jeffro2000
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Post by jeffro2000 on Jun 15, 2011 12:50:23 GMT -5
The match would be terrible, but the build up as stated would be amazing to guys who grew up with Hogan, and later Austin. I would enjoy it, but I would probably prefer Austin to do an angle with Miz or Punk since it could lead somewhere and further a career.
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Post by Oskanowski on Jun 15, 2011 13:06:13 GMT -5
Yeah... Let's just leave this one as a dream match. If it happened, in reality, Austin would destroy Hogan, but in a "wrestling classic" stand point, Hogan would be the almighty hero and win. IMO..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2011 13:30:07 GMT -5
Hogan can off. he wouldnt play ball in 2002 and hes practically immobile now after his back surgery.he was told he cant take bumps. whats he even talking about this for?
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Post by Richikane on Jun 15, 2011 13:43:58 GMT -5
Hogan needs to stop being such a selfish old dude and go sit down already. He doesn't need a match against every top guy of all time, and hes not entertaining in the ring anymore. The longer he has stayed in the worse his reputation has got. Rock vs Hogan was pushing it and should have been his last.
I used to be the biggest Hogan fan for so long, and now I just want him to stop embarrassing himself.
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Post by done on Jun 15, 2011 13:46:00 GMT -5
Hogan's just looking for attention!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 15, 2011 13:46:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Hulkster is too injured to wrestle. After the knee replacements and hip replacements and now this spinal fusion surgery, I just don't think he's ever going to be able to wrestle again. I think all of you saying him and calling him a scumbag are a little out of line......the only reason he would even consider wrestling Steve Austin is because it's something that fans have wanted to see. They wrestled in a 3-on-2 tag match back in 2002, but never got that epic 1-on-1 showdown everyone always wanted. Let's face it....if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, you wouldn't be watching wresting right now. Yeah, guys like Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Jericho......they all earned their success on their own and the talents of those men speak for themselves....but without Hulk Hogan doing what he did, I don't think a lot of fans would have been around to see it. It's not like Hulk Hogan is sitting there going "I need Steve Austin to job to me before I retire"..... Just like all the people who were going crazy for Sting during the 2-21-11 promos....people said Sting vs. Undertaker would be the best match ever and Sting was so awesome and this is a match we NEED TO SEE!!!....and as soon as it was clear he was going back to TNA, all those people jumped off his bandwagon and now it's back to "Sting is old and lazy and holding young talent down!". People want Sting in WWE but could care less about him in TNA? How does that happen? What kind of fans are those people? "I'll watch you if you come to WWE but won't support you in TNA".....it's insulting. I think it's time people stop insulting Hulk Hogan as much as they do....I think in most part people do it because he's in TNA. If he quit TNA and walked out on RAW next Monday Night, I'm positive that most of you would change your tunes immediately and be excited to see him. WWE is where Sting and Hulk Hogan belong....but I'll watch TNA and support them in TNA for as long as they are there...because that's what a real fan does.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 15, 2011 14:30:11 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Hulkster is too injured to wrestle. After the knee replacements and hip replacements and now this spinal fusion surgery, I just don't think he's ever going to be able to wrestle again. I think all of you saying him and calling him a scumbag are a little out of line......the only reason he would even consider wrestling Steve Austin is because it's something that fans have wanted to see. They wrestled in a 3-on-2 tag match back in 2002, but never got that epic 1-on-1 showdown everyone always wanted. Let's face it....if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, you wouldn't be watching wresting right now. Yeah, guys like Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Jericho......they all earned their success on their own and the talents of those men speak for themselves....but without Hulk Hogan doing what he did, I don't think a lot of fans would have been around to see it. It's not like Hulk Hogan is sitting there going "I need Steve Austin to job to me before I retire"..... Just like all the people who were going crazy for Sting during the 2-21-11 promos....people said Sting vs. Undertaker would be the best match ever and Sting was so awesome and this is a match we NEED TO SEE!!!....and as soon as it was clear he was going back to TNA, all those people jumped off his bandwagon and now it's back to "Sting is old and lazy and holding young talent down!". People want Sting in WWE but could care less about him in TNA? How does that happen? What kind of fans are those people? "I'll watch you if you come to WWE but won't support you in TNA".....it's insulting. I think it's time people stop insulting Hulk Hogan as much as they do....I think in most part people do it because he's in TNA. If he quit TNA and walked out on RAW next Monday Night, I'm positive that most of you would change your tunes immediately and be excited to see him. WWE is where Sting and Hulk Hogan belong....but I'll watch TNA and support them in TNA for as long as they are there...because that's what a real fan does. Two things that made no sense to me in this: 1. At what point are you, as a Hulk Hogan fan, going to recognize that Hulk Hogan brings a big portion of this criticism on himself. It's like Lebron James right now, just know when to shut the up. 2. Why, on any level, does Sting belong in WWE?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 15, 2011 14:46:49 GMT -5
1. I don't see how Hulk Hogan brings any criticism on himself. All he does is try and entertain the fans. He's not even wrestling for TNA, I don't see how he's embarrassing himself like some people say? Ric Flair, every time he's on TV, is the one who ends up bloody in his underwear.
All Hulk Hogan does is come out and cut a promo, of which he's still the best at doing of any wrestler who's active and on a wrestling/sports entertainment show on a weekly basis.
