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Post by The Undertaker on Feb 20, 2011 23:20:16 GMT -5
No...I would've been happy if they had planned something else from a few months back...i wasn't specifically saying I would rather have Lawler/Cena. Of course i'd rather have Cena/Miz over that.. Planned something else form a few months back? Erm Okay, They started Building Miz vs Cena at The RR, not to mention the past between the two. Yes...I'm aware of that.. But like I said. Would have much rather enjoyed a better Main Event than Cena/Miz.
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Post by cattlemutilation on Feb 20, 2011 23:21:22 GMT -5
"My question now, regarding Morrison, is when do they let him take it to the next level? He's an absolute star in every mach he's in, and WWE is booking him that way. He's thrilling, exciting, incredibly over, and has all the makings of a new-era main eventer, but when are they going to let him get over that hump?"
Maybe if one day he could ever use a microphone and not make most people cringe.
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Post by Gazza on Feb 20, 2011 23:21:25 GMT -5
It's funny because all of you who are saying the PPV sucked, or the Raw EC sucked etc would have a entirely different view if Cena didn't win the chamber. Rather sad, actually. The ending of a match can TOTALLY change my view on it overall. Just like a movie. It can be all great until the end, and if that's anticlimactic or predictable, how is it unreasonable or "sad" to hate/dislike the match? Because the match was a good match, the PPV was good. But to hate the match or the PPV just because Cena won is sad, Maybe actually enjoy the wrestling first, and care about the winner second?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 20, 2011 23:21:32 GMT -5
What else can he do at wrestlemania other than cut a few promos either identical or not as great as the one he cut on Monday? He's the guest host. If he does what I think he'll do, he'll come out a few times in between matches to make fun of some people and that'll be that. That's why when HBK came out after they announced him going to the Hall of Fame he didn't SAY ANYTHING because then he would just be repeating himself at the Hall of Fame. The Rock is bound to get involved in the WWE title match in some way or another. 100%. Great...so we can get some nauseating moment of Rock raising John Cena's hand after he wins the WWE title at Wrestlemania AGAIN.
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Post by noir on Feb 20, 2011 23:22:42 GMT -5
Overall, I am disappointed with the PPV. The results were very meh, very predictable. They totally make sense but alas, still way too predictable.
- SD chamber was very boring for me. As a huuuggggeeee Edgehead, and a fan of Mysterio, it was disappointing that the match did so little for me that I decided to use it as my 'food break'. I was hungry and needed to pee, I'll admit, but good wrestling overpowers hunger and the human bladder, no? So yeah, it did nothing for me. Of course, as soon as I'd left, ADR makes a surprise attack and Christian returns (I think I have that right?) so I'd have enjoyed it infinitely more if I'd have actually seen that. Nevertheless, disappointed the Big Show took Ziggler's place. Disappointed in Barret looking weak as hell. Generally just a bit of a bore.
- Miz/ King was actually a great match. I love Miz, I love Miz as champion but christ, if he doesn't look weak. Putting a newly turned main eventer in a program with Lawler is such a bad way to get someone over. Luckily, the Miz is exciting enough to make this work, and considering he's a 'sports entertainer' rather than a 'wrestler', the bout was very watchable. He's improved so much in the ring. Major kudos to Lawler too, whilst he totally shouldn't have been there, DAMN can he go. Puts the bores like Orton and HHH to shame.
- RAW chamber was alright, John Morrison impressed me as expected. Punk was fantastic character-wise and in ring. Orton was 2nd out, so YAY. But it was obvious from the start that if Rock/ Cena weren't wrestling at Mania, then Cena would win the chamber. Was this bad? Of course not, I love Cena, I love Miz, and it's great that Miz is being put in a program with the company's top face. However, it was just so dully executed. Punk hits a GTS, Cena FU's him. ZzZz..
