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Post by carly1988 on Jan 5, 2008 5:02:58 GMT -5
There has to be more then 3 belts. Half of those belts never looked the same
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Post by eandcking on Jan 5, 2008 23:01:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I believe there were more than 3 copies of that belt. I wouldn't be surprised if Flair still has the original . . . . or maybe not. DDP actually has his copy of the title, as it is supposed to be used to mold real replica belts (not the ones commercially available, but the real deal that costs $1000's) in the near future.
I do know for a fact that a guy named Dave Millican has the original Ric Flair nameplate. You can see a picture of it on his site.
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Post by ToastMaster General on Jan 6, 2008 0:40:47 GMT -5
The orignal version of Big Gold is owned by WWE. It's still used in photo shoots while the newer Big Gold travels from town to town. You can see the orignal big gold on WWE.com under some of Batista's pictures. You can tell it's the orignal by the Dent on top of the belt.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 6, 2008 0:49:11 GMT -5
The orignal version of Big Gold is owned by WWE. It's still used in photo shoots while the newer Big Gold travels from town to town. You can see the orignal big gold on WWE.com under some of Batista's pictures. You can tell it's the orignal by the Dent on top of the belt. There is a picture of him in his formal wear where hes holding the big old belt thats not the WWE version but thats the later version that was given to Booker T/Jeff Jarrett at bash at the beach. It isnt the one Flair, Chono, Sting, Muta etc carried
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Post by ToastMaster General on Jan 6, 2008 1:19:33 GMT -5
It is actually. Like I said you can tell by the dent. However it doesn't look like the one given to Flair, Sting, Chono, etc. because of a horrible replating and releathering job. It's only used for promotional items like photo shoots nowadays.
The WCW title used for the Raw title was the one used by Booker T., JJ, and Scott Steiner.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 6, 2008 3:13:17 GMT -5
Here is the title that Ric Flair, Sting, Dusty Rhodes held that was taken to the WWF.... Now at some point (im assuming when either Flair returned the title and it was used as the International title or the nwo angle where they painted the belt) the belt changed. Notice the name plate change. Thats where the big key was.... Now during bash at the beach the big Jarrett-Hogan work/shoot screw job in the second match they debuted a title that looks slightly smaller, either the mold was smaller or the strap got bigger. If you watch the video you can clearly see the difference. This is the title that the end of WCW and the WWF Invasion angle used.... Once the titles were combined and Triple H was awarded the new belt they gave it a curve like most titles and put the WWE logo on the top like this one..... Clearly everyone can see that there were 3 different title belts. The problem with championshp belts is sometimes after the champion loses the title he can keep the belt. The WCW world title "luger version" was hanging in Charlotte, NC Ric Flairs gold gym last time I was there. Rhyno still has the ECW world title. What nobody knows is how many titles there were total and WHO has the original that Flair and Rhodes fought over, because the one WWE has isnt the same one the NWA used
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Post by eandcking on Jan 6, 2008 3:54:38 GMT -5
You've gotta hand it to G-Money, he really knows his sh*t when it comes to stuff like this, and goes out of his way to do the research so everyone else can know as well. Props there, bro. I never knew that Batista was pictured with one of the old wCw title belts, but he obviously is . . . . you can plainly see the lack of the WWE logo at the top of the belt. The only thing I could add is that the WHC belt that was awarded to HHH wasn't the version with the WWE logo. That came a few months later, perhaps just after he regained the strap from HBK. You really need to check out www.davemillicanbelts.com to see that original Flair nameplate. There's also a couple of pics on there of the Winged Eagle belt that Mr. Perfect destroyed on tv.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 6, 2008 6:31:43 GMT -5
You've gotta hand it to G-Money, he really knows his sh*t when it comes to stuff like this, and goes out of his way to do the research so everyone else can know as well. Props there, bro. I never knew that Batista was pictured with one of the old wCw title belts, but he obviously is . . . . you can plainly see the lack of the WWE logo at the top of the belt. The only thing I could add is that the WHC belt that was awarded to HHH wasn't the version with the WWE logo. That came a few months later, perhaps just after he regained the strap from HBK. You really need to check out www.davemillicanbelts.com to see that original Flair nameplate. There's also a couple of pics on there of the Winged Eagle belt that Mr. Perfect destroyed on tv. Millican...THATS the guys name...I was looking for Mulligan haha
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