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Post by man on Nov 29, 2007 13:13:12 GMT -5
I check YouTube and could not find it. Does anyone have the clip of when Luger flew in on the helicopter and slammed Yokozuna on July 4th at the bodyslam challenge in 1993?
Thank you.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 29, 2007 14:17:10 GMT -5
It was no slam it was a hip toss.
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Post by Raine on Nov 29, 2007 14:19:53 GMT -5
Look for Ahmed Johnson slamming Yoko, that was a slam
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Post by man on Nov 29, 2007 14:30:14 GMT -5
I saw the Ahmed Johnson slam:
It sucked too! Nither him nor Luger actually bodyslammed Yoko. They NEVER turned him after the initial pick up.
Hogan and Warrior were clearly stronger than either Johnson or Luger. When Hogan and Warrior respectively slammed Andre it was a clean lift AND turn.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Nov 29, 2007 17:52:54 GMT -5
I saw the Ahmed Johnson slam: It sucked too! Nither him nor Luger actually bodyslammed Yoko. They NEVER turned him after the initial pick up. Hogan and Warrior were clearly stronger than either Johnson or Luger. When Hogan and Warrior respectively slammed Andre it was a clean lift AND turn. Wasn't Andre, like 200 pounds lighter than Yokozuna? |
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Post by man on Nov 29, 2007 18:16:11 GMT -5
Towards the end of Yokozuna’s career, yes. But not early on.
Andre was 525 at WM3 when Hogan slammed him. He only got heavier after that. Both Hogan and Warrior slammed Andre within the 550 lb range.
Yokozuna was 500 lbs at WM9 and 550 lb during the Luger feud. Don’t know how heavy he was when Ahmed “slammed” him. Regardless, Yokozuna was never BODYSLAMMED as nobody ever made the “turn”. That’s the hard part of the slam.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 30, 2007 4:48:46 GMT -5
Look at yoko's gut compared to Andres though do you not think that was more of a factor in people not being able to turn him over than his actual weight.
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Post by Dwight on Nov 30, 2007 6:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by JCWBobC on Nov 30, 2007 9:15:46 GMT -5
I have that on DVD from when it first aired and I'm sorry but it was not a hip toss as a hip toss is when the other guy is semi-behind the first guy.
I haven't watched it in a while and it's kind of hard to explain but if you watch Yoko turns into it so Luger doesn't have that far to turn him.
Bob
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 30, 2007 9:49:47 GMT -5
I have that on DVD from when it first aired and I'm sorry but it was not a hip toss as a hip toss is when the other guy is semi-behind the first guy. I haven't watched it in a while and it's kind of hard to explain but if you watch Yoko turns into it so Luger doesn't have that far to turn him. Bob Lol I know what a hip toss is when I said it was a hip toss I was making a reference not actualy saying I thought it was a hip toss. If you saw it when it first aired you would know Mr Fuji was always saying it was a hip toss. |
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Post by JCWBobC on Nov 30, 2007 10:01:32 GMT -5
Gotcha.
I know their are a lot of young guys on the board that weren't around back then so it's hard to tell when someone actually knows what they are talking about or are just making things up. If you had said it in a Mr. Fuji voice I would have gotten it right away.
Off topic I love your wrestling game reviews as they bring back so many memories of games I used to play. Every system I have ever bought was because of a wrestling game starting with the first Nintendo.
Bob
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Post by fair2flair on Nov 30, 2007 15:21:34 GMT -5
Warrior was the strongest ever he slammed Andre clean in the Fall of 1989 2 1/2 years after Hogan did it when Andre was much heavier. Warrior would have slammed Yokozuna easy.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 30, 2007 16:50:26 GMT -5
Gotcha. I know their are a lot of young guys on the board that weren't around back then so it's hard to tell when someone actually knows what they are talking about or are just making things up. If you had said it in a Mr. Fuji voice I would have gotten it right away. Off topic I love your wrestling game reviews as they bring back so many memories of games I used to play. Every system I have ever bought was because of a wrestling game starting with the first Nintendo. Bob Cheers dude I am working on some video reviews I hope to have the first one up in a little while. |
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Post by Great White Shark on Dec 2, 2007 5:18:01 GMT -5
Warrior was the strongest ever he slammed Andre clean in the Fall of 1989 2 1/2 years after Hogan did it when Andre was much heavier. Warrior would have slammed Yokozuna easy. Plus the fact that Warrior was a lot lighter than Hogan. Warrior was between 250 - 275 pounds whereas Hogan was over 300. |
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Post by man on Dec 3, 2007 15:49:00 GMT -5
That doesn't really mean Warrior was stronger. We can't assume that 525 lbs Andre was the heaviest that Hogan could've slammed.
Keep in mind that Hogan continued slamming the Big Show (460-500 lbs) well into his 50's, even as recently as last year.
I doubt that the Andre slam was the peak of Hogan's lift potential.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Dec 3, 2007 18:54:51 GMT -5
In fairness to the guys who tried to slam Yokozuna, there is more to a bodyslam than just the weight of the guy getting slammed.
You also have to consider things like height and momentum. A person's butt is their center of gravity. Not only was Yoko's center of gravity a lot wider and rounder than Andre's, but Yoko was also much shorter than Andre, which means Luger and Ahmed would have to lift the heaviest part of Yoko's body from a lower starting point, making it a way more difficult lift.
Compare that to Andre: He was probably easier to slam because he was less "round" and his center of gravity was higher. If Andre turned into the slam (as all wrestlers do, to an extent), he'd be giving Hogan, Warrior, etc. a far better starting point for the lift than Yokozuna ever could.
And because Andre could turn into a slam more successfully than Yoko (who if you notice, sort of "jumps" into a slam due to being short), he creates better momentum, so the guy slamming him can do less "lifting" and more "guiding" Andre to the mat with his own momentum.
I've never trained to wrestle, but I have seen a couple of training sessions where the trainers note that a body slam -- done correctly with full cooperation from the guy getting slammed -- can almost be done with one arm, because there isn't as much lifting involved as it appears to the untrained eye.
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Post by Steve. on Dec 5, 2007 13:39:30 GMT -5
It was no slam it was a hip toss. Lmao Bobby Hennan. He always insisted on that. And so did I. Yoko should have squashed Luger and Taker at Survivor Series 93. Foreign Fanatics ! |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 5, 2007 17:16:52 GMT -5
Although it wasn't a true bodyslam, I think it's the best Luger could've done and I think he did a hell of a job considering how much Yoko weighed at the time.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 5, 2007 22:27:42 GMT -5
Anyone have a vid of Warrior's slam?
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Post by carlito24uk on Dec 11, 2007 14:25:19 GMT -5
warrior was a powerhouse.
im sure steiner and crush could have slammed yoko in that day.
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