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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2011 14:38:03 GMT -5
A lot, A lot, A lot of people like to claim that Cena no sells, or doesn't sell when he should.
Like at that one Hell In A Cell where failed to no sell Orton's punt after he got up after the match.
But I've seen Hogan take a tombstone pile-driver and get right up! I've the Ultimate Warrior take a plethora of elbows from the Macho Man and get right up. The Big Show WAS THROWN OFF A BUILDING and still came out.
Cena got stabbed at night club was fine after few weeks
The Rock got beaten half to death by the NWO and came back in less time.
..why is okay for these guys to that and Cena who isn't nearly as bad at no selling as Warrior and Hogan.
We try to put to much logic into it, and for some it's still real dammit.
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Post by DMO™ on Mar 31, 2011 14:41:16 GMT -5
Don't forget when HHH hit Warrior with a pedigree and he got up just as fast as HHH did.
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Post by jbarqu88 on Mar 31, 2011 14:44:47 GMT -5
Because Big Show really is super-human!
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Post by slappy on Mar 31, 2011 14:51:03 GMT -5
People do hate on them but you don't see it much because Warrior and Hogan aren't wrestling anymore.
Remember when HHH got crushed by the car and was fine?
Or Abyss being killed and being fine now?
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 31, 2011 14:52:34 GMT -5
taker no selling hbks super kick and edge's spear
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Post by Rob on Mar 31, 2011 14:52:49 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior and Hogan are some of the worse sellers ive ever seen
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Post by Mirror Images on Mar 31, 2011 14:53:26 GMT -5
Yes but Cena doesnt look like he could take a beating realistically. Big Show and Undertaker do.
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Post by carling27 on Mar 31, 2011 14:57:27 GMT -5
It was annoying then and it's annoying now.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 31, 2011 15:05:57 GMT -5
Just an excuse to bash Cena.
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Post by hbkrules on Mar 31, 2011 16:47:47 GMT -5
no selling is a wrestling tradition and basically any main event power style wrestler will do it sometimes.
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 31, 2011 17:05:58 GMT -5
It's a pain, but its bound to happen now and again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2011 17:11:41 GMT -5
Macho giving Warrior 5 elbows in a row and still kicking out put Warrior over as an energetic superhuman-type character, which was what the Warrior was about. He was justified because he was one of those guys who was built as superhuman. He even looked like a superhero.
Hogan's return was justified because he "Hulked-up." That was his thing, once he hulked up, you were screwed. He went on an adrenaline rush, gave them the boot, the leg drop and got the win. Again, Hogan was a superhero type character that worked in the 80s, just like Warrior.
John Cena isn't justified because we're in 2011. He is booked as a NORMAL GUY. John Cena comes out in jean shorts, cuts corny jokes, he is a normal guy. There's nothing superhuman about his image or character. His win-loss record, on the other hand is superhuman. And that's what pisses people off. The guy hasn't lost a match clean with no shananigans since April 2007. And that was to Shawn Michaels in England. Do you blame people for getting pissed off? Cause I don't. WWE don't even acknowledge how superhuman John Cena really is. They play him off as this guy that works hard and "gives it his all." And that's what annoys us.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Mar 31, 2011 17:17:40 GMT -5
Macho giving Warrior 5 elbows in a row and still kicking out put Warrior over as an energetic superhuman-type character, which was what the Warrior was about. He was justified because he was one of those guys who was built as superhuman. He even looked like a superhero. Hogan's return was justified because he "Hulked-up." That was his thing, once he hulked up, you were screwed. He went on an adrenaline rush, gave them the boot, the leg drop and got the win. Again, Hogan was a superhero type character that worked in the 80s, just like Warrior. John Cena isn't justified because we're in 2011. He is booked as a NORMAL GUY. John Cena comes out in jean shorts, cuts corny jokes, he is a normal guy. There's nothing superhuman about his image or character. His win-loss record, on the other hand is superhuman. And that's what pisses people off. The guy hasn't lost a match clean with no shananigans since April 2007. And that was to Shawn Michaels in England. Do you blame people for getting pissed off? Cause I don't. WWE don't even acknowledge how superhuman John Cena really is. They play him off as this guy that works hard and "gives it his all." And that's what annoys us. Pretty much this. |
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Post by Lewscher on Mar 31, 2011 17:40:18 GMT -5
He even looked like a superhero. He looks like a man wearing pants and his kids bike tassels who just fell in his kids pot of paints. also wrestling 'storylines' are telling a story, not a documentary, expect crazy crapto happen -.- |
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Post by MacReady on Mar 31, 2011 17:44:10 GMT -5
Because John Cena is the WF anti Christ!
