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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Jan 11, 2011 8:53:45 GMT -5
In January 4 of 2010, TNA challenged, or at-least tried to, challenge the WWE by going head to head against RAW. TNA's rating SLIGHTLY increased over their usual rating, and RAW's got a lower than usual rating I believe. My question is, why weren't the fan's pushing for TNA? Don't get me wrong, I actually barely watch TNA, I will be now that Mr. Kennedy/Anderson is World Champion, and I'm a huge fan of MCMG. And ofcourse I am a huge WWE fan & always have been.
But had we pushed TNA on, we could have been getting QUALITY wrestling shows since, both would be trying to out do each other and we would be getting another Monday Night War, I remember the excitement over both TNA & WWE, and both disappointing , TNA tried to cram in too many things, and for RAW it was just another episode. I really wish TNA could be a bigger competition, we could be getting 10x the product we get today, and after around 5 years Vince could buy TNA, hopefully, and then can sign talents like D'Angelo Dinero, Mr. Anderson, MCMG, Beer Money, Morgan and Desmond Wolfe.
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Post by duan on Jan 11, 2011 9:04:01 GMT -5
raw was a regular episode? BRET HART ING RETURNED.
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Post by tom on Jan 11, 2011 9:13:49 GMT -5
Why reward TNA with momentum when they're putting on a crappy show? You can't just assume that both of them will lift their games and end up like WWF/WCW.
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Post by Flava Dave on Jan 11, 2011 9:19:00 GMT -5
Just because a lot of people watch a show, that doesn't automatically make it good. The Big Bang Theory is living proof of this. People gave TNA a chance and they somehow managed to all that up and actually lose a decent amount of their audience for a few months.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 9:19:08 GMT -5
I was a huge TNA fan in 2009 and urged everybody to check out the 1/4 show, but it was god awful. TNA can't compete with WWE.
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Post by Vintage ToneBoat on Jan 11, 2011 9:49:50 GMT -5
TNA doesn't have the means to be as big of a show as raw. Raw is a big time television production and that's what it comes down to. Plus they have "better" writers and TNA is usually just a cluster of gibberish are nonsensical storylines.
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Post by machoking on Jan 11, 2011 10:16:43 GMT -5
TNA has every opportunity to make a name for themselves, they have an amazing roster and a prime time slot on television but they continually themselves over.
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 10:20:45 GMT -5
that company.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jan 11, 2011 10:53:18 GMT -5
that company.
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 11, 2011 11:14:34 GMT -5
Both brands are equally miserable consistently. I have never understood this either. If TNA succeeds, ultimately their product will be better and so will WWE's. I don't see how anyone who is a wrestling fan could want either company to fail. Jericho was pretty much hitting the nail on the head when he was talking about it at Ringside Fest.
People will just always hate the competition when they are rabid WWE fans. Why do you think the Invasion was as poorly booked as it was? Because WWE knew that they had "won the war" and that mentality trickles down to their fans. WCW was nothing more than "the enemy" at the time, just like TNA is "the enemy" now.
Either way, nobody should fault TNA for having a crappy show when WWE's show is just as crappy
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Post by ICW on Jan 11, 2011 11:28:47 GMT -5
I don't root for TNA because it's a loss cost. What exactly is there to root for? Their uncanny ability to bring in talent I and most other people could care less about? Their poorly booked television shows and Pay Per Views? Maybe I should root for their utter miuse of the good talent that they have? TNA
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 11:30:01 GMT -5
Both brands are equally miserable consistently. I have never understood this either. If TNA succeeds, ultimately their product will be better and so will WWE's. I don't see how anyone who is a wrestling fan could want either company to fail. Jericho was pretty much hitting the nail on the head when he was talking about it at Ringside Fest. People will just always hate the competition when they are rabid WWE fans. Why do you think the Invasion was as poorly booked as it was? Because WWE knew that they had "won the war" and that mentality trickles down to their fans. WCW was nothing more than "the enemy" at the time, just like TNA is "the enemy" now. Either way, nobody should fault TNA for having a crappy show when WWE's show is just as crappy See I used to believe that too, saying that anybody rooting against TNA was rooting against wrestling. But honestly going on nine years of existence TNA is such a ed up brand that has no clue or plan from month to month, let alone year to year. At this point I would rather see them shut their doors and have another company, one without all of TNA's many hindrances, swoop in and grab the talent that they waste. Also ROH > WWE/TNA, all you jerks should support that.
