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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 11:35:14 GMT -5
Thats giving away tickets. You are paying to go to universal not for impact. No one is sitting there and saying "Lets go pay 99 dollars to go to impact tonight". They cant have a impact show and charge because no one would go. Why do you think people complain that TNA impact crowds tend to be bland. You're kidding me... right? They are buying them and you can tell that because each month's pay-per-view you can see fans wearing the passes that you get when you buy it. They can't have an iMPACT show and charge? Yeah, besides the one on Febuary 24th in Fayetville, NC? You just need to stop. Seriously, just stop... you are just embarrassing yourself now.
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Post by Squared² on Jan 23, 2011 11:35:23 GMT -5
The only thing not being taken seriously in TNA... and thats the bottom line. TNA has to give tickets away for people to attend Impact and trust me I know that for a fact. If you give AJ Styles and Kurt Angle pay cuts than you won't have any wrestling??? Why you think they have wrestlers signing deals that are paying them for appearances??? and thats from actual wrestlers from TNA. I do have facts, there is little interest in TNA. Why do you think last year they cancelled serveral house shows? There was not enough interest. You guys keep talking about proof and evidence. What evidance says that TNA is making it. They got booted out of Monday Night Time Slot, they have to tape their impact shows for the month in one week, they have wrestling shows in 4000 seat auditoriums (had one in my area 2 weeks ago), had Reaction cancelled on them. Thats factual evidence that slowly but surely is pointing to the demise of TNA. It's time for a change in TNA Oh this will be fun... 1.) They also have talents under pay-per-month deals including [but not limited to]: AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, Sting, Hulk Hogan, etc. The pay-per-apperance deals also keep them on the up and up by calling their talent "independent contractors" as apposed to "other companies" who just refer to their talent as that despite it no being true. It helps with the legally, but also avoids having to pay talent when not in use which is a smart business decision. 2.) Wow, the canceled house shows... oh no! Yes, wrestling shows [or any kind of shows] will get canceled. WWE has done it in the past and they'll do it in the future. 3.) Uh, no they do not... TNA tapes every two weeks [Monday and Tuesday] for a totally of four days a month. The only times they do a months worth of tapings in one week is a.) to give their talent two weeks off for the holidays or b.) when they have an overseas tour much like now. It's no different than other companies taping an extra week of shows when they go overseas. 4.) ReAction wasn't canceled on them... ReAction was never set to run the entire length, that was known to everyone from the start of things. It was signed for ten episodes and then picked up for another ten to close it off nicely instead of just stopping in the middle of the year. You have provided no facts other than what you found on "da interwebz" instead of following your own advice... and listening to the talent. Again... you're a hypocrite and a flip-flopper. EDIT: Also, TNA doesn't "give away" tickets to iMPACT... that's not a fact because if you knew the REAL FACTS. TNA isn't allowed by Universeal Studios to sell tickets to the events [they found a loophole as I explain in a minute], because it's inside a park that people have already paid for. You don't get charged when you ride the Twister ride, why? You already paid to get it. TNA has loop-holed this by offering $100 VIP specials that gets you into the pay-per-view and both iMPACT tapings along with some other goodies. Those my friend, are the actual facts... they don't "give" away free tickets to iMPACT, they aren't allowed to sell tickets to the show besides the new loophole. Nice true, but again... nope.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 11:38:16 GMT -5
Thats giving away tickets. You are paying to go to universal not for impact. No one is sitting there and saying "Lets go pay 99 dollars to go to impact tonight". They cant have a impact show and charge because no one would go. Why do you think people complain that TNA impact crowds tend to be bland. You can't give away freaking tickets... if you aren't allowed by contract to sell them. Jesus...
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 11:49:09 GMT -5
This is for Vince Russo. TNA is a great wrestling promotion that any TV station would love to have for its programming. TNA with its millions of fans will be able to compete with WWE for years to come.
Now that is totally false..
This is the question than...Are you TNA fans satisifed with the Current TNA? Do you think there need to be changes or is the Current TNA just fine? This is an opportunity for TNA fans to state what they really feel about the current TNA
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 11:51:54 GMT -5
Yes, I am satisfied with the current TNA.
Of course, there is always need and room for changes... nobody in this entire thread has said there isn't...
