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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 21, 2011 0:03:24 GMT -5
Maybe we will be ok if people who can't afford children STOP HAVING THEM BY THE TRUCK-LOAD.
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Post by slappy on Feb 21, 2011 0:06:29 GMT -5
LMAO. You have no valid arguments. Your post is all "They have so many kids. That s everything up. They don't have technology like we do. We are better than them because, well, America rules." Paraphrasing of course. Really? I dont know how old you are, but I will still be here in 2050. Living for tomorrow means planning today. We have to plan for them, because they wont. They get by on the skin of their teeth. So do some Americans, and that in-turn doesnt necessarily mean all Americans should reproduce. But it happens - its life. But its obviously happeneing way to much in countries that it shouldnt happen in. If poor countries are doing nothing more than mulitplying quicker than a calculator, and are at risk of just occupying space and eating all the food in the world, what good are they doing for the rest of us? You act like i'm trying to exterminate them. I'm just trying to figure out a way to make living better for everyone. So what if some males there can't reproduce? That way, they can screw all they want and not worry about consequences, since its sooo important to them. In 2050 I have no Idea what America will look like. But if we are evoloving ourselves, and everything around us as rapidly as we are now, America has a bright future. That goes for every country that follows suit. But I can tell you this, in 40 years I do have an idea about what Africa and Asia will look like, and if its going the rate they say it will, it wont be much different then now - sh*tty and overpopulated. I still plan on being here in 2050. What gives you the right though or anybody the right to tell those people they can't have kids? You may not want to exterminate them but it seems you wouldn't be sad if they all just died tomorrow. If you think they are taking up space then what should go in that space instead? They aren't going to eat all the food in the world. We are going to eat food too. Not like all the food is going to go to them and the rest of us will starve. What good am I doing for society or you for that matter? Do any of us peons really do anything that matters to the course of human history? So why should those who actually do stuff worry about us lowly people? As long as our money continues to go to shit, we don't have much of a future at all. Those with power don't want Africa to grow and prosper. If it did, that could take away some power and money from those people.
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Post by slappy on Feb 21, 2011 0:08:38 GMT -5
I have a point for you. One big one is judging others who you dont clearly understand customs and cultures and assume because they are different then they must be wrong and must learn to stop procreating as every living thing does. I hope your maidenhood is still intact or your hypocrisy will bind you instantly. Or better yet the idea of anyone thing that technology is an answer to any question is funny just in the general sense. Each piece we design is either wasted or turned into a weapon. But otherwise, your point seems solid ;D Nowhere do I say that because they are different they are wrong. I say that because they are poor, they are wrong. If I was out living in the street, I would be worried about where my next meal came from, or what I will sleep on. NOT how quickly I can impregnate another hobo and bring in another mouth in the world that I can barely feed. See that's the problem: You guys just think I'm being selfish. I actually care enough to want to change things for them, not let them continue down the road their on, as you and Slappy seem to be so comfortable with. One of the things I've always wanted to do in life, should I become any kind of success, is help the poor. I never imagined helping anyone in other countries, but helping a bum on a local street when I pass by will make me happy. Yeah, I just want them to continue spreading disease and dying off. Would you say the same about Americans? Those who are poor shouldn't have children?
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Feb 21, 2011 0:37:24 GMT -5
Meh, the Chinese will have invaded America by then anyway. Ni Hao, glorious overlords!
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Feb 21, 2011 0:38:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I just want them to continue spreading disease and dying off. Would you say the same about Americans? Those who are poor shouldn't have children? I think that anyone who has a hard enough time supporting themselves shouldnt consider bringing a kid into the world. It's different in America though, we have orphanages where underprivilaged kids can go and have a chance at life. What do they have in Africa? Angelina Jolie. I still plan on being here in 2050. What gives you the right though or anybody the right to tell those people they can't have kids?Freedom of speech. They dont have to do as I say, but my opinion will still stand. You may not want to exterminate them but it seems you wouldn't be sad if they all just died tomorrow.Well, I would definitely be taken aback. My standpoint of death is a whole nother topic, but I would definitely be upset, and concerned if they all suddenly died. I would never want them to pay a price like death just to make living better for myself. Never. If you think they are taking up space then what should go in that space instead?Economy. Buildings, schools, homes, government. Establish all of that, and then lift any kind of ban on having children. They aren't going to eat all the food in the world. We are going to eat food too. Not like all the food is going to go to them and the rest of us will starve.But certain resources will become scarce. I would hate to have to pay $10 for a loaf of bread in my lifetime just because they desperately need bread to feed millions of people just sitting there. With growing population and economy, room to grow ingrediants will become smaller. What good am I doing for society or you for that matter? Do any of us peons really do anything that matters to the course of human history? So why should those who actually do stuff worry about us lowly people? The American Dream is something I look to achieve. Happiness in my life, for my family and friends, and helping others along the way. Thats it. If I do that, at the end of my time, I can be possibly responsible for shaping other successful lives. A simple life like the ideal one I just painted a picture of could lead to people who do make that bigger impact for America and the world. As long as our money continues to go to poop, we don't have much of a future at all.
Those with power don't want Africa to grow and prosper. If it did, that could take away some power and money from those people.That may be true, and if it is, it sucks ass. it's only going to make stuff worse for all of us in the end. All im doing is offering my standpoint/solution. Thanks for an actual reply.
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Post by slappy on Feb 21, 2011 1:13:49 GMT -5
Just because kids have a chance of being adopted doesn't mean they will be. Many stay in the system until they just simply age out and then they are on their own.
But you would like your way implemented and for guys to be castrated and poor people to be forced not to have kids. That goes way behind freedom of speech but also that's a different country so our freedom of speech doesn't apply there.