Overall 3/10. Again, not bad from a booking standpoint, but otherwise, nothing too exciting here, I feel like I've just wasted 3 hours. But, what can you do? The two main events for Mania at this point look great to me (ADR/Edge, Miz/Cena). However, since Royal Rumble 2011 was one of my favourite PPV's in recent memory, and RAW/SD have been top notch as of late, I feel totally let down by EC.
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Post by cjskittles4 on Feb 20, 2011 23:24:47 GMT -5
The Rock is bound to get involved in the WWE title match in some way or another. 100%. Great...so we can get some nauseating moment of Rock raising John Cena's hand after he wins the WWE title at Wrestlemania AGAIN. That's all we're gonna see You'd think WWE would let Rock (who will probably take a leave of absense after Mania) layeth the smacketh down on John Cena after he wins the title? How would that make Cena look... or the group of current stars It'd be a mistake. He'll beat up on Miz and A-Ri and Cena will win the title with Rock and Cena shaking hands to close the show It's ING disgusting lol
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Feb 20, 2011 23:25:26 GMT -5
As much as I would have preferred Miz/Morrison, it's WWE, and WWE almost always play it safe. Considering we probably came close to getting Orton/Cena this year, I'm quite thankful for Miz being involved (and Del Rio, of course). Besides, it only makes sense to do this: they probably see Miz as the next "mainstream" guy, and while he's booked like a joke, all the new champions these days are, for some odd reason. However, it's still an opportunity to give the next marketable company guy, The Miz, his main event match against the current top guy, Cena.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 20, 2011 23:30:32 GMT -5
I just want to say, as badly as WWE is "booking" Miz as champion, he is winning. Of the newer guys WWE has given the title to, Miz has had a longer reign than them. He has been champ for three months and will most definitely have it for four months up to WreslteMania and you never know, he might win then too. Not bad for a first title reign IMO.
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Post by gordon on Feb 20, 2011 23:32:22 GMT -5
Great...so we can get some nauseating moment of Rock raising John Cena's hand after he wins the WWE title at Wrestlemania AGAIN. That's all we're gonna see You'd think WWE would let Rock (who will probably take a leave of absense after Mania) layeth the smacketh down on John Cena after he wins the title? How would that make Cena look... or the group of current stars It'd be a mistake. He'll beat up on Miz and A-Ri and Cena will win the title with Rock and Cena shaking hands to close the show It's ING disgusting lol That sounds great to me. I see no problem with that whatsoever.
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Post by cattlemutilation on Feb 20, 2011 23:33:38 GMT -5
That's all we're gonna see You'd think WWE would let Rock (who will probably take a leave of absense after Mania) layeth the smacketh down on John Cena after he wins the title? How would that make Cena look... or the group of current stars It'd be a mistake. He'll beat up on Miz and A-Ri and Cena will win the title with Rock and Cena shaking hands to close the show It's ING disgusting lol That sounds great to me. I see no problem with that whatsoever.
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Post by Gazza on Feb 20, 2011 23:35:07 GMT -5
That's all we're gonna see You'd think WWE would let Rock (who will probably take a leave of absense after Mania) layeth the smacketh down on John Cena after he wins the title? How would that make Cena look... or the group of current stars It'd be a mistake. He'll beat up on Miz and A-Ri and Cena will win the title with Rock and Cena shaking hands to close the show It's ING disgusting lol That sounds great to me. I see no problem with that whatsoever. Me neither, They aren't going to have The Rock do anything to Cena at WM.. pretty obvious to me.
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Post by J12 on Feb 20, 2011 23:35:37 GMT -5
Given everything that happened tonight, here is what I could potentially see the Wrestlemania card looking like... WWE Championship Match (With The Rock involved in some capacity) The Miz (c) vs. John Cena World Heavyweight Championship Match Edge (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Christian (vs. Dolph Ziggler) (Ziggler being potential) The Undertaker vs. (I leave this open ended because anything is purely speculation until tomorrow, but my guess is Triple H) Randy Orton vs. CM Punk The Big Show vs. Wade Barrett Money in the Bank Ladder Match John Morrison vs. Sheamus vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Kane vs. R-Truth vs. (Ezekiel Jackson, maybe?) Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes (Trish Stratus vs. LayCool) This, again, pending on upcoming events. Maybe a tag match? Handicap? I somehow expect all the divas to be at ringside, though. Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler
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Post by gordon on Feb 20, 2011 23:35:54 GMT -5
That sounds great to me. I see no problem with that whatsoever. What's wrong with that? If The Rock was coming back full time, I'd have no problem with him laying the smackdown on Cena's candy ass, but he's not so why not have him put over the guy who's basically taken his spot? Something that guys like Hogan and Austin never did.