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 11:53:48 GMT -5
Thats giving away tickets. You are paying to go to universal not for impact. No one is sitting there and saying "Lets go pay 99 dollars to go to impact tonight". They cant have a impact show and charge because no one would go. Why do you think people complain that TNA impact crowds tend to be bland. You're kidding me... right? They are buying them and you can tell that because each month's pay-per-view you can see fans wearing the passes that you get when you buy it. They can't have an iMPACT show and charge? Yeah, besides the one on Febuary 24th in Fayetville, NC? You just need to stop. Seriously, just stop... you are just embarrassing yourself now. We are not talking about paying to attend PPV's? Impact tv shows are free to Universal visitors. Are you happy because they are traveling out of orlando for a couple of impacts? The only one embarrassing themselves is you vince russo because you sit there making TNA sound like they are the second coming of WWE. Good luck with that argument.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jan 23, 2011 11:54:01 GMT -5
This is for Vince Russo. TNA is a great wrestling promotion that any TV station would love to have for its programming. TNA with its millions of fans will be able to compete with WWE for years to come. Now that is totally false.. This is the question than... Are you TNA fans satisifed with the Current TNA? Do you think there need to be changes or is the Current TNA just fine? This is an opportunity for TNA fans to state what they really feel about the current TNAI mean I feel your point but I mean of course I enjoy TNA but there can always be changes made. I think it is that way with any company. I think we all can agree that it will be a little while before TNA can get on the stage or even within shooting distance to what WWE is right now. So to answer your question, Am I satisfied with the current TNA product? I enjoy it but am not completely satisfied. Does their need to be changes? Of course, but I believe every company could use change in some way or another.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 11:57:27 GMT -5
You're kidding me... right? They are buying them and you can tell that because each month's pay-per-view you can see fans wearing the passes that you get when you buy it. They can't have an iMPACT show and charge? Yeah, besides the one on Febuary 24th in Fayetville, NC? You just need to stop. Seriously, just stop... you are just embarrassing yourself now. We are not talking about paying to attend PPV's? Impact tv shows are free to Universal visitors. Are you happy because they are traveling out of orlando for a couple of impacts? The only one embarrassing themselves is you vince russo because you sit there making TNA sound like they are the second coming of WWE. Good luck with that argument. And if you would learn to read, you would know that the VIP package gets you into the pay-per-view on Sunday and both iMPACT tapings [Monday/Tuesday] as I originally stated. Yes, I know iMPACT is free to visitors... I'm well aware of that... I don't think nor am I making TNA sound like the "second coming of WWE". I'm just posting facts that you have ignored, nothing more and nothing less. If you didn't want someone to prove your misinformed posts wrong, then you shouldn't have made this post. I have just told you the facts as they are, bottom line.
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Post by ICW on Jan 23, 2011 12:16:26 GMT -5
My biggest beef with TNAa is how they use their talent. If you just think about some of their current and former roster memebers, TNA had the chance to create something really, really, really different (and actually compelling) compared to the WWE. Does that mean they have to get rid of the older wrestlers? Not really; just book them the right way. And that's their issue: they have terrible booking that more often than not makes ZERO sense.
TNA gets a lot of crap from people because it's not different than the WWE. More often than not, it's WORSE than what WWE does and that's saying something. I don't win TNA to fail; in fact, I want them to offer something so different than what the WWE is doing. I think everyone wants that.
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 12:24:33 GMT -5
We are not talking about paying to attend PPV's? Impact tv shows are free to Universal visitors. Are you happy because they are traveling out of orlando for a couple of impacts? The only one embarrassing themselves is you vince russo because you sit there making TNA sound like they are the second coming of WWE. Good luck with that argument. And if you would learn to read, you would know that the VIP package gets you into the pay-per-view on Sunday and both iMPACT tapings [Monday/Tuesday] as I originally stated. Yes, I know iMPACT is free to visitors... I'm well aware of that... I don't think nor am I making TNA sound like the "second coming of WWE". I'm just posting facts that you have ignored, nothing more and nothing less. If you didn't want someone to prove your misinformed posts wrong, then you shouldn't have made this post. I have just told you the facts as they are, bottom line. They are your facts from your opinions.....Unless you are the real vince russo ;D Do me a favor and state all "THE FACTS" again. I watched TNA before Hogan and with Hogan, and the product has declined not improved.