ZOMG HE DID TEH NO SELL! HE SUXXXX!! ATTITUDE ERA 4 LYFE!!!
Seriously though, haters will look for any reason to bash the guy, no matter how hard he tries.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Mar 31, 2011 19:01:45 GMT -5
Macho giving Warrior 5 elbows in a row and still kicking out put Warrior over as an energetic superhuman-type character, which was what the Warrior was about. He was justified because he was one of those guys who was built as superhuman. He even looked like a superhero. Hogan's return was justified because he "Hulked-up." That was his thing, once he hulked up, you were screwed. He went on an adrenaline rush, gave them the boot, the leg drop and got the win. Again, Hogan was a superhero type character that worked in the 80s, just like Warrior. John Cena isn't justified because we're in 2011. He is booked as a NORMAL GUY. John Cena comes out in jean shorts, cuts corny jokes, he is a normal guy. There's nothing superhuman about his image or character. His win-loss record, on the other hand is superhuman. And that's what pisses people off. The guy hasn't lost a match clean with no shananigans since April 2007. And that was to Shawn Michaels in England. Do you blame people for getting pissed off? Cause I don't. WWE don't even acknowledge how superhuman John Cena really is. They play him off as this guy that works hard and "gives it his all." And that's what annoys us. You were bound to make sense one of these days.  |
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Post by HugoOne on Mar 31, 2011 19:39:52 GMT -5
Macho giving Warrior 5 elbows in a row and still kicking out put Warrior over as an energetic superhuman-type character, which was what the Warrior was about. He was justified because he was one of those guys who was built as superhuman. He even looked like a superhero. Not even just that, but the whole point of that match was that Randy Savage WAS going to leave the WWF, so they wanted the Ultimate Warrior to look like an absolute monster. Savage's finisher could be no sold because it wouldn't be relevant the next day. Of course, as fate would have it, Savage was winning the WWF Championship a year later and the Ultimate Warrior was begging for a job. |
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Post by pacey on Mar 31, 2011 19:43:20 GMT -5
Just a few random thoughts about no selling.
When I think about no selling I think about The Road Warriors and then others copying them. Demolition, Warlord, Barbarian come to mind.
The Undertaker's career was built around no selling.
HBK nipping up at the end of the iron man match is a great example of no selling.
Cena not selling in high profile matches like WM23 got HBK super pissed.
Evan Bourne's selling really bugs me. He sells like death and is fine running the ropes like the match just started and it makes me crazy. His selling like he just got killed is great and he ruins it by not selling on his comebacks.
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Post by No Brokeback on Mar 31, 2011 19:46:45 GMT -5
I don't understand why people hate the 'no selling'. Unless it's actually intentional that you don't want to sell a move to make the other person look bad on purpose.
However, when it's part of your gimmick from Hogan, Warrior, Cena- ect...I don't understand why people hate it. As it's just to get the audience alive and cheering for their favorite superstar.
However, if there is some random jobber that's getting punched and punched and piledrove and everything and gets right back up without holding his head and looking like he's in pain..then there's a reason to be angry with them. As a wrestler and as a fan.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 31, 2011 20:14:22 GMT -5
Cena and Hogan are slightly different variations of the same Saturday morning cartoon character. I personally enjoy Cena way more than I ever enjoyed Hogan but I think the similarities are pretty apparent. Warrior, Hogan, Goldberg, Cena, those are not guys that operate within the same blueprint as normal professional wrestlers. Which from a financial standpoint is a great thing. Generally speaking, it is guys with an absurd amount of charisma and not in-ring talent that draws money. Why after all these years of seeing that do we still get bent out of shape? I enjoy Cena, he isn't going anywhere, stop losing sleep and getting worked up over him.
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