hurrimark
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Post by hurrimark on May 5, 2011 10:40:22 GMT -5
If you don't like my comments, then just ignore them. Kinda hard when every bastard topic has more often than not multiple pointless comments. First time I've commented, and looking at your karma, isn't gonna change. So whatever nob-rot. But it just seems like your a spammer/troll more often than not. Guess I won't feed ya anymore. Trolls love spam - it's their favourite food! On topic: Christian's short reign is a joke and Orton probably contributed to it (politics/sway wise) however I can't say for sure.
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Post by MacReady on May 5, 2011 10:42:05 GMT -5
I love Christian, but I love Orton just as much.
I'm disappointed they ripped the belt off Christian so quickly, but part of me is also glad to see Orton with title again.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 5, 2011 10:54:38 GMT -5
How is he trolling? Hes just pointing out his opinion and in his opinion and my opinion and LOADS of people's opinion Orton sucks balls.
How the hell does he get another World Title? hes already had 6, he won at WM and at ER, he squashed the Entire New Nexus including Punk TWICE.
Hes been an A-HOLE backstage for a long time, I don't care what people say about Cena yeah im NOT a fan of him and haven't been since 05 but i would take Cena and his "5 moves of doom" any day over Blandy Boreton
Their in ring work and promos suck but Cena works harder then anyone else and has NEVER been an bunghole backstage unlike Orton
Christian is better then Orton in the ring and on the mic, hes more deserving and his one and only World Title reign owns all of Orton's Title reigns. And yes it is Ortons fault including management all Orton had to do is say No like HBK and Flair did lots of times to become World Champ again
His gimmick doesn't suit him aswell, he thinks hes a badass backstage with his "bad temper" and on TV, Well in 2009 he ALMOST got dropped on his head so he goes crying backstage like a PU$$Y to Vince and gets Kennedy fired, But Austin DID get dropped on his neck and still got up and still wrestled for years and he never got Owen fired for that and still paid tribute to the man when he died
I really want Lesnar to come back and kick Ortons ass in a backstage fight, Orton picks fights with fans and with a little weak Mexican reporter but Orton is not a legit tough guy and i bet hes the weakest guy in real life on the WWE roster
I still love WWE but that decision was one of the worst moves they have ever done, i hope Christian regains HIS belt at OTL
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noir
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Post by noir on May 5, 2011 12:26:45 GMT -5
The worst part for me in all of this is that Randy Orton was the one to take the title off Christian. Randy Orton for me, is the personification of what is wrong with the company. The only thing going for him is that he's marketable. It's as if charisma and in ring talent is trumped by how many t-shirts a guy can sell. His schtick got old a long, long time ago - even then it was never particularly interesting. His promos lack any sort of emotion or intensity. His in ring skill set is dull as **** (poor selling, acts as if he is simply going through the motions every match) and to top it all off he has these ridiculous facial expressions that demonstrate some sort of mental defection rather than anger or hatred. People complain about Cena for his predictable moveset but there is no denying the electricity generated from his promos and general speaking. He looks like he means every word. People criticize John Morrison for having as much charisma as a bathroom sponge. But every match you're guaranteed a 'wow' moment and it's getting to that point where you just can't wait to see what innovation he'll bring to his next PPV. But what does Orton have? People always credit him for being 'over'. Has it gotten to the point where we, as fans, with absolutely no tie to WWE's finances care more about how much revenue these guys provide a company than entertainment? I judge a guy for being innovative, interesting, exciting: three things that Randy Orton lacks. Christ, he even managed to make a program with CM Punk to be as boring as watching paint dry. CM Punk, one of the most well rounded competitors in the business. I maintain that Randy Orton only got to where he is now because WWE threw sh*t at a wall and in his case, it happened to stick.
If it was someone like Alberto Del Rio or Cody Rhodes (guys who could do with picking up the title off a top babyface and who are actually entertaining), my attitude would be totally different towards this quick title change. Randy Orton though? Why is he handed this ridiculous concessions? Wrestling has always been about working your way to your top and earning your spot. He gets drafted and the next week is champion! If you don't think your current champion will bring in enough viewers, or you think Orton deserves the title better, that's one thing. But what happened to title changes through feuds? Christ, it really pisses me off to see that gif of Christian jumping around with the title whilst his best friend (and 11 time world champion) Edge spurs him on, was this always the plan or did management suddenly decide to punk the poor dude? I was talking to my friend about this whole thing and he asked how can you watch it if they just end up giving the title to the guy who sells more merch? I wonder that myself. Never before have I lost so much faith in the WWE. I know I'm not the key demographic for the company, and if the kids buy his crap of course he's going to be on top. But this way? Horrible. Horrible for Christian and horrible for his fans.