But under the scenario people would have to die in order for the rest of us to be ok.
I know this is a ridiculous example just hear me out.
There are 300 pieces of food that when eaten will keep you full for 6 months. There are 400 people. The first 300 would have to give a little piece to feed the extra 100. If the 100 died then you wouldn't have to share and you'd be good for six months. Now if 150 more died then you'd get 2 pieces of food and that would keep you full for a year.
Now let's say that there are 200 men and 200 women who are presumably straight or at least forced to be paired off man and woman.
They each have 1 kid. So that is 200 more mouths to feed. Goes up to 600 people and still only 300 pieces of food. Now you have to split that in half and the whole population will only be good for 3 months.
So people would have to die to help the rest of us.
But it's absurd. We will be fine.
How can we realistically predict something 39 years in the future? We can't predict what's going to happen tomorrow. 39 years ago they probably thought we'd have flying cars by now. Things don't work out like people plan them to.
Where would they get the money to build all that stuff though? The World Bank certainly isn't going to hand out money. The Rothschilds, Bill Gates, etc aren't going to hand out money to build those things.
Some countries over there already pay BILLIONS for stuff we pay a few dollars for. Their money is crap.
You most likely will have to pay $10 for a loaf of bread and that would be even if the population stayed the exact same for the next 39 years. Why? Because our money is crap too. We have barely any buying power. Everything costs more because our dollar is worthless.
You could have kids that could do something. A person in Cameroon could have a kid that grows up to find a cure for cancer or brings peace to the world. We have no idea what could happen.
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Post by "Original Broski" jonjon535353 on Feb 21, 2011 1:54:35 GMT -5
It's gonna take another pandemic, much like the virus of the Black Plague. Something like that will have to whipe out alot of the population for us to continue like we have. Sure the first black plague was awful, but it was a blessing in disguise. Scientists say that pandemic set Earth back by 50-100 years. If it wasn't for that, we may very well already be in this crisis of food shortage.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 21, 2011 10:18:29 GMT -5
We'll be fine. The only thing I worry about is some people will believe it necessary to exterminate whole countries to "help" the rest of us. Ever seen the movie Rampage?
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Post by slappy on Feb 21, 2011 11:22:31 GMT -5
We'll be fine. The only thing I worry about is some people will believe it necessary to exterminate whole countries to "help" the rest of us. Ever seen the movie Rampage? No, I have not.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 21, 2011 12:15:50 GMT -5
We'll be fine. The only thing I worry about is some people will believe it necessary to exterminate whole countries to "help" the rest of us. Ever seen the movie Rampage? Does it involve a large lizard, large gorilla and large wolf destroying buildings?
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Post by canusmelltheheat on Feb 21, 2011 15:19:19 GMT -5
This honestly really scares me. In the past we always had huge events to kill of much of the population. IE the Haulocaust, WWI and WWII Those kept the population from growing too much. Im not saying i support these kinds of things but something needs to happen to keep the population at a steady rate. What i am mostly scared of is the UN killing of lots of people that they think \"arent needed\" like Africas population and other 3rd world countries.
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Post by K5 on Feb 21, 2011 17:48:45 GMT -5
we'll have ran out of fuel by then anyways.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 22, 2011 3:59:07 GMT -5
Lol, I find it funny right after they announce this we get two Earthquakes. " FIJI ISLANDS & NEW ZEALAND. " Even though we get Earthquakes every single day of our life, these two were 6.0+
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Post by Mole on Feb 22, 2011 7:35:21 GMT -5
Lol, I find it funny right after they announce this we get two Earthquakes. " FIJI ISLANDS & NEW ZEALAND. " Even though we get Earthquakes every single day of our life, these two were 6.0+ Why is it funny?
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Post by Keyboard Cat on Feb 22, 2011 8:44:42 GMT -5
Well looks like it's time to start funding my shelter with water and pork and beans.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 22, 2011 11:25:21 GMT -5
Lol, I find it funny right after they announce this we get two Earthquakes. " FIJI ISLANDS & NEW ZEALAND. " Even though we get Earthquakes every single day of our life, these two were 6.0+ Why is it funny? Sounds like a coincidence to me. Lol j/k. It's just something the crazies will use to say "they're" trying to kill the population.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Feb 22, 2011 13:41:39 GMT -5
Maybe we will be ok if people who can't afford children STOP HAVING THEM BY THE TRUCK-LOAD. I agree with lorenzo and dgen. Poor people should not be having children. Its child abuse.
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Post by slappy on Feb 22, 2011 14:22:59 GMT -5
Maybe we will be ok if people who can't afford children STOP HAVING THEM BY THE TRUCK-LOAD. I agree with lorenzo and dgen. Poor people should not be having children. Its child abuse. lol. Please explain how it is child abuse.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Feb 22, 2011 15:15:16 GMT -5
I agree with lorenzo and dgen. Poor people should not be having children. Its child abuse. lol. Please explain how it is child abuse. It is, indeed child abuse, punisihable by law.
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Post by slappy on Feb 22, 2011 15:50:18 GMT -5
lol. Please explain how it is child abuse. It is, indeed child abuse, punisihable by law. How does one determine what is adequate? If parents are vegetarian and they only feed their kid vegetarian things are they going to be punished for not feeding the kid meat? So not hugging and kissing your kid all the time is neglect now? Is yelling at your kid for having bad grades going to be illegal next? Don't want to hurt the kids feelings. They can home school the kids. So if a kid is sick parents have to give the kid cold medicine or they are going to be taken away? I still fail to see how it is neglect. Also those definitions of neglect are pretty pitiful.
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