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Post by TheNinthCloud on Mar 5, 2011 21:50:38 GMT -5
Well, my history teacher can tell us exactly where he was and what happened when he found out it happened. He's not that old, so it'll be awhile. Was he apart of the investigation or the happenings of it? They aren't going to wait until everyone alive in 1963 is dead. Oh no, he was a school or something...
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Mar 5, 2011 21:50:46 GMT -5
Come on man. It's been 50 years. You really think the feds could keep something like that covered up for 50 years? They're not known for their competence. When I say, "huge conspiracy" I actually don't mean a LOT of people. I think it was a small number of people who were involved in a ridiculously huge conspiracy. I also believe that 9/11 was largely an inside job. My respect for you is falling rapidly.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 5, 2011 21:56:01 GMT -5
When I say, "huge conspiracy" I actually don't mean a LOT of people. I think it was a small number of people who were involved in a ridiculously huge conspiracy. I also believe that 9/11 was largely an inside job. My respect for you is falling rapidly. This is truly a beautiful moment. Actually, I'm one inclined to agree that there was conspiracy. I just don't think it is that easy to take out a president, not now and not in JFK's day. Maybe, in the past, it would seem logical and plausible but that along side of alot of other things that just dont add up. I just have to believe we do not know all the answers in this one.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Mar 5, 2011 22:03:59 GMT -5
I agree that things don't all add up exactly, but that's life. Life never, ever adds up exactly. Some of the stuff that doesn't appear to add up on the service has perfectly legit explanations when you think about it though. Some of it doesn't.
That being said, conspiracies are ridiculously difficult to cover up. I think it was Franklin who said something like "A secret is only a secret if two people know it and one of them is dead." As time goes on, people have second thoughts. They get too drunk one night at the bar. They leave deathbed confessions. There are always those who keep proof of the conspiracy just in case they need it. These people die and their heirs stumble on this proof. To believe that someone could keep a conspiracy as vast as the assassination of a president a secret for 50 years is astonishing to me. Not a single person involved says a word or comes forward with proof of the conspiracy in 50 years?
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Post by "Original Broski" jonjon535353 on Mar 5, 2011 22:05:02 GMT -5
Well, my history teacher can tell us exactly where he was and what happened when he found out it happened. He's not that old, so it'll be awhile. Was he apart of the investigation or the happenings of it? They aren't going to wait until everyone alive in 1963 is dead. If they were gonna do that, there's a definite possibilty they would wait until like 2063, and that's not gonna happen. If they aren't released by then, they've prolly been destroyed, anyways.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 5, 2011 22:06:17 GMT -5
Like I said man, E. Howard Hunt left a deathbed confession that makes a lot of sense.
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Post by MC2 on Mar 5, 2011 22:07:17 GMT -5
The case will be closed forever in less then 2 years so I don't think it matters much, we probably never know.
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Post by hbkrules on Mar 6, 2011 0:17:20 GMT -5
History Channel did a special with bullet forensics, bullet trajectory, and blast patterns that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Oswald was the only one who fired the shots. As far as whether or not anyone else was behind it pulling the string I personally do not think so but who knows. And that special was proven wrong by Jesse Ventura. Dude think about what you just said. You are going to believe jesse ventura over bullet experts, physics phds, geographers, and noted historians. To even further discredit jesse his show was biased. If there was no conspiracy he had no show therefore he was naturally going to always argue for the conspiracy. The same people who killed JFK killed Marilyn and Bobby.
