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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 26, 2011 0:07:50 GMT -5
Article on the picture everyone was asking/confused about.
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Post by AONI on Aug 26, 2011 0:10:04 GMT -5
Really kid? All black athletes think white athletes get off easier. Athletes, actors, entertainers, etc ALL get off easier then the general public. Let's not kid ourselves you are sticking with the race card because it's provocative THAT'S IT. Show me facts where black athletes are treated harsher then white ones. FACTS, not your opinion. Then we'll see. lol, white PEOPLE (regardless of their profession) are treated better than black PEOPLE.
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Post by MC2 on Aug 26, 2011 0:58:53 GMT -5
I think of the Panthers as the Mets of the NFL. They have a lot of decent players with potential, but for some reason they ing suck.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 26, 2011 1:10:11 GMT -5
Really kid? All black athletes think white athletes get off easier. Athletes, actors, entertainers, etc ALL get off easier then the general public. Let's not kid ourselves you are sticking with the race card because it's provocative THAT'S IT. Show me facts where black athletes are treated harsher then white ones. FACTS, not your opinion. Then we'll see. lol, white PEOPLE (regardless of their profession) are treated better than black PEOPLE. Yep, you got us. White man just keeping the black people down. Jesus guys, why try and bring race into stuff? If you wanna be honest it happens to all races all the time. hispanic, white, black, asian, etc, etc. Different circumstances, different times, etc, etc. Get off it, this is the NFL thread, lets stick to NFL talk. MC2 - Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 26, 2011 1:18:46 GMT -5
Just a few years ago they were 12-4 and ran over everybody, now they can't even put up 10 on sub .500 teams, I think it's the defense, then QB play that's in fault though. They need another Peppers/Better D-Line and some CB help and HOPE that Cam can atleast QB manage them and use his legs when needed.
Good start by adding 2 great TE's, Rivera's gameplan should be = RUN, run some more, RUN, run some more, RUN. with that o-line and D-Hall.
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Post by machoking on Aug 26, 2011 1:22:12 GMT -5
He got cut from the Niners and Seahawks....If you cant make it on either of those teams, how good are ya? lol They are moving him inside to DT. And right now we need all the fat asses we can find to fill the middle of the line cause that and our secondary is just scary in terms of lack of people/talent. To fill a space he might be alright. Dont expect production. If there is anyone in the past 10 years that Niners fan hate as much as or more then Alex Smith...its Balmer
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Post by AONI on Aug 26, 2011 1:24:57 GMT -5
lol, white PEOPLE (regardless of their profession) are treated better than black PEOPLE. Yep, you got us. White man just keeping the black people down. Jesus guys, why try and bring race into stuff? If you wanna be honest it happens to all races all the time. hispanic, white, black, asian, etc, etc. Different circumstances, different times, etc, etc. Get off it, this is the NFL thread, lets stick to NFL talk. MC2 - Yeah, I don't know what's going on. you asked for proof, examples, etc. dont start a conversation and try and back out once it starts goin a way you dont want it to. and yes, EVERYONE regardless of race will be mistreated in their life by others. but the darker your skin the more likely itll happen to you. and that is something that effects sports just as it would any other social activity.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 26, 2011 1:27:08 GMT -5
Yep, you got us. White man just keeping the black people down. Jesus guys, why try and bring race into stuff? If you wanna be honest it happens to all races all the time. hispanic, white, black, asian, etc, etc. Different circumstances, different times, etc, etc. Get off it, this is the NFL thread, lets stick to NFL talk. MC2 - Yeah, I don't know what's going on. you asked for proof, examples, etc. dont start a conversation and try and back out once it starts goin a way you dont want it to. and yes, EVERYONE regardless of race will be mistreated in their life by others. but the darker your skin the more likely itll happen to you. and that is something that effects sports just as it would any other social activity. I'm not trying to back out of it. You provided nothing in way of proof that black athletes are treated harsher then white athletes. You just stated your opinion and that will make me bow out because I don't want to cause this thread to get locked.
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Post by AONI on Aug 26, 2011 2:08:04 GMT -5
you asked for proof, examples, etc. dont start a conversation and try and back out once it starts goin a way you dont want it to. and yes, EVERYONE regardless of race will be mistreated in their life by others. but the darker your skin the more likely itll happen to you. and that is something that effects sports just as it would any other social activity. I'm not trying to back out of it. You provided nothing in way of proof that black athletes are treated harsher then white athletes. You just stated your opinion and that will make me bow out because I don't want to cause this thread to get locked. their athleticism has nothing to do with it. as people, blacks (whether athlete or doctor or teacher) will be treated worse than whites because of prejudices held by whites, hispanics, asians, and even other blacks. articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-17/bay-area/29668700_1_sagging-pants-fashion-statement-arrestthats a perfect example of what i mean. this guy is a black man who HAPPENED to be an athlete. he was mistreated because he was black, not because he was an athlete. and thats why its perfectly reasonable to say black athletes will face harsher criticisms/ circumstances than white athletes, because prejudice and racism transcend profession
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 26, 2011 2:19:12 GMT -5
I'm not trying to back out of it. You provided nothing in way of proof that black athletes are treated harsher then white athletes. You just stated your opinion and that will make me bow out because I don't want to cause this thread to get locked. their athleticism has nothing to do with it. as people, blacks (whether athlete or doctor or teacher) will be treated worse than whites because of prejudices held by whites, hispanics, asians, and even other blacks. articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-17/bay-area/29668700_1_sagging-pants-fashion-statement-arrestthats a perfect example of what i mean. this guy is a black man who HAPPENED to be an athlete. he was mistreated because he was black, not because he was an athlete. and thats why its perfectly reasonable to say black athletes will face harsher criticisms/ circumstances than white athletes, because prejudice and racism transcend profession You're looking at it one sided. All races are somewhat racist towards other races. That's the end of my discussing it, because it gets nowhere.
