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Post by Sonnen on Mar 16, 2011 8:04:28 GMT -5
I disagree with that. I don't think if he beats Jones, he is the number one Light Heavyweight. Right now, I think Rashad Evans is the number one Light Heavyweight. And I do believe Rashad WOULD have beaten Shogun. If Jones wins tomorrow, are you gonna say he's the best Light Heavyweight? I sure as hell won't. Yes, I will. Shogun is the #1 heavyweight in the world right now, and if Jones beats him, Jones will be #1. Simple. I agree with this, you can have your personal favorites and you can say one guys is better because of his record and past but. But the right to claim you're the best in the world at that time is by wearing the biggest promotions championship in that division.
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Post by the hell demon on Mar 17, 2011 23:38:29 GMT -5
Shogun looking absolute beast.
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Post by James Hetfield on Mar 18, 2011 8:32:37 GMT -5
Just arrived in Newark and I was able to check out the latest "MMA Live" on ESPN and Jon Jones just said "I question his heart". What the ? I truly believe this will be the biggest ego destruction and hype derailing of a fighter in the UFC thus far. The fact that he can question the heart of one of the most battle-tested fighters of all time, who has never shown any quit in him, shows just how delusional Jones is coming into this fight. It's going to be a big wake up call for him and all those who are doubting Shogun.
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Post by Hawks_NFC West Champions on Mar 18, 2011 9:13:13 GMT -5
Predicting Jones to win rd 2 TKO
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 18, 2011 12:11:35 GMT -5
Just arrived in Newark and I was able to check out the latest "MMA Live" on ESPN and Jon Jones just said "I question his heart". What the ? I truly believe this will be the biggest ego destruction and hype derailing of a fighter in the UFC thus far. The fact that he can question the heart of one of the most battle-tested fighters of all time, who has never shown any quit in him, shows just how delusional Jones is coming into this fight. It's going to be a big wake up call for him and all those who are doubting Shogun. Wow, completely agreed man.
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 18, 2011 15:55:07 GMT -5
Just arrived in Newark and I was able to check out the latest "MMA Live" on ESPN and Jon Jones just said "I question his heart". What the ? I truly believe this will be the biggest ego destruction and hype derailing of a fighter in the UFC thus far. The fact that he can question the heart of one of the most battle-tested fighters of all time, who has never shown any quit in him, shows just how delusional Jones is coming into this fight. It's going to be a big wake up call for him and all those who are doubting Shogun. Jones is genuinely a nice guy, seems odd he would say something like that, but I don't think he is egotistical, he doesn't come off that way to me. He seems confident and he has the right to be, but he isn't even sounding cock about it. Watching UFC in the moment, I really like him. I hope he does well and lives up the hype and continues onward from there. Has the potential to be a massive face with in the company. Aged 23, talented, and just seems a really good guy you want representing you as a champion.
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Post by James Hetfield on Mar 18, 2011 15:56:13 GMT -5
MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)
Mauricio Rua (205) vs. Jon Jones (205) Urijah Faber (135.5) vs. Eddie Wineland (135.5) Nate Marquardt (186) vs. Dan Miller (185) Mirko Filipović (229) vs. Brendan Schaub (245) Jim Miller (155.5) vs. Kamal Shalorus (155)
PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
Luiz Cane (205.5) vs. Eliot Marshall (205) Edson Barboza (155.5) vs. Anthony Njokuani (155)
PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)
Ricardo Almeida (170) vs. Mike Pyle (171) Kurt Pellegrino (156) vs. Gleison Tibau (155)
PRELIMINARY CARD
Joseph Benavidez (136) vs. Ian Loveland (135) Nick Catone (194) vs. Costantinos Philippou (195) Raphael Assuncao (145) vs. Erik Koch (145)
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Post by HoganBai on Mar 18, 2011 21:47:27 GMT -5
Want Jones to win, because I'd really like him to live up to the hype. I think Shogun will batter him though
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Post by s13driver on Mar 19, 2011 0:54:08 GMT -5
Jon Jones is in beast-mode right now. I'm thinking he's gonna beat Shogun but I'm routing for Shogun 100%. I love that dude.
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Mar 19, 2011 1:20:34 GMT -5
If Jones loses, he'll be fine. He;s really young and talented, and from losing to Rua, he'd learn a lot, and know how to fight such a taltned fighter better. Sometimes losing can make you better, you have to look at where you were beaten and improve your game in that area. I think Jones loses now, but he'll come back with a huge win overanother top fighter in the division, get another title shot, whether against rua or someone else, and then win the big one.
