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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:38:08 GMT -5
Umm let's see.......if Mattel released a figure that the WWE said no to.....ummmmm.......yea I think they would lose the license. Dude...you have no idea what you're talking about. A toy company cannot release a figure if the WWE says no to it. That would breach the contract. WWE has the final say in those things. If Mattel said screw it and released a figure anyway, then there would be consequences from the WWE. If all of you wanna keep on believing that this figure may see the light of day, so be it. If it does, great, I'll probably get it. If it doesn't, then I won't be hurt. This all I'm going to say about it, I am not going back in forth with anyone anymore because the last thing I need is to be accused of starting an argument or getting someone banned because everyone thinks we're arguing.
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Mar 21, 2011 19:38:29 GMT -5
If you believe that is how it actually works you've lost your mind. Mattel wouldn't enter into a business arrangement with a major company (DC Comics, WWE, etc) without some sort of promise. They have the license for "X" amount of years, and are guaranteed that license for that time. They wouldn't put the funds into the sculpts/tools/figures to just one day have WWE say "Hey guess what, you wanted to release Figure X and we didn't so see ya" because that isn't smart business. Also Mattel is the largest toy company in the world... they wouldn't be too terribly hurt if WWE pulled the license, seeing most their money comes from Barbie/Hot Wheels/Playskool Umm let's see.......if Mattel released a figure that the WWE said no to.....ummmmm.......yea I think they would lose the license. We're talking RSC EXCLUSIVE. WWE wants the Nexus Punk, fine. But they could at least make it ane exclusive. WWE would be fine with that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:40:53 GMT -5
Umm let's see.......if Mattel released a figure that the WWE said no to.....ummmmm.......yea I think they would lose the license. We're talking RSC EXCLUSIVE. WWE wants the Nexus Punk, fine. But they could at least make it ane exclusive. WWE would be fine with that. Sorry, forgot that you worked for the WWE.
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Post by tmarcumusn on Mar 21, 2011 19:43:36 GMT -5
guster/CM Punk Mark- thanks for the support.
RKOWned:
I never said they would release the figure without permission. Chances are they CAN release the figure but play ball with WWE. We're trying to convince them to get WWE to release the figure, not just release it on their whim alone.
You have no damn idea what you're talking about- PERIOD. That much is very clear. There are contracts in place, and WWE wouldn't/couldn't cancel their license/legally binding contract with Mattel for the simple fact of Mattel saying "Hey we got a lot of fan interest in that SES CM Punk figure, can we do a limited run/full release/exclusive release to satisfy the demand?"
You're arguing for the sake of arguing and honestly haven't a leg to stand on. You say you'd make a thread crying out for a cancelled figure but downgrade the ones who are doing it. You have back handed "yeah I'd buy it but you're wasting your time" comments and make outstanding remarks about WWE having the almighty power in the relationship they have with Mattel when likely it's either equal or even tipped in the favor of Mattel.
Think before you post.
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Mar 21, 2011 19:44:32 GMT -5
We're talking RSC EXCLUSIVE. WWE wants the Nexus Punk, fine. But they could at least make it ane exclusive. WWE would be fine with that. Sorry, forgot that you worked for the WWE. Ooohh. You're smart. Even if I did, I'd say 'we'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:45:47 GMT -5
guster/CM Punk Mark- thanks for the support. RKOWned: I never said they would release the figure without permission. Chances are they CAN release the figure but play ball with WWE. We're trying to convince them to get WWE to release the figure, not just release it on their whim alone. You have no damn idea what you're talking about- PERIOD. That much is very clear. There are contracts in place, and WWE wouldn't/couldn't cancel their license/legally binding contract with Mattel for the simple fact of Mattel saying "Hey we got a lot of fan interest in that SES CM Punk figure, can we do a limited run/full release/exclusive release to satisfy the demand?" You're arguing for the sake of arguing and honestly haven't a leg to stand on. You say you'd make a thread crying out for a cancelled figure but downgrade the ones who are doing it. You have back handed "yeah I'd buy it but you're wasting your time" comments and make outstanding remarks about WWE having the almighty power in the relationship they have with Mattel when likely it's either equal or even tipped in the favor of Mattel. Think before you post. You must have trouble reading. I would make a thread WITHOUT A FIGURE HAVING A CAUSE FOR BEING CANCELED!!!! WWE said no, that's a reason. Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Mattel can't release something unless the WWE consents to it, plain and simple.
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Post by tmarcumusn on Mar 21, 2011 19:49:13 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is you really don't know what you're talking about. Period.