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Post by slappy on Mar 6, 2011 0:37:43 GMT -5
And that special was proven wrong by Jesse Ventura. Dude think about what you just said. You are going to believe jesse ventura over bullet experts, physics phds, geographers, and noted historians. To even further discredit jesse his show was biased. If there was no conspiracy he had no show therefore he was naturally going to always argue for the conspiracy. The same people who killed JFK killed Marilyn and Bobby. It's not like Jesse just said it was wrong. He proved it wrong. He used the same gun and shot it from the same height and he is a great shot. It didn't work. He interviewed the head of the library where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy. The guy said the official position is just as the official story is told. However he said his personally opinion is the official story is wrong. If instead of just dismissing the show because Jesse is crazy or because it's called conspiracy theory, watch it to see what is in it.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Mar 6, 2011 3:02:49 GMT -5
It's not like Jesse just said it was wrong. He proved it wrong. He used the same gun and shot it from the same height and he is a great shot. It didn't work. He interviewed the head of the library where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy. The guy said the official position is just as the official story is told. However he said his personally opinion is the official story is wrong. If instead of just dismissing the show because Jesse is crazy or because it's called conspiracy theory, watch it to see what is in it. Jesse made a valid point. I understand the tv show is made for entertainment reasons,but his methods were sound and grounded in reality,and definitely had me doubting the lee harvey oswald was the shooter.
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Post by James Hetfield on Mar 6, 2011 5:26:54 GMT -5
Watch the Penn & Teller episode on this. It's about as credible as that -o Jesse Ventura.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 17:26:32 GMT -5
I dont doubt a shot came from the book depository or wherever else..I dont really care where the shot came from honestly...the key is who fired the shot...I dont believe it was Oswald. I believe he was a patsy.
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Post by Halloween King on Mar 6, 2011 18:32:35 GMT -5
If anyone thinks it was Oswald acting alone they are so misinformed. It was a vast consipracy which would later claim RFK's life too.
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Post by figurecollector on Mar 7, 2011 7:23:56 GMT -5
If anyone thinks it was Oswald acting alone they are so misinformed. It was a vast consipracy which would later claim RFK's life too. It probably involves Marilyn Monroe's death also. I seem to remember a show where they disproved the theory she overdosed. She was involved allegedly with both Kennedys.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 7, 2011 8:30:56 GMT -5
I think that there was a conspiracy. Considering that the Secret Service men stood down, particularly the image of the confused final guard who stood down. Match that with the proposed re-introduction of the gold standard (something I strongly agreed with, because now there is no actual money, just debt paper), and the fact that his supposed methods did not meld well wit those of his recent predecessors, I can see why it would be that way. I feel that sufficient evidence exists to suggest that Oswald didn't work alone. Whether it had to do with his proposed policies, or maybe Marilyn Monroe, perhaps all of the above, I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt it at this point. Regardless, I feel that there was definitely something rotten in Denmark on that day. There was a conspiracy. Nothing will convince me otherwise.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 7, 2011 8:38:56 GMT -5
I like the movie JFK, and I've read Jim Garrison's book that inspired the movie. I don't think that this one lone DA in New Orleans had all the pieces put together, but I do believe he was certainly on his way.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Mar 7, 2011 17:20:18 GMT -5
I think that there was a conspiracy. Considering that the Secret Service men stood down, particularly the image of the confused final guard who stood down. Match that with the proposed re-introduction of the gold standard (something I strongly agreed with, because now there is no actual money, just debt paper), and the fact that his supposed methods did not meld well wit those of his recent predecessors, I can see why it would be that way. I feel that sufficient evidence exists to suggest that Oswald didn't work alone. Whether it had to do with his proposed policies, or maybe Marilyn Monroe, perhaps all of the above, I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt it at this point. Regardless, I feel that there was definitely something rotten in Denmark on that day. There was a conspiracy. Nothing will convince me otherwise. I just want to throw out there that if we went back to the gold standard it would massively, massively impact our economy in hugely negative ways and wouldn't offer much of anything positive. You think the economy is bad now. Just wait and see it on the gold standard.
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Post by The UndyTaker on Mar 7, 2011 17:37:12 GMT -5
Rikishi.
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Post by "Original Broski" jonjon535353 on Mar 12, 2011 13:12:49 GMT -5
He did it.. For the Rock..
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Mar 13, 2011 0:55:24 GMT -5
Why are we even concerned with this particular conspiracy, when we still haven't conclusively proven who fired the Shot Heard 'Round the World?
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