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Post by Adam on Feb 28, 2011 17:26:09 GMT -5
Why can't you reply with someone you want to see be a candidate/win the Presidency? Cause you didnt ask me, you asked me who my dream candidate would be. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 17:47:09 GMT -5
Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. The bailouts actually started under Bush. They've basically had 3-4 years to have an effect. How much more time do you want to give them before you decide whether they've done any good? This. If you don't remember, Bush actually did a bailout, to the people. The economy began to grow, somewhat. Seeing what I see in my job, afterwards small businesses began to grow with lesser complications. @slappy: heh. I couldn't help but laugh.
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Post by The Mac on Feb 28, 2011 18:54:53 GMT -5
It makes no diffrence, there all going to be the same
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 28, 2011 19:13:42 GMT -5
Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. You are ing delusional if you think the economy is going to turn around in the next two years.
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Post by slappy on Feb 28, 2011 19:36:49 GMT -5
Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. You are ing delusional if you think the economy is going to turn around in the next two years. It took FDR three terms to turn the country around. Give Obama three terms. Just kidding of course.
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Post by extreme on Feb 28, 2011 20:45:43 GMT -5
Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. You are ing delusional if you think the economy is going to turn around in the next two years. I wonder sometimes if it ever will turn around.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Mar 1, 2011 14:40:14 GMT -5
Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. The bailouts actually started under Bush. They've basically had 3-4 years to have an effect. How much more time do you want to give them before you decide whether they've done any good? Who says they haven't? You can't predict with any certainty how much worse the economic crisis would've been without them. I admittedly wasn't very clear in the last post - I should've said for demand to return to previous levels. They probably have already stimulated demand. Why? Bailouts take time to have an effect in stimulating demand. The fatc is the economy will probably get better, unemployment will probably fall, the Republicans will probably put up a divisive Tea Party candidate and Obama will probably win a second term. You are ing delusional if you think the economy is going to turn around in the next two years. Why? Its really not impossible. A quick Google tells me the US economy has been growing since the back end of 2009, and its growth rate is increasing at the moment. It is perfectly reasonable to expect all the things I said would probably occur to happen.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 1, 2011 15:47:47 GMT -5
Why? Its really not impossible. A quick Google tells me the US economy has been growing since the back end of 2009, and its growth rate is increasing at the moment. It is perfectly reasonable to expect all the things I said would probably occur to happen. THE GROWTH IS FAKE!! It's Monopoly money! There's a reason that other countries have stopped using the dollar in trades (see China/Russia's trade which has always been in dollars until recently). There's also a reason that gold and silver are at an all time high value right now -- because people know the growth is fake. Printing money with no collateral is catching up with this country and the dollar WILL collapse unless something is done about the Federal Reserve.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Mar 1, 2011 16:49:28 GMT -5
Why? Its really not impossible. A quick Google tells me the US economy has been growing since the back end of 2009, and its growth rate is increasing at the moment. It is perfectly reasonable to expect all the things I said would probably occur to happen. THE GROWTH IS FAKE!! It's Monopoly money! There's a reason that other countries have stopped using the dollar in trades (see China/Russia's trade which has always been in dollars until recently). There's also a reason that gold and silver are at an all time high value right now -- because people know the growth is fake. Printing money with no collateral is catching up with this country and the dollar WILL collapse unless something is done about the Federal Reserve. Millions and millions of $, £ and whatever are " monopoly money." Its all part of the financial system. Growth can't be "fake." The US economy is growing because people are putting money into it, be that consumers, investors or the government. Also, the large amount of quantative easing is reduced in danger by the fact almost everyone in the world is doing it.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Mar 1, 2011 17:07:05 GMT -5
As long as Mitch Daniels doesn't run, and provided his values don't change, I will be voting for Obama.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 1, 2011 17:15:17 GMT -5
Millions and millions of $, £ and whatever are " monopoly money." Its all part of the financial system. Growth can't be "fake." The US economy is growing because people are putting money into it, be that consumers, investors or the government. Also, the large amount of quantative easing is reduced in danger by the fact almost everyone in the world is doing it. Millions? What an unbelievably gross understatement. It's not millions, it's not even billions. Try TRILLIONS. The government can't put money into anything because the government gets its money from the people, thus it would be putting money into itself. It'd be like if I gave a dollar to myself. The growth not only CAN be fake, it IS fake. See: Federal Reserve printing money to buy bonds, bail out companies, etc. Where do you think this money comes from? It LITERALLY comes from nothing. They just print it. There's no backing to it. Thus, the U.S. is losings its status as the world's reserve currency, which will lead to the complete collapse of the dollar when we no longer can print money with no backing and toss it in the air like Pacman Jones. Under Obama's proposed budget, the U.S. will nearly twice as far in debt as it is right now by 2020. We need economic reform in this country. Starting with the collapse of the Federal Reserve Bank.
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Post by Adam235 on Mar 3, 2011 18:41:33 GMT -5
Yeah I usually vote Democrat so I probably would vote for Obama again..
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Post by HR2X on Mar 3, 2011 19:57:30 GMT -5
To the OP, hell no, I'd never vote Obama for a second term.
And after reading through this thread.. Kliquid for President. Enough said.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 3, 2011 20:16:18 GMT -5
Yeah I usually vote Democrat so I probably would vote for Obama again.. This is the problem with America.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 3, 2011 20:52:36 GMT -5
Denis Leary is my dream candidate. Not mine. You ever get stuck behind that guy in the ultra fast lane? Such an a**hole.
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Post by slappy on Mar 3, 2011 21:24:58 GMT -5
And what he wants to get them on isn't illegal. They can choose not to defend a law in court, they just can't choose to not enforce the law. They plan on enforcing DOMA, just not defending it in court. Also, their choice to not defend it does not mean it will not be defended. That duty now goes to the Speaker of the House.
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Post by doogle on Mar 4, 2011 10:52:06 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the economy was crumbling BEFORE Obama...I lived in Italy and it was a huge joke to everyone even then.... www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates/well look at that....seriously it's ridiculous how people forgot how terrible our economy was becoming in 08-09...then when Obama becomes president it's his fault.
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Post by doogle on Mar 4, 2011 10:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 4, 2011 11:06:39 GMT -5
Blaming the falling economy on George W. Bush or Barack Obama is a common mistake that uneducated people make.
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