I can read just fine. I just think you're on a soap box and you see yourself as correct when you're not. You are on YOUR TERMS correct, perhaps, but in reality you're really not correct. No one is saying "release it regardless of what the Fed says" it is an appeal to Mattel to present it to WWE again.
No one is pulling any license or contracts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:51:33 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is you really don't know what you're talking about. Period. I can read just fine. I just think you're on a soap box and you see yourself as correct when you're not. You are on YOUR TERMS correct, perhaps, but in reality you're really not correct. No one is saying "release it regardless of what the Fed says" it is an appeal to Mattel to present it to WWE again. No one is pulling any license or contracts. And you on YOUR TERMS say I'm incorrect. This thread has gotten way out of hand. Like I said before, I am done commenting in here before it results in bad consequences to anyone. If it gets released, fine. If not, oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:52:39 GMT -5
Would you all shut the hell up? What's more annoying than "C'mon guys, let's get this to 20 pages!"... is a childish argument over how the WWE feels about the license.
I hope this gets locked at page 19. Not even sure why it was unlocked, in the first place.
- Triple S
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 19:54:02 GMT -5
Would you all shut the hell up? What's more annoying than "C'mon guys, let's get this to 20 pages!"... is a childish argument over how the WWE feels about the license. I hope this gets locked at page 19. Not even sure why it was unlocked, in the first place.- Triple S Agreed And That's why I am stopping the argument, whether people think I am wrong or not.
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Post by tmarcumusn on Mar 21, 2011 19:54:42 GMT -5
Saynora my friend. This thread is about to get a lot more pleasant.
Allow me to thank you, however, for assisting this thread to getting to the 20 page mark.
I'd buy at minimum two of these CM Punks figures.
I prefer this to be an exclusive, myself. You would know the exact place to obtain such a figure rather than search for it at brick and mortar stores.
Say RSC gets the figure as their next exclusive (what is the time gaps between the releases?), they could push for special SES packaging or something of the sort. Perhaps reserve the figure for an exclusive four pack that features Punk in different outfits throughout his tenure.
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Mar 21, 2011 19:56:53 GMT -5
Would you all shut the hell up? What's more annoying than "C'mon guys, let's get this to 20 pages!"... is a childish argument over how the WWE feels about the license. I hope this gets locked at page 19. Not even sure why it was unlocked, in the first place.- Triple S Agreed And That's why I am stopping the argument, whether people think I am wrong or not. Thought you were done commenting.
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Post by guster on Mar 21, 2011 20:05:07 GMT -5
RKOwned - Do you realize that both THQ and Mattel reached out to Macho Man and signed him against WWE's wish?
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Post by JCF on Mar 21, 2011 20:11:28 GMT -5
One more fight and it's being locked.
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Post by guster on Mar 21, 2011 20:13:43 GMT -5
Also, why do you assume that WWE told Mattel "YOU CAN NEVER RELEASE THAT FIGURE!!!!! EVAHHHHH!!!!"
No...they asked Mattel to not include him in Elite 9/10. Mattel has a pretty good track record of listening to their collectors, so it wouldn't surprise me if they did this as an online exclusive or even just sold the mask separately.
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Mar 21, 2011 20:16:04 GMT -5
One more fight and it's being locked. Well, I just know that RKOwned, Triple S, or MML will start a fight and get this locked on purpose.
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Post by JCF on Mar 21, 2011 20:17:19 GMT -5
One more fight and it's being locked. Well, I just know that RKOwned, Triple S, or MML will start a fight and get this locked on purpose. Ignore it.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Mar 21, 2011 20:34:11 GMT -5
Well, I just know that RKOwned, Triple S, or MML will start a fight and get this locked on purpose. Ignore it. Its the internet! You can't ignore a fight! I hope it gets released, and honestly, its very possible for it to be as some type of online exclusive. The only reason the figure was pulled is because it is "out of date". Well, the Kane and Rey exclusives are "out of date" as well. Not saying it will happen, but I'm sure if Mattel does a little reaching out and negotiating, they COULD get it to work. WWE shouldn't have a problem with that compromise, as there clearly seems to be a demand for the figure, but again, this is all theoretical.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 20:36:26 GMT -5
I've been viewing these boards for a long time and after seeing that Punk figure earlier today that sealed the deal, I had to make an account to help get the word out. Release that Punk fig Mattel! Standard release or Ringside exclusive, that would be the first figure of any kind I'd buy in years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 20:37:55 GMT -5
What does 20 pages have to do with anything? Is that when they'll listen or something?
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