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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 20:59:28 GMT -5
They shipped them. TRU didn't grow'em. They shipped them to the TRU distribution center and your TRU got that many from the distributor. Mattel doesn't decide how many sets each TRU gets. Ok, whatever. I'm just sick of going to buy new figures and coming home with nothing. I've done this more than ever with Mattel. My stores have nothing new and I'm over it. The distribution sucks plain and simple. I don't order figures, I'm old school, I like the thrill of the hunt and the thrill is gone.
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Apr 19, 2011 21:04:23 GMT -5
They shipped them to the TRU distribution center and your TRU got that many from the distributor. Mattel doesn't decide how many sets each TRU gets. Ok, whatever. I'm just sick of going to buy new figures and coming home with nothing. I've done this more than ever with Mattel. My stores have nothing new and I'm over it. The distribution sucks plain and simple. I don't order figures, I'm old school, I like the thrill of the hunt and the thrill is gone. This. Especially if you live in Chicago.
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Post by slappy on Apr 19, 2011 21:09:58 GMT -5
They shipped them to the TRU distribution center and your TRU got that many from the distributor. Mattel doesn't decide how many sets each TRU gets. Ok, whatever. I'm just sick of going to buy new figures and coming home with nothing. I've done this more than ever with Mattel. My stores have nothing new and I'm over it. The distribution sucks plain and simple. I don't order figures, I'm old school, I like the thrill of the hunt and the thrill is gone. Hate TRU then. My TRU sucks so I go to K-Mart. K-Mart is much better than TRU.
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Post by ckhybrid on Apr 19, 2011 21:15:19 GMT -5
This thread is ridiculous. Some of you need to go get a life. this.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Apr 19, 2011 21:15:26 GMT -5
The Elite threads are never this doom and gloom. ;-) but the 15 of us that collect Legends and post 80 times in a thread definitely keep things from getting dull.
For some optimistic news I'm looking forward to seeing what Bret's Elite and DM figures look like. I'm hoping SDCC has a lot of new reveals for Legends.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Apr 19, 2011 22:27:25 GMT -5
Only a moron would hate that Martel figure, near flawless replica of the man.....
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 23:07:36 GMT -5
Look, the fact remains that things do not look to be going in our favor. Let's look at the cold, hard FACTS:
1) Legends 2 packs were filled with unsellable characters,and do extremely poor. 2) SO poor, in fact, that the second series is cancelled altogether. 3) The Classics ring? Cancelled. 4) Series dropped from 6 to 4 figures per series. That doesn't look good on a line that is selling "well". 5) No news beyond Legends series 6 (which is filled with the unsellable Von Erichs. Sorry, but they WILL pegwarm.) No pre-orders. Nothing to speak of in sight. 6) Mattel's silence on the matter, followed by Bill's "statement."
Look, for all their faults, at least Jakks kept folks up to date on what was going on with the line. New signings, etc. They gave people attires that they actually wante. It was filled with BIG names, and a good mix of obscure. There is absolutely NO reason that Jakks can have a line of 8 Classics superstars in a series, and Mattel can't give us 6. Hell, now it seems like 4 is pushing it!
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 23:10:32 GMT -5
This thread is ridiculous. Some of you need to go get a life. Yes, people talking about Mattel toys on the Mattel toy forum where YOU yourself are posting= people needing to go get a life. You should probably go to Hell.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Apr 19, 2011 23:34:11 GMT -5
This thread is ridiculous. Some of you need to go get a life. Yes, people talking about Mattel toys on the Mattel toy forum where YOU yourself are posting= people needing to go get a life. You should probably go to Hell. agreed we're all just getting excited hoping its good news..
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Post by STING on Apr 19, 2011 23:50:39 GMT -5
Look, the fact remains that things do not look to be going in our favor. Let's look at the cold, hard FACTS: 1) Legends 2 packs were filled with unsellable characters,and do extremely poor. 2) SO poor, in fact, that the second series is cancelled altogether. 3) The Classics ring? Cancelled. 4) Series dropped from 6 to 4 figures per series. That doesn't look good on a line that is selling "well". 5) No news beyond Legends series 6 (which is filled with the unsellable Von Erichs. Sorry, but they WILL pegwarm.) No pre-orders. Nothing to speak of in sight. 6) Mattel's silence on the matter, followed by Bill's "statement." Look, for all their faults, at least Jakks kept folks up to date on what was going on with the line. New signings, etc. They gave people attires that they actually wante. It was filled with BIG names, and a good mix of obscure. There is absolutely NO reason that Jakks can have a line of 8 Classics superstars in a series, and Mattel can't give us 6. Hell, now it seems like 4 is pushing it! I TOTALLY agree with EVERYTHING stated. Very true.
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Post by hbkrules on Apr 20, 2011 0:07:37 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem is that most people already bought legends figs of most superstars from Jakks. I mean there aren't really many people who are going to buy two of every guy. Who needs two akeem's lol. Mattel's figs are certainly better but I'm not going to pay $16 for a guy I already have from jakks.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Apr 20, 2011 0:13:44 GMT -5
Hey yo...
