of thee on Oct 27, 2010 22:12:40 GMT -5
while I do agree with some aspect of your statement (mostly your first part), I still feel that regardless of your decision to vote or not to vote, you are still the one to blame if things don't turn out how you hoped One person can't change the political landscape in this country. true, but should I just not vote because my state will always go for the democrats? seems futile, but at least I am doing something about it.. I'm not about to just roll over and die
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Post by slappy on Oct 27, 2010 22:21:07 GMT -5
while I do agree with some aspect of your statement (mostly your first part), I still feel that regardless of your decision to vote or not to vote, you are still the one to blame if things don't turn out how you hoped One person can't change the political landscape in this country. The curfew for any person under 70 passed by a single vote.
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Post by Tim of thee on Oct 27, 2010 22:33:39 GMT -5
I just don't know how not voting makes a statement about anything.. you really thinks that makes politicians cringe? really?
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 27, 2010 22:34:29 GMT -5
One person can't change the political landscape in this country. The curfew for any person under 70 passed by a single vote. Then it obviously needed to be re-voted on. Error potential alone should throw this out.
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Post by slappy on Oct 27, 2010 22:37:41 GMT -5
The curfew for any person under 70 passed by a single vote. Then it obviously needed to be re-voted on. Error potential alone should throw this out. It was a Simpson's reference.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 27, 2010 22:38:46 GMT -5
Then it obviously needed to be re-voted on. Error potential alone should throw this out. It was a Simpson's reference. Ohhhhhhhhh hahaha. I was wondering WTF you were talking about. I thought it was some weird local thing.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 27, 2010 23:01:59 GMT -5
One person can't change the political landscape in this country. true, but should I just not vote because my state will always go for the democrats? seems futile, but at least I am doing something about it.. I'm not about to just roll over and die Does it make sense to vote for a candidate you know will only get 1-2% of the vote though?
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Post by slappy on Oct 27, 2010 23:03:43 GMT -5
true, but should I just not vote because my state will always go for the democrats? seems futile, but at least I am doing something about it.. I'm not about to just roll over and die Does it make sense to vote for a candidate you know will only get 1-2% of the vote though? Depends on the candidate. The third party candidate in Colorado for Governor is polling above 30-35% and the Republican is polling below 10%. What about Jesse Ventura? No one thought he'd win, but he did.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 27, 2010 23:05:07 GMT -5
Jesse Ventura was the Governor of Minnesota. I still can't believe that my state was ballsy enough to do that.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 27, 2010 23:05:52 GMT -5
That's there though. Here the Libertarian candidates get zero press coverage and every year they get may 5% of the vote at max. They're not allowed at any of the debates and the best press they can hope to get is a line that says, "So and so is also running for Senate" at the end of a 2 page article about the two major party candidates. It doesn't help that they tend to run out nutjobs and wackos.
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Post by Tim of thee on Oct 27, 2010 23:07:11 GMT -5
true, but should I just not vote because my state will always go for the democrats? seems futile, but at least I am doing something about it.. I'm not about to just roll over and die Does it make sense to vote for a candidate you know will only get 1-2% of the vote though? like I said, not voting doesn't say anything to anyone.. that makes even less sense to me.. if you truly believe in your ideals, then you MUST vote for them..
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Post by King Silva on Oct 27, 2010 23:32:12 GMT -5
Well it is your choice. I know I am going to vote. Only my 3rd time I think but this is one of the bigger years so I hope my people and propositions win or pass/fail.
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Post by slappy on Oct 28, 2010 4:36:53 GMT -5
You know, I voted for W. Bush.
Well, not officially, but our class voted in 2000 before the election and we were all given pieces of paper and we had to vote for either Bush or Gore. Well, I voted for Bush. Out of my class of 23 or so, I was only one of two to vote for Bush.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 28, 2010 8:18:13 GMT -5
Does it make sense to vote for a candidate you know will only get 1-2% of the vote though? like I said, not voting doesn't say anything to anyone.. that makes even less sense to me.. if you truly believe in your ideals, then you MUST vote for them.. How do you vote your ideals when none of the candidates represent them? In many of the races I'm left to choose between a guy I loathe and a guy I detest. In other races they may have a guy who does represent my ideals, but who is horribly unqualified. I'm not going to take a guy who's been a career line worker at a machine shop and make him US Senator. That strikes me as ridiculous.
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Post by AONI on Oct 28, 2010 9:38:16 GMT -5
like I said, not voting doesn't say anything to anyone.. that makes even less sense to me.. if you truly believe in your ideals, then you MUST vote for them.. How do you vote your ideals when none of the candidates represent them? In many of the races I'm left to choose between a guy I loathe and a guy I detest. In other races they may have a guy who does represent my ideals, but who is horribly unqualified. I'm not going to take a guy who's been a career line worker at a machine shop and make him US Senator. That strikes me as ridiculous. whats ridiculous is seeing a guy who represents your ideals and not voting for him. what does it matter about a guy being inexperienced in the system when the system is broken? also, youre complaining about the people you like being underexposed. if youre not doin anything to expose them to the people (like your friends that say youre wasting your vote) youre only feeding into that.
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Post by J12 on Oct 28, 2010 11:09:05 GMT -5
I contemplated not bothering this year, but at the end of the day I decided it certainly wouldn't hurt. I already sent in my absentee ballot, as I'll be at school on election day and I wanted to vote in my home town.
We've got an intense race for governor and unfortunately I don't feel very strongly in favor of any of the candidates. I ended up siding with the independent, but no one has a chance other than the Republican. The independent candidate was a registered democrat months before the primaries so he and and the democratic candidate are simply splitting the party votes, so the Republican party has a huge leg up.
There are a couple of citizen initiatives and bond issues I was interested in, though.
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Post by Slay on Oct 28, 2010 11:53:11 GMT -5
I'm not voting because I don't want to be part of the inevitable corruption of my state or country.
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