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 12:38:37 GMT -5
By the way at Amway Arena in Orlando in Nov. Raw was in orlando (when the miz became a champion) and while waiting on line TNA people came over to us as we were getting into raw and gave us a card and talked to us about how TNA is more real and we don't have cheap story lines, and that TNA has the wrestlers you grew up with. They said you could come down to Universal and watch the show for free. All you had to do is pay for parking and go to the city walk and line up by TNA entrance and they let you in for free.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jan 23, 2011 13:16:03 GMT -5
You're kidding me... right? They are buying them and you can tell that because each month's pay-per-view you can see fans wearing the passes that you get when you buy it. They can't have an iMPACT show and charge? Yeah, besides the one on Febuary 24th in Fayetville, NC? You just need to stop. Seriously, just stop... you are just embarrassing yourself now. We are not talking about paying to attend PPV's? Impact tv shows are free to Universal visitors. Are you happy because they are traveling out of orlando for a couple of impacts? The only one embarrassing themselves is you vince russo because you sit there making TNA sound like they are the second coming of WWE. Good luck with that argument. OH MY GOD! You just spent your time and effort saying "TNA gives away it's tickets for Impact" and now you're basically re-stating what Vince Russo just said This is for Vince Russo. TNA is a great wrestling promotion that any TV station would love to have for its programming. TNA with its millions of fans will be able to compete with WWE for years to come. Now that is totally false.. This is the question than...Are you TNA fans satisifed with the Current TNA? Do you think there need to be changes or is the Current TNA just fine? This is an opportunity for TNA fans to state what they really feel about the current TNA Man this is getting funnier and funnier with you. As soon as Vince Russo provides arguments that completely obliterate your last statements, you go and change the subject I for one am pleased with everything in TNA apart from the X-division, I actually like it a lot more since Hogan and Bischoff came into the company but that's just me.
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Post by k5 on Jan 23, 2011 13:47:41 GMT -5
That is the biggest lie Bischoff has convinced people as being the truth. When WCW was acquired as part of the AOL/ Time Warner deal, WCW lost 60 million in the previous year. It was no longer a viable company. If it was the hot product making millions like in years past, it wouldn't have been sold. the name value of wcw in itself was still worth millions. the company itself was worth over 60 million. the invasion angle in the wwe cost them millions of dollars as well, does that mean that the wwe was permanently in the toilet? nope, it means they made some really bad choices and needed some revision. once again...no. immortal isn't anywhere near as dominant as the nwo was, and is already facing it's end when it culminates against whoever 'they' are. it's a temporary storyline to help the old guys put new guys over. i mean, if you're going to relate it to something, at least say the millionaire club/new blood angle...that would actually make some sense.
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 13:57:14 GMT -5
"OH MY GOD! You just spent your time and effort saying "TNA gives away it's tickets for Impact" and now you're basically re-stating what Vince Russo just said"
What are you talking about. I said TNA is giving tickets for free away for impact tapings. Vince Russo brought up PPVs. You can see impact free and you can get in even without buying a ticket to Universal Studios. All you have to do is pay for parking go to the Universal City Walk and wait in line at the gate of impact. I know people who have done it. So maybe they don't actually give away tickets but you get in for free which is the same thing in my opinion. Vince Russo and others here are stating things as facts from their opinions. What facts are out there that shows TNA is good. I brought up ratings and you TNa fans say you can't go by ratings. I go by size of venues and you say I cant use that. No one here can state that anything is fact like how Russo is stating (and others). Once again state your facts, because thats all they are your facts not real facts. I brought up hogan and bischoff taking pay cuts and you TNA guys say "nobody knows if that is totally true". The only thing we can go by is our opinions of watching and attending the product shows. If you want to sit there and say TNA is awesome and it fine as is, than thats your opinion and feelings. My opinion is I watch TNA Impact and its PPV's and it is reminding me of WCW in the late 90's and early 2000's. The story lines and even some of the same characters have formed my opinion on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 13:59:08 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint, but TNA is nothing like WCW in 2000. Let's see... crappy Booking, repetitive storylines and C-list celebrities? Sounds a LOT like current WWE to me.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 14:02:36 GMT -5