Survey says: these doom thinking people are Jakks junks...
Jakks could crank out 28 MEDIOCRE CS series, so Mattel can do at least the double; Mattel is far more superior!
Besides; I NEED the Rockers and Marty Jannetty!!!
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Post by Neos on Apr 20, 2011 1:55:50 GMT -5
Look, the fact remains that things do not look to be going in our favor. Let's look at the cold, hard FACTS: 1) Legends 2 packs were filled with unsellable characters,and do extremely poor. 2) SO poor, in fact, that the second series is cancelled altogether. 3) The Classics ring? Cancelled. 4) Series dropped from 6 to 4 figures per series. That doesn't look good on a line that is selling "well". 5) No news beyond Legends series 6 (which is filled with the unsellable Von Erichs. Sorry, but they WILL pegwarm.) No pre-orders. Nothing to speak of in sight. 6) Mattel's silence on the matter, followed by Bill's "statement." Look, for all their faults, at least Jakks kept folks up to date on what was going on with the line. New signings, etc. They gave people attires that they actually wante. It was filled with BIG names, and a good mix of obscure. There is absolutely NO reason that Jakks can have a line of 8 Classics superstars in a series, and Mattel can't give us 6. Hell, now it seems like 4 is pushing it! Amen, Mattel fans just are in denial since they love their figures so much but the matter of the fact is that Mattel isn't doing so well in the legends area. Mattel reason of thinning the lineups to 4 was plain BS, since jakks fans used to buy all 8 figures in a series for about $12-$14 each while Mattels can't even sell an entire set of 6 for $15-$17 each. Legends just aren't doing well but Mattel decided to cover it by saying that they were dropping two figures in each line for the "fans". Who ever heard of a company who didn't want to make money when they clearly have a chance to do so? It's just a bad excuse. Then the Legends 2pack line gets canceled and everybody gets all upset when ironicly enough it was their fault for not buying the figures in the first place. Then the Legends ring got canceled without warning despite all the Legends fan waiting for it instead of the Elite ring. Now Mattel isn't even sure when it will come out, which is just ridiculous. Also, if their attire choices were better in the first 2 series, maybe they wouldn't be warming so many shelves right now. So basicly, Mattel quality is good but their logic is absolutely crap.
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Post by Neos on Apr 20, 2011 2:00:26 GMT -5
Hey yo... Survey says: these doom thinking people are Jakks junks... Jakks could crank out 28 MEDIOCRE CS series, so Mattel can do at least the double; Mattel is far more superior! Besides; I NEED the Rockers and Marty Jannetty!!! Well at least Jakks had 8 figures in a large majority of their lineups, a 2pack series that actually made it past the first series, several Classic style rings, a 3pack series as well, tons of great exclusives, and the deluxe style spinoff. Mattel? 4 series of 6 figure lineups then downscaled to 4 and a 2pack that never even made it past series 1. So yeah, Jakks was "mediocre" when compared to Mattel.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Apr 20, 2011 2:28:55 GMT -5
So yeah, Jakks was "mediocre" when compared to Mattel. Jakks was/is mediocre: lack of detail (costumes only painted frontside, Jannetty is a prime example!), never heard of scale (what, you silly fans don't know Rey Jr. is a 7 foot giant?)
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Post by Neos on Apr 20, 2011 2:46:03 GMT -5
So yeah, Jakks was "mediocre" when compared to Mattel. Jakks was/is mediocre: lack of detail (costumes only painted frontside, Jannetty is a prime example!), never heard of scale (what, you silly fans don't know Rey Jr. is a 7 foot giant?) You do realize that Rey CS figure was not as tall as any Big Shows right? Granted, Jakks wasn't perfect but at least they had successful lines whereas Mattel can't even handle a single line with 4 figures in it. Jakks figures may suck in comparison to mattels, but at least they made a bigger profit and were very successful.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Apr 20, 2011 3:06:17 GMT -5
The differences between Mattel and Jakks CS/Legends is the picture perfect definition of "quantity vs quality". Jakks basically shat out figures every CS wave. Once in awhile, we'd get a really good one with appropriate accessory/robe. Usually, we'd get the thrown together parts with maybe a cookiesheet or an unpainted title belt. No attention to scale, often missing details, and towards the end mismatched skintones and bobbleheads. It got friggin' ridiculous. You look at fantastic figures like The Bezerker from CS23, and from the same wave they made that god awful Slimfast edition Big Bossman with recycled Paulie shirtmold from the Rocky series, with an old TTL head from 8 years prior! It was complete inconsistency. Making Paul Bearer tower over The Undertaker was ing hilarious, too. I'm not some Mattel apologist - they don't always hit the mark, and I actually just made a big post about their worst work so far. But you can actually tell they give a ****. When they made Vader, they made sure to give him his short boots, give him a removable mask, the entrance cape, and a body mold that didn't belong to a man twice his size. The thing about Legends is this - they overestimated the demand. If you look at the first series, that's actually a really good line-up. Steamboat's first figure in god knows how many years, old school Road Warriors with all their spikey accessories, Austin 3:16, Sgt Slaughter in unique gear he wasn't made in before, and Dusty Rhodes' trademark polka dot outfit that was only released as a long out of stock online exclusive for Jakks. 