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Post by cattlemutilation on Feb 20, 2011 23:39:05 GMT -5
I just honestly don't expect the Rock to be around full time. If he's not wrestling, and he's not the GM (which I don't think he is), what would he do?
If he IS here to stay and has something viable to do, that's another story. I'm just going off how I feel about everything right now.
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Post by cjskittles4 on Feb 20, 2011 23:40:12 GMT -5
What's wrong with that? If The Rock was coming back full time, I'd have no problem with him laying the smackdown on Cena's candy ass, but he's not so why not have him put over the guy who's basically taken his spot? Something that guys like Hogan and Austin never did. They kinda have Hogan and Austin both endorsed Cena
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Post by gordon on Feb 20, 2011 23:42:00 GMT -5
I didn't mean Cena specifically, but yeah they've had minor encounters with him but I'm talking about a big passing of the torch moment. Hogan and Cena celebrating together or Austin handing a beer to Cena at the HOF don't really mean a damn thing.
The Rock shaking John Cena's hand after a big title win at WrestleMania? Now that's something.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 23:42:47 GMT -5
Definitely a decent PPV, the outcomes were very predictable. However, it was a good build up to Wrestlemania. I'm still angry Cena won, but it was the right move. Punk will feud with Orton, and Morrison just isn't ready to be a contender. He has the skills, just not the promo skills. Also, another thing that had me dissapointed was the Big Show filling the final spot. Could've picked someone better, imo.
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Post by Kody on Feb 20, 2011 23:43:49 GMT -5
Del Rio vs. Kofi was great. Really good opener. Big Show being the 'surprise entrant' was such a waste/let-down. The match itself was pretty good. Tag title match was fine, and had the right out-come. It was cool seeing Trish back. Nice to see them have a legit Diva trainer for tough-enough. But, that promo was brutal and the botched move during her run-in had be facepalming. I think it would've been better to save her appearance on the show for that run-in. Cue her music for a surprise, then announce her as TE trainer. The Miz vs. Jerry Lawler was (I can't believe I'm saying this) .....fantastic. I think even the MOTN.
Then the Raw Elimination Chamber. Really fun match. R-truth was pointless, but the stuff with Punk was great. Good to see Orton not running craplike usual. Morrison stole the show, obviously. Some really cool stuff there. They need to chill with the glass spots though. Way too many all night. Plus...they look so weak. Change the 'glass' you use, or stop doing that spot. Also, I lol'd when Punk said "OW!" really loud, but then went "oh shit" when I saw his thigh. That crapmusta hurt. John Cena winning was obviously disappointing. Was hoping for Morrison to win to get that big Morrison/Miz match, and get John Cena vs. Rock at the same time. Oh well. inb4MizvsCenawithspecialguestrefRock
Overall, fun show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 23:44:25 GMT -5
Miz Cena, Rock as special guest ref
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Post by J12 on Feb 20, 2011 23:44:49 GMT -5
As much as I'd love to have Wrestlemania go off the air with Cena taking a good ole' People's Elbow, from a business standpoint it would be a horrible move with The Rock on the way out the door.
However, let me throw this into the mix. If WWE could somehow secure The Rock for Wrestlemania next year, to face Cena, how would you feel about Cena giving The Rock an Attitude Adjustment?
The following night, Cena addresses it, his character doesn't change and we don't hear much about it again until next year, when The Rock comes back looking for revenge.
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