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Post by muccguy88 on Jan 11, 2011 11:31:47 GMT -5
i think 3 letters had a major impact on this monday night war... DVR. theres no real need to compete. i used to watch raw live and record tna and watch it after raw. im sure a lot of people did that.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jan 11, 2011 11:34:51 GMT -5
I can think of 2 reasons:
1. Impact's product quality at the time was terrible. So terrible, in fact, that Monday Night War 2: Electric Boogaloo is nominated for the 2010 Gooker (and currently winning the voting).
2. Even though Impact was going head-to-head with Raw, they were only live every other week. If you look at what went on with each individual episode, you notice that every time Raw was advertising some sort of major draw, Impact was pre-recorded that night. Anyone who was torn on which one to watch could easily find out what was going to happen on Impact that night.
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Post by Flava Dave on Jan 11, 2011 11:44:54 GMT -5
Also ROH > WWE/TNA, all you jerks should support that. <3
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 11, 2011 11:48:35 GMT -5
Both brands are equally miserable consistently. I have never understood this either. If TNA succeeds, ultimately their product will be better and so will WWE's. I don't see how anyone who is a wrestling fan could want either company to fail. Jericho was pretty much hitting the nail on the head when he was talking about it at Ringside Fest. People will just always hate the competition when they are rabid WWE fans. Why do you think the Invasion was as poorly booked as it was? Because WWE knew that they had "won the war" and that mentality trickles down to their fans. WCW was nothing more than "the enemy" at the time, just like TNA is "the enemy" now. Either way, nobody should fault TNA for having a crappy show when WWE's show is just as crappy See I used to believe that too, saying that anybody rooting against TNA was rooting against wrestling. But honestly going on nine years of existence TNA is such a ed up brand that has no clue or plan from month to month, let alone year to year. At this point I would rather see them shut their doors and have another company, one without all of TNA's many hindrances, swoop in and grab the talent that they waste. Also ROH > WWE/TNA, all you jerks should support that. I don't know if I like the idea of TNA dying as a brand because I can't see another company getting the level of exposure they currently have for a long time. I can definitely get behind the ROH> WWE/TNA cause, though. I like ROH and I'm an even bigger DGUSA fan so any day of the week if either of those were easily accessible to me I would watch them over WWE and TNA. I just don't think I will ever understand the product bashing when comparing WWE and TNA. In my eyes both products are bad, just in different ways. Just on that same level, both have their good aspects in different ways as well. Oh well
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jan 11, 2011 11:51:17 GMT -5
What don't I understand? How some of you can want us to care for and watch a product that we despise, in hopes that us watching it will make it better. It doesn't work like that. When they start to churn out their own big stars, and put on weekly shows that people care about, then they'll bring in new viewers.
It's such a cop out to blame the failure of MNW2 and TNA as a whole on the fans not supporting it.
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Post by extreme on Jan 11, 2011 12:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 12:36:32 GMT -5
See I used to believe that too, saying that anybody rooting against TNA was rooting against wrestling. But honestly going on nine years of existence TNA is such a ed up brand that has no clue or plan from month to month, let alone year to year. At this point I would rather see them shut their doors and have another company, one without all of TNA's many hindrances, swoop in and grab the talent that they waste. Also ROH > WWE/TNA, all you jerks should support that. I don't know if I like the idea of TNA dying as a brand because I can't see another company getting the level of exposure they currently have for a long time. I can definitely get behind the ROH> WWE/TNA cause, though. I like ROH and I'm an even bigger DGUSA fan so any day of the week if either of those were easily accessible to me I would watch them over WWE and TNA. I just don't think I will ever understand the product bashing when comparing WWE and TNA. In my eyes both products are bad, just in different ways. Just on that same level, both have their good aspects in different ways as well. Oh well I guess what frustrates me about TNA more than WWE is that TNA could do whatever they want and instead they choose to be WWE Junior. For better or worse WWE is a public company and a giant corporation and they're basically always going to be what they are. TNA could focus on wrestling or they could focus on having interesting storylines that aren't half-baked or filled with gaping logic holes but instead they churn out the same WCW Thunder in 1999 type of programming each week. And their inability to create stars is so far beyond ridiculous. WWE is developing a crop of excellent superstars in Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, Wade Barrett, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston and others, all of whom have or will main event in the future. And so what does TNA do? Consistently job out your best homegrown talent (Styles, Joe, Lethal), yo-yo push talent that has legitimately gotten over in TNA (Pope, Wolfe, Morgan), and always and forever put over former stars from wrestling's past (Hardys, Van Dam, Mr. Kennedy, Jarrett, Angle, Sting, Nash).
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Post by Flava Dave on Jan 11, 2011 12:38:04 GMT -5
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