6 marketable names, 6 good figures. They didn't sell that well aside from Austin and in most cases The Road Warriors. So, what went wrong? I don't know for sure. I think there's still a lot of negative stigma from older collectors who bought Jakks CS and were used to the bulkier and bigger figures. I think the idea of having to rebuy a collection again, which did ring up for more money than the previous, has a lot to do with it. Maybe it was just a growing pains kind of thing? Or maybe even though the figures are at large much better than ever before, the premium pricepoint has caused people to be more selective. It's probably a lot of different things. The first series of 2-packs had a horrible line-up though, and at $30, I'm not remotely surprised to see it fail. If it would've launched with L4 Demolition, The Bushwackers and Edge/Christian or someone? We'd probably be talking about the upcoming 3rd set by now. But yeah, this could all be smoke in the air. It's speculation, and we don't even know what this potential announcement will be pertaining to. I am worried about the future of the line, but from my experience, 3 & 4 are doing much better than 1 & 2. With the cancellation of the ring and the reduced figure assortments, there IS a reason for concern. But at the same time, they made the assortment changes TO keep the line going in 2011. So I have no idea.
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Post by thekaniac on Apr 20, 2011 5:36:50 GMT -5
I have an idea for Mattel to sell those pegwarmers send them to TRU in the UK!!!!!!
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Post by LeighD on Apr 20, 2011 6:06:51 GMT -5
The differences between Mattel and Jakks CS/Legends is the picture perfect definition of "quantity vs quality". Jakks basically shat out figures every CS wave. Once in awhile, we'd get a really good one with appropriate accessory/robe. Usually, we'd get the thrown together parts with maybe a cookiesheet or an unpainted title belt. No attention to scale, often missing details, and towards the end mismatched skintones and bobbleheads. It got friggin' ridiculous. You look at fantastic figures like The Bezerker from CS23, and from the same wave they made that god awful Slimfast edition Big Bossman with recycled Paulie shirtmold from the Rocky series, with an old TTL head from 8 years prior! It was complete inconsistency. Making Paul Bearer tower over The Undertaker was ing hilarious, too. I'm not some Mattel apologist - they don't always hit the mark, and I actually just made a big post about their worst work so far. But you can actually tell they give a ****. When they made Vader, they made sure to give him his short boots, give him a removable mask, the entrance cape, and a body mold that didn't belong to a man twice his size. The thing about Legends is this - they overestimated the demand. If you look at the first series, that's actually a really good line-up. Steamboat's first figure in god knows how many years, old school Road Warriors with all their spikey accessories, Austin 3:16, Sgt Slaughter in unique gear he wasn't made in before, and Dusty Rhodes' trademark polka dot outfit that was only released as a long out of stock online exclusive for Jakks. 6 marketable names, 6 good figures. They didn't sell that well aside from Austin and in most cases The Road Warriors. So, what went wrong? I don't know for sure. I think there's still a lot of negative stigma from older collectors who bought Jakks CS and were used to the bulkier and bigger figures. I think the idea of having to rebuy a collection again, which did ring up for more money than the previous, has a lot to do with it. Maybe it was just a growing pains kind of thing? Or maybe even though the figures are at large much better than ever before, the premium pricepoint has caused people to be more selective. It's probably a lot of different things. The first series of 2-packs had a horrible line-up though, and at $30, I'm not remotely surprised to see it fail. If it would've launched with L4 Demolition, The Bushwackers and Edge/Christian or someone? We'd probably be talking about the upcoming 3rd set by now. But yeah, this could all be smoke in the air. It's speculation, and we don't even know what this potential announcement will be pertaining to. I am worried about the future of the line, but from my experience, 3 & 4 are doing much better than 1 & 2. With the cancellation of the ring and the reduced figure assortments, there IS a reason for concern. But at the same time, they made the assortment changes TO keep the line going in 2011. So I have no idea. I agree with some of what you said. I don't think JAKKS "Shat" out figures every CS wave. It really wasn't until CS 18 or so that things really started to fumble a bit and go downhill from there. I definitely agree with what you said about Mattel overestimating the demand for Legends. I think since the economy' shat hit the fan a few years ago things haven't been great in the demand for legends as most are bought by older collectors. If I had to guess I'd say Mattel is keeping the Legends line the same until the end of the year and will decide a different pattern in distributing their Legends figures.
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Post by Warrior on Apr 20, 2011 7:12:30 GMT -5
I really loved legends line more than the elite current roster and it brings back my childhood memories with their memorable accessories so i absolutely believe Mattel wont do anything stupid by removing it from their market
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