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Post by AONI on Aug 26, 2011 10:01:15 GMT -5
their athleticism has nothing to do with it. as people, blacks (whether athlete or doctor or teacher) will be treated worse than whites because of prejudices held by whites, hispanics, asians, and even other blacks. articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-17/bay-area/29668700_1_sagging-pants-fashion-statement-arrestthats a perfect example of what i mean. this guy is a black man who HAPPENED to be an athlete. he was mistreated because he was black, not because he was an athlete. and thats why its perfectly reasonable to say black athletes will face harsher criticisms/ circumstances than white athletes, because prejudice and racism transcend profession You're looking at it one sided. All races are somewhat racist towards other races. That's the end of my discussing it, because it gets nowhere. and youre not reading what i wrote.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 26, 2011 20:13:04 GMT -5
Vick killed dogs...FACT. Ben raped a girl? Suspected of, no charges filed. End of story. In the court of public opinion, this might be different. I several people believe Ben is guilty. And thats fine....thats your opinion. However, its not debatable whether Vick is. Sorry, but 100% certain Vick is guilty of dog killing is worse than possibly raping a whore in a bathroom stall who knowingly, underage with a fake id, got blitzed in a bar, wearing a shirt that said I came to get ed or something of the sort. Whores get ed in bathroom stalls....its what they are there for. Ben vs. Vick has nothing to do with race. Ben could be black and Vick would be white and I would feel the EXACT same way. Fair enough, I expected way worse of a response from you; and I respect your opinion, although I believe it's a double standard. I can be very passionate with my arguments. I know that. I think it comes across worse online than it does if I actually said it to you. Can you explain where you see the double standard though? Cuz I dont. You know something that irks me about every Vick conversation? Everyone always says, "he killed dogs", and "he went to jail for killing dogs." The MAIN reason Vick went to jail, is because he was running an illegal interstate gambling ring. To be honest, the government really didn't give a crap about the dogs. And had he only been killing dogs, the feds wouldn't have been involved, and he likely would have done only a little jail time. All true what you said. But I find his killing of the dogs to be a far worse crime than running an interstate gambling ring. Interstate gambling rings, especially for poker houses, go on ALL THE TIME. Like A Rod or even Pete Rose to some extent, if Vick was just gambling illegally, he would not be villified. Hell, Pete Rose is now presented as a victim. Yep, you got us. White man just keeping the black people down. Jesus guys, why try and bring race into stuff? If you wanna be honest it happens to all races all the time. hispanic, white, black, asian, etc, etc. Different circumstances, different times, etc, etc. Get off it, this is the NFL thread, lets stick to NFL talk. MC2 - Yeah, I don't know what's going on. you asked for proof, examples, etc. dont start a conversation and try and back out once it starts goin a way you dont want it to. and yes, EVERYONE regardless of race will be mistreated in their life by others. but the darker your skin the more likely itll happen to you. and that is something that effects sports just as it would any other social activity. Tell that to lone white guy at a Chris Rock comedy show. Like a turd in the punch bowl.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 27, 2011 0:05:05 GMT -5
All true what you said. But I find his killing of the dogs to be a far worse crime than running an interstate gambling ring. Interstate gambling rings, especially for poker houses, go on ALL THE TIME. Like A Rod or even Pete Rose to some extent, if Vick was just gambling illegally, he would not be villified. Hell, Pete Rose is now presented as a victim. Well yeah... But dumb people think he went to jail for killing dogs. He didn't.
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Post by roddypiper on Aug 27, 2011 9:52:13 GMT -5
All true what you said. But I find his killing of the dogs to be a far worse crime than running an interstate gambling ring. Interstate gambling rings, especially for poker houses, go on ALL THE TIME. Like A Rod or even Pete Rose to some extent, if Vick was just gambling illegally, he would not be villified. Hell, Pete Rose is now presented as a victim. Well yeah... But dumb people think he went to jail for killing dogs. He didn't. Yet if someone rapes a drunk girl with a bad rep she is getting what she deserves.
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Post by AONI on Aug 27, 2011 10:21:40 GMT -5
Tell that to lone white guy at a Chris Rock comedy show. Like a turd in the punch bowl. is that really discriminatory? to be made fun of by a comedian?
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Aug 27, 2011 11:26:10 GMT -5
Well yeah... But dumb people think he went to jail for killing dogs. He didn't. Yet if someone rapes a drunk girl with a bad rep she is getting what she deserves. Jesus H Christ, please tell me this a joke
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Post by roddypiper on Aug 27, 2011 11:51:30 GMT -5
Yet if someone rapes a drunk girl with a bad rep she is getting what she deserves. Jesus H Christ, please tell me this a joke I was mocking Show Stopper.
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Post by T R W on Aug 27, 2011 12:06:43 GMT -5
Setting up for my 12 team money league. Lots of beer and trash talk coming up. I am picking #7, so we'll see how it goes.
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Post by roddypiper on Aug 27, 2011 12:10:42 GMT -5
Setting up for my 12 team money league. Lots of beer and trash talk coming up. I am picking #7, so we'll see how it goes. How well do you do in money leagues TRW?
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Post by MC2 on Aug 27, 2011 15:12:23 GMT -5
What do you guys think about going for Freeman as my starting fantasy QB?
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