Shogun via 4th Round submission is my pick.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 19, 2011 1:36:31 GMT -5
Just arrived in Newark and I was able to check out the latest "MMA Live" on ESPN and Jon Jones just said "I question his heart". What the ? I truly believe this will be the biggest ego destruction and hype derailing of a fighter in the UFC thus far. The fact that he can question the heart of one of the most battle-tested fighters of all time, who has never shown any quit in him, shows just how delusional Jones is coming into this fight. It's going to be a big wake up call for him and all those who are doubting Shogun. I think that's unfair. Jones said on MMA Live that he questioned Shogun's heart against Griffin and Coleman... that he tired easily and didn't like guys fighting him "in the pocket" - and that a guy like Machida was made for his style. Which are fair comments. I don't think people are doubting Shogun... it's more a case of Jones being so gifted/talented and exciting. It's kind of like the first Matt Hughes/GSP fight... you could tell GSP was something special, but he was still fairly inexperienced. Will it be too soon for Jones? That's the question...
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Post by James Hetfield on Mar 19, 2011 1:42:35 GMT -5
The Griffin fight was 4 years ago and the Coleman fight was 2 years ago.
Jones is just too full of himself.
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Post by BAD LUCK BRIAN on Mar 19, 2011 2:33:39 GMT -5
lets see if jones can really live to his hype or fail my pick is shogun by 3rd round tko
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Post by Sandy on Mar 19, 2011 2:49:26 GMT -5
jeez i find this fight SO much more interesting than Evans vs. Rua. Really don't agree with Evans getting the winner of this fight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 7:12:22 GMT -5
PUMPED.
Bones is so cocky, i normally like cocky personas but there is something about his cocky / humbleness i just don't like at all.
Side note, Shogun has THE best walk out t-shirts in the business. Going to be rocking his new shirt for the fights tonight after i buy it at a local MMA show I'm attending first.
WAR RUA, Victory by KO/Stoppage
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Post by PrideFcF on Mar 19, 2011 7:28:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't dislike Jones by any means, but there's usually a little arrogant undertone to some of his interviews. Almost like he's struggling not to let loose a little. He's one of those guys that I wouldn't be shocked to see slowly get more and more openly boisterous, and blur the line between cocky and confident as time goes on.
Anyways, I'm excited for the fight. I think Bones is going to give Shogun trouble, live up to most of the hype, but come up just a little short in the end. There's a few loose ends in Bones game that I've noticed in recent fights. Unless he tightened those up, I can see him getting caught while trying to be unorthodox.
Either way, this is a huge fight. I wish someone I knew was ordering it, but whatever. I'll be refreshing the live blog as this thing unfolds later tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 7:37:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't dislike Jones by any means, but there's usually a little arrogant undertone to some of his interviews. Almost like he's struggling not to let loose a little. He's one of those guys that I wouldn't be shocked to see slowly get more and more openly boisterous, and blur the line between cocky and confident as time goes on. Anyways, I'm excited for the fight. I think Bones is going to give Shogun trouble, live up to most of the hype, but come up just a little short in the end. There's a few loose ends in Bones game that I've noticed in recent fights. Unless he tightened those up, I can see him getting caught while trying to be unorthodox. Either way, this is a huge fight. I wish someone I knew was ordering it, but whatever. I'll be refreshing the live blog as this thing unfolds later tonight. I think if Jones tries a spinning back elbow and it fails he's being taken down. Hard to gauge Shoguns gameplan for this fight as he is very good at tactical striking, yet he's lost in the reach department. So it will be interesting , sucks you don't know anyone ordering it. I assume you're against S*reams
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Post by shenmue on Mar 19, 2011 9:53:38 GMT -5
Shogun vs Jones is really tough to call because Shogun doesn't always look great after surgery but i think Shogun gets the stoppage as long as he can keep in on the feet. Bones Jones could Elbow is way to victory but i hope not.
Crop Cop is finished as a top fighter and will get knocked out or stopped tonight, Faber should win by submission.
I think Marquardt and Shalorus will win as well but both are tough to predict.
Am i right in saying this PPV starts at 2am over here in the UK tonight because America put their clocks forward last week?.
(we don't put them forward until next Saturday)
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 19, 2011 15:23:13 GMT -5
I think a big question in this fight is, if Jones gets hit, and gets his hard, what will happen?
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Post by 1992 on Mar 19, 2011 15:27:51 GMT -5
Shogun should stomp him on the ground for insulting his family.
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