"OH MY GOD! You just spent your time and effort saying "TNA gives away it's tickets for Impact" and now you're basically re-stating what Vince Russo just said" What are you talking about. I said TNA is giving tickets for free away for impact tapings. Vince Russo brought up PPVs. You can see impact free and you can get in even without buying a ticket to Universal Studios. All you have to do is pay for parking go to the Universal City Walk and wait in line at the gate of impact. I know people who have done it. So maybe they don't actually give away tickets but you get in for free which is the same thing in my opinion. Vince Russo and others here are stating things as facts from their opinions. What facts are out there that shows TNA is good. I brought up ratings and you TNa fans say you can't go by ratings. I go by size of venues and you say I cant use that. No one here can state that anything is fact like how Russo is stating (and others). Once again state your facts, because thats all they are your facts not real facts. I brought up hogan and bischoff taking pay cuts and you TNA guys say "nobody knows if that is totally true". The only thing we can go by is our opinions of watching and attending the product shows. If you want to sit there and say TNA is awesome and it fine as is, than thats your opinion and feelings. My opinion is I watch TNA Impact and its PPV's and it is reminding me of WCW in the late 90's and early 2000's. The story lines and even some of the same characters have formed my opinion on this. *sigh* - one more freaking time: TNA offers V.I.P specials for $100 that gets you into a pay-per-view, Monday iMPACT taping, and Tuesday iMPACT taping. So, yes people have paid to get into iMPACT before... which was my entire point. Also, almost everything I have said that wasn't about the actual product was pure fact. You were wrong on why SpikeTV/TNA got a deal. You were wrong on why they resigned with TNA for three years. Do I need to keep going? I backed up everything I said with facts, you just made some up bullcrap.
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Post by mase307 on Jan 23, 2011 14:21:41 GMT -5
TNA could try to sell vip passes, but the fact is you can get into impact for free which is what I originally said!!!! Why would I buy VIP passes if I could get into Impact free (which i have before)? And you know for a FACT that Spike renewed TNA without ever knowing Hulk Hogan was coming??? You cant say that because you weren't in their negotiations. You state this as fact. It was announced in August 2009 that they would extend the deal starting in Oct 2009. Hogan was introduced in Oct 2009. It is my opinion that they knew Hogan was coming and decided to extend TNA. Your OPINION is that they extended TNA with or without Hogan. We both cant state that as Fact because we arent their negotiating. Its our opinion.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 23, 2011 14:47:19 GMT -5
By the way at Amway Arena in Orlando in Nov. Raw was in orlando ( when the miz became a champion) and while waiting on line TNA people came over to us as we were getting into raw and gave us a card and talked to us about how TNA is more real and we don't have cheap story lines, and that TNA has the wrestlers you grew up with. They said you could come down to Universal and watch the show for free. All you had to do is pay for parking and go to the city walk and line up by TNA entrance and they let you in for free. ;D Nobody ever said TNA is perfect and it isnt, but I like it for what it is-an alternative to the WWE.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 23, 2011 14:49:00 GMT -5
It's not bout them "trying" to sell VIP passes, they are and they're doing a fantastic job with them, that is not what you said actually. You said nobody would pay to get into iMPACT... which they obviously are if they're paying $99 to get a guarantee seat at a PPV and two tapings, they obviously are.
About the entire Hogan/TNA thing, yes... I'm pretty damn confident that SpikeTV had no idea that Hogan had signed when they resigned with TNA Wrestling in AUGUST . Would you like to know why? I'll be glad to tell you, better yet I'll let the words of Dixie Carter from an interview tell you... and I quote:
I doubt that SpikeTV knew in AUGUST that Hogan was coming in, hell, I doubt Dixie Carter knew Hogan was coming to TNA in August. So, I will stand by my word and say that SpikeTV didn't resign with TNA because of Hogan.
Not three months in advance of him coming in, the deal still started in 26 days before Hogan signed... major difference there.
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Post by ICW on Jan 23, 2011 14:52:21 GMT -5
By the way at Amway Arena in Orlando in Nov. Raw was in orlando ( when the miz became a champion) and while waiting on line TNA people came over to us as we were getting into raw and gave us a card and talked to us about how TNA is more real and we don't have cheap story lines, and that TNA has the wrestlers you grew up with. They said you could come down to Universal and watch the show for free. All you had to do is pay for parking and go to the city walk and line up by TNA entrance and they let you in for free. ;D Nobody ever said TNA is perfect and it isnt, but I like it for what it is-an alternative to the WWE. It's hardly an alternative to the WWE. Sometimes it could be switching from crap (WWE) to something even crappier (TNA) or switching from crap (WWE) to something just as crappy (TNA). I've rarely been blown away by TNA, especially recently. And what exactly is there to be blown away with?
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