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Post by Joel on Dec 24, 2010 21:48:57 GMT -5
Well I just wanted to know from my fellow WFers if any of you guys have any expierence's with Psychic's and or card readers. Lately ive been going through some thing's and awhile back a friend of mine told me she went to a psychic and the things that the psychic told her about me, she ended up telling me and for some reason there starting to come true. I want to go see one but im scared of the answers they will have in stored for me. My question to you guys is have any of you guys seen a psychic and what ever they told you ended up coming true? Also if so do you regret going/knowing what was going to happen.
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Post by K5 on Dec 24, 2010 22:05:33 GMT -5
i have my serious doubts over how legit they are, but my mom and sister went to one a couple weeks back who was surprisingly accurate. i think there is a lot of mind trickery that goes on, though.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 24, 2010 22:30:39 GMT -5
They are ridiculously bogus and have been proven to be bogus in double blind studies over and over again.
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Post by Dibiase # 1 Heel on Dec 24, 2010 22:44:11 GMT -5
They are ridiculously bogus and have been proven to be bogus in double blind studies over and over again. But have you experienced it for yourself? Or do you always listen to what everyone says? Not picking on ya just wondering
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Dec 24, 2010 23:54:07 GMT -5
I predicted you were going to post this.
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Post by Fave on Dec 25, 2010 0:07:20 GMT -5
I believe they are true, Never actually been to one nor do i want to, I don't want to know what might be in store for me in the future being it bad or good, I'd rather it naturally happen and be a surprise then know and go crazy when it maybe comes true.
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Post by K5 on Dec 25, 2010 1:16:04 GMT -5
They are ridiculously bogus and have been proven to be bogus in double blind studies over and over again. which is why the american military still hires them? there's some truth to being psychic, hulk...i mean, how the hell do you explain esp dreams? you can't.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Dec 25, 2010 5:05:01 GMT -5
I'm kinda mixed on them to be honest, theres a show on over here called Sensing Murder in which psychics are called in to solve police cases. Some of the stuff on there seems like a lot of BS, like when one of the psychics said that there would be a blade of grass spinning around close to where the body was found. I can't even think of how many countless times I've seen that happen in real life though. At the same time though, theres another psychic show, not sure of the name, in which the guy asks the audience questions (asking different audience members to pick a number as well as questions about their life) and at the end of the show, he opens a box thats been hanging above the stage the whole show with all everything that the crowd answered, like total of the numbers chosen etc. I love seeing how he had written down most of the answers before the show and the crowds reaction.
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 25, 2010 5:20:43 GMT -5
I only believe in one Psychic, Shawn Spencer. He even has his own Psychic detective agency that works with the Santa Barbra Police Department.
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Post by Focalin on Dec 25, 2010 6:51:52 GMT -5
I want to go to a psychic JUST to see if they great me with "I've been expecting you".
Also, my girlfriends aunt went to one...and the psychic mourned my Gf's aunt's mother passing away (without said aunt saying anything before hand) and she also knew her name.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 25, 2010 8:59:16 GMT -5
They are ridiculously bogus and have been proven to be bogus in double blind studies over and over again. But have you experienced it for yourself? Or do you always listen to what everyone says? Not picking on ya just wondering I've never made astronomical observations to test whether the earth really does orbit the sun instead of vice versa. I suppose I should assume that is false as well until I personally prove it?
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 25, 2010 16:43:02 GMT -5
But have you experienced it for yourself? Or do you always listen to what everyone says? Not picking on ya just wondering I've never made astronomical observations to test whether the earth really does orbit the sun instead of vice versa. I suppose I should assume that is false as well until I personally prove it? skep·tic –noun 1. a person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual. 2. a person who maintains a doubting attitude, as toward values, plans, statements, or the character of others. 3. a person who doubts the truth of a religion, esp. Christianity, or of important elements of it. its kind of his thing.....so yea he doesnt believe it lol My belief is there are people out there who can see things and do things that we think are abnormal. I also believe that these people do alot of good. With that said, I know alot of shysters exist in this world. People abuse actual things and in turn they flood in the idea that it has to be false. Sometimes I think a mind needs to expand into the spiritual and not spend so much time in the rational. Its ok to question things but some things in this world we do not understand everything about and this is one of them. All we have is lore and lies...what truth over the years has been flushed with the rest. Oh well though...it is just nature of humanity as we increase towards technological world and leaving the rest behind.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 25, 2010 18:48:03 GMT -5
I've never made astronomical observations to test whether the earth really does orbit the sun instead of vice versa. I suppose I should assume that is false as well until I personally prove it? skep·tic –noun 1. a person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual. 2. a person who maintains a doubting attitude, as toward values, plans, statements, or the character of others. 3. a person who doubts the truth of a religion, esp. Christianity, or of important elements of it. its kind of his thing.....so yea he doesnt believe it lol My belief is there are people out there who can see things and do things that we think are abnormal. I also believe that these people do alot of good. With that said, I know alot of shysters exist in this world. People abuse actual things and in turn they flood in the idea that it has to be false. Sometimes I think a mind needs to expand into the spiritual and not spend so much time in the rational. Its ok to question things but some things in this world we do not understand everything about and this is one of them. All we have is lore and lies...what truth over the years has been flushed with the rest. Oh well though...it is just nature of humanity as we increase towards technological world and leaving the rest behind. It's all about what's testable and what's not. That psychics have some sort of special abilities is a testable hypothesis. I can put a psychic in one room and sit in another room with a deck of cards in front of me. I can pull cards off the deck and the psychic can tell me what card I'm looking at. Since there are like 52 cards in the deck, then just plain guessing is going to get it right 1 out of 52 times. If the psychic can get it right just half of the time they're better than dumb luck and you've got evidence to support the idea that psychics are legit. If psychics do indeed have special powers, then why have they failed testing over and over again?