His tweets pretty much confirm what the dirtsheets have been saying for years. He's a tool. Was he responsible for being booked over Christian 2 days after his win? No. But he is responsible for years of shoddy performances and promos.
.... his new facial hair's alright though.
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Post by steel on May 5, 2011 12:34:02 GMT -5
People seem to forget and blame the character/performer rather than the writer.
Orton seems like he has matured into a company man and team player. He knows he's over, with or without a belt.
Christian does deserve a solid title run without being a transitional champion and hopefully, his time will come. Either way, you can;t blame Orton.
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PenguinDeluxe
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on May 5, 2011 12:37:25 GMT -5
People seem to forget and blame the character/performer rather than the writer. Orton seems like he has matured into a company man and team player. He knows he's over, with or without a belt. Christian does deserve a solid title run without being a transitional champion and hopefully, his time will come. Either way, you can;t blame Orton. I thought this, until I saw his Twitter First comments are kinda douchey to be honest.
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 5, 2011 12:53:49 GMT -5
I was never mad at Orton for this and hopefully the rematch is a lot more....exciting.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 5, 2011 13:00:16 GMT -5
If you don't like my comments, then just ignore them. Kinda hard when every bastard topic has more often than not multiple pointless comments. First time I've commented, and looking at your karma, isn't gonna change. So whatever nob-rot. But it just seems like your a spammer/troll more often than not. Guess I won't feed ya anymore.Good, I wish other people would get off my case too. I hate Cena and Orton with a passion and this is the only place I can go to vent.
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Sonnen
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Post by Sonnen on May 5, 2011 13:01:56 GMT -5
Kinda hard when every bastard topic has more often than not multiple pointless comments. First time I've commented, and looking at your karma, isn't gonna change. So whatever nob-rot. But it just seems like your a spammer/troll more often than not. Guess I won't feed ya anymore.Good, I wish other people would get off my case too. I hate Cena and Orton with a passion and this is the only place I can go to vent. Translation: Everyone else is sick of listening to it as well.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 5, 2011 13:07:06 GMT -5
Good, I wish other people would get off my case too. I hate Cena and Orton with a passion and this is the only place I can go to vent. Translation: Everyone else is sick of listening to it as well. Translation: I DON'T CARE
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Infinite
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Post by Infinite on May 5, 2011 13:07:16 GMT -5
Kinda hard when every bastard topic has more often than not multiple pointless comments. First time I've commented, and looking at your karma, isn't gonna change. So whatever nob-rot. But it just seems like your a spammer/troll more often than not. Guess I won't feed ya anymore.Good, I wish other people would get off my case too. I hate Cena and Orton with a passion and this is the only place I can go to vent. Bit extreme. I mean, Orton has a reputation for being a bit of a douche (still not a reason to 'hate' him IMO), but Cena? really? I hope you're talking about hating their characters here, because Cena's just a guy living his dream, and you can at least see he has passion for the business, something that many superstars these days seem to lack. Not to mention all the good stuff he does. Hate is a very strong word man. Not something I'd just throw around.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 5, 2011 13:10:11 GMT -5
Good, I wish other people would get off my case too. I hate Cena and Orton with a passion and this is the only place I can go to vent. Bit extreme. I mean, Orton has a reputation for being a bit of a douche (still not a reason to 'hate' him IMO), but Cena? really? I hope you're talking about hating their characters here, because Cena's just a guy living his dream, and you can at least see he has passion for the business, something that many superstars these days seem to lack. Not to mention all the good stuff he does. I suppose, but Orton just gets under my skin and Cena is just really annoying. I guess hate is a strong word, but I really just cannot stand them.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 5, 2011 14:33:56 GMT -5
Christian wasn't moving fast enough? Were you even watching back in 2005? Christian was one of the most over guys in the WWE at the time. Vince was the one who moved him to SD and had him jobbing on Velocity. Christian was over like hell, and then some, and Vince was the once who decided to kill him off.
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Post by paynexkiller on May 5, 2011 14:42:46 GMT -5
First ever Heel turn over Twitter?
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Post by Edge618 on May 5, 2011 15:22:33 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with Orton. He is a top star, that's all he can really be. He gets really stale when he's not in the main event. I think him being champion on SD! will freshen him up. BUT I am still super pissed about christian. Like someone tweeted him, I'm not mad that Orton's champ, I'm mad that Christian didn't even get a run with it. As long as Christian gets to stay in a top spot and his title win isn't just going to be some fluke than it'll be ok.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 5, 2011 21:53:05 GMT -5
I really wanted Christian to have a decent title reign, but IMO, if Christian were to lose the belt, why couldn't it have been at Over the Limit? I wouldn't have a problem with it if the title change happened at the next PPV. I'm sure Christian will get another title reign. Might as well enjoy the title match tomorrow night and enjoy the reign of Orton: Smackdown edition.
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