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Post by slappy on Dec 25, 2010 18:54:10 GMT -5
I think it's all a bunch of bullshit.
No, I've never been to one, because I don't feel like wasting my money on bullshit.
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 25, 2010 21:23:33 GMT -5
I respect points of view against it but to say that a card trick is what defines human potential is both foolish and a little reckless of a idea. For instance, there are people out there with genetic anomalies that act out in a physical way and some in a mental way. So if you look deep into the fact of how much of our potential we actually use, well the numbers are staggering. So if we use so little of our brain, whose to say that a genetic anomaly doesn't exist as other physical ones have and mental ones. I'm not saying that these people will read minds, bend spoons, or tell you your future. Most prolly wouldnt care to be labeled or known about because of the stigma of how people see them. You want science, ok psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/News/Meditation_Alters_Brain_WSJ_11-04.htmits not psychic ability or a genetic anomaly but a testament to human potential and the minds actual truths. we all have to believe what speaks to us and if all that speaks to you is your numbers and your hypothesis then so be it. I dont want to change anyones opinion, its not my place. I merely want to express the necessity in what most people view as "unproved data" when they themselves havent fully tested any of what they know or have read. but then again everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how wise, or uneducated a man or woman is and that's why I love human interaction and potential so much...just never know what were capable of. ;D
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 25, 2010 21:43:12 GMT -5
I respect points of view against it but to say that a card trick is what defines human potential is both foolish and a little reckless of a idea. No, it's not. It's accurate. I recently attended a Penn and Teller show. Penn was able to read the minds of three different people in the audience and know exactly what joke they were thinking of. Penn is not a psychic and has no psychic powers. He claims none and openly admits he's doing a stage trick. The trick is impressive for sure, but it's still just a stage magic trick. The first statement is completely false so your premise falls apart. It's completely inaccurate to say that we use little of our brain. Check out some MRIs and PET scans of brains sometimes. All areas of the brain are lit up and active at all times. Some are more active than others depending on what the person is doing at the time, but all the areas are lite up. There is not an area of the brain that is not used. Your premise is false. The fact that meditation alters brains has been observed over and over. How does that have anything to do with the idea that you can read someone's future or know something about them with "psychic powers"? Here's the thing. It's not about belief when it comes to psychics. They've been tested and proven to be false. Belief doesn't even factor in. Do you believe the Earth is round or flat? Honestly, it doesn't matter what you believe. The Earth is round whether you believe it's so or not. Your belief in psychics and psychic powers doesn't make them any more real than if you believed the Earth was flat. So apparently, you don't believe the Earth is round because you've never walked around yourself. You could look at pictures of it from space, but I'm guessing you've never been to space before, so those pictures could be faked and you haven't "fully tested" it. If you do believe the Earth is round, please tell me why when there's no way you could've tested it. It's not a matter of opinion here. It's a matter of fact. You can't just flat out deny hard solid facts. If you do so, then you're living in a fantasy world my friend.
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 25, 2010 23:18:08 GMT -5
simple then...let me end this like i end convos with a good friend of mine whose a way more accurate skeptic then most.
can you prove to me...beyond any reasonable human doubt that the plausibility of one man to live or to have ever lived, has been able to do things that are not ordinary by any measure?
and if you can prove such a thing then I will concede to your "facts."
The truth is, I dont believe in the conventional commercial psychic and I know the tricks and a bit of the trade. But where I draw my line is to say that it is impossible for a man or woman to have an extraordianary ability at all. I'm not saying that there are thousands and millions of these people occuring but you can say with no data that person might have something that makes them "special."
Whether it be a super brain, super strength, and so forth. Let me state something a bit more active to people. Take Stan Lee's superhumans show. They find these random genetic anomalies that we dont see daily. And they exist all over the world and are so rare. So for one to say with such accuracy the falsehood of humanities ability to evolve as it grows or even to have odd ball cases, when we already know oddities(in a good way and bad) exist within our world.
quote to me your data and show me the numbers that say that this does not occur and all of us are all the same and no one in history has been something more or less the what we deem as "human."
Then like I said...you will win and I will concede to a life of just the facts that people put out there for me.
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Post by slappy on Dec 25, 2010 23:20:52 GMT -5
There is a difference between say Marilu Henner's ability to recall every single day of her life, which only 6 people including her can do in the entire world and someone claiming to know the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2010 23:29:43 GMT -5
I as a magician, believe psychics are full of BS. If not how come no one has claimed Randi's 1 mill yet?
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 25, 2010 23:47:09 GMT -5
There is a difference between say Marilu Henner's ability to recall every single day of her life, which only 6 people including her can do in the entire world and someone claiming to know the future. psy·chicADJECTIVE 1. of human mind: relating to the human mind 2. outside scientific knowledge: outside the sphere of scientific knowledge 3. supposedly sensitive to supernatural forces: claiming, or believed to have, extraordinary sensitivity to nonphysical or supernatural forces 4. clairvoyant: able, or considered able, to perceive people's unexpressed thoughts or foresee the future ( informal ) so it does have to do with it and clairvoyance is not neccessary a claim of all psychic. so yea...
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