Hulk Hogan said he'd wrestle Steve Austin for the fans....not for himself, not to get over, he doesn't want to be Champion of any company.....please tell me where he deserves to be criticized for that?
2. Sting belongs in WWE because TNA is ridiculous. The crap that happened with Jeff Hardy and TNA letting him go to the ring drunk/high, TNA screwing the fans with that 40 second "main event"......Sting in TNA is like a man playing with boys. RVD, Hardy, Anderson...they aren't in Sting's league.
I know Sting is happy in TNA....but I really wish he'd come to WWE for a short run, get the career retrospective DVD we all want (because WWE owns all of his WCW footage) and go into the Hall of Fame.
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Post by K5 on Jun 15, 2011 14:47:29 GMT -5
Let's face it....if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, you wouldn't be watching wresting right now. Yeah, guys like Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Jericho......they all earned their success on their own and the talents of those men speak for themselves....but without Hulk Hogan doing what he did, I don't think a lot of fans would have been around to see it. this is wwe propaganda that simply is not true. did vince mcmahon, using hulk hogan as the absolute epitomy of his product and movement, alter the pro wrestling world forever when he stormed through the territories and bought the television rights? absolutely. would it have never happened if vince wasn't the man to do it (first)? absolutely not. my grandfather watched calgary wrestling for years, as did my dad, and as did i. wrestling existed long before the wwe, the sport was basically already developed to the degree it is now for the most part minus the entertainment/television aspects. in fact, one could go as far to say that vince did not do wrestling a favor whatsoever by whoring the concept to hollywood as he did. it overwhelmed the market, made long time fans turn away, and slowly became just another media machine regurgitation. ...you know what's best for sting, even moreso than sting..
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Post by K5 on Jun 15, 2011 14:50:47 GMT -5
1. I don't see how Hulk Hogan brings any criticism on himself. All he does is try and entertain the fans. He's not even wrestling for TNA, I don't see how he's embarrassing himself like some people say? Ric Flair, every time he's on TV, is the one who ends up bloody in his underwear. All Hulk Hogan does is come out and cut a promo, of which he's still the best at doing of any wrestler who's active and on a wrestling/sports entertainment show on a weekly basis. Hulk Hogan said he'd wrestle Steve Austin for the fans....not for himself, not to get over, he doesn't want to be Champion of any company.....please tell me where he deserves to be criticized for that? 2. Sting belongs in WWE because TNA is ridiculous. The crap that happened with Jeff Hardy and TNA letting him go to the ring drunk/high, TNA screwing the fans with that 40 second "main event"......Sting in TNA is like a man playing with boys. RVD, Hardy, Anderson...they aren't in Sting's league. I know Sting is happy in TNA....but I really wish he'd come to WWE for a short run, get the career retrospective DVD we all want (because WWE owns all of his WCW footage) and go into the Hall of Fame. apparently you're still taking the vitamins hogan has been serving for years, which is no good as they've been outdated for nearly a decade.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 15, 2011 14:56:23 GMT -5
You people need to realize one thing.....Hulk Hogan made wrestling, not once but TWICE.
Hulk Hogan was the man that Vince McMahon used to make wrestling popular. Hulk Hogan was the man who brought the kids into it and made it as socially acceptable as it was.
In the early 90's when America was in the Gulf War, Hulk Hogan, America and God were 3 things that all went hand in hand and he was like the symbol of this country. I wouldn't expect kids to know about that because they weren't there.
Then, as part of the nWo in WCW, Hulk Hogan changed wrestling again. If Hulk Hogan wasn't willing to take the chance and turn heel, what do you think pro wrestling would look like now? The whole Attitude ERA and everything edgy and controversial that WWF did during that time was a direct reaction to them trying to compete with what the nWo was doing over on WCW.
Remember when the nWo was so cool and their storyline was so reality based and cutting edge that people actually thought it was real? And then over on the WWF show they still have Doink the Clown, The Smoking Gunns and Henry and Phineas Godwinn the Pig Farmers and it was nothing but crap except for Shawn, Undertaker, Mankind and Bret.
Austin, The Rock, DX.....that all happened because Vince McMahon needed to compete with WCW because of what Hogan was doing in the new cool reality based story that the nWo was doing.
Hogan didn't have to turn heel....it was a huge chance he took. But after being the ultimate good guy and changing the business, Hogan changed the business again, and WCW and the nWo were the driving force between everything that became the WWF Attitude ERA. It was ironic that they backed Vince McMahon into a corner and forced him to go in a direction he didn't want to take his company and it actually ended up leading to WCW getting put out of business.
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Post by K5 on Jun 15, 2011 15:01:55 GMT -5
we all know the contributions that hulk hogan made to modernized professional wrestling in north america. we've learnt the lessons before. it's history now. let it go. he didn't 'make' wrestling. as i said, it existed long before him and very well could have been better off forming without him. it would still exist today rather he existed or not.
it's so weird that you went off on that little spiel about hogan's accomplishments. go to the classics board for that, it's not relevant here.
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Post by KrimV on Jun 15, 2011 15:03:17 GMT -5
^ Well said, man @lorenzo. I'm not gonna trash Hogan for talking about doing a dream match. Sure, the match itself wouldn't be a "MOTY" contender or anything, but then pure wrestling isn't really what WWE is about these days. It's about entertainment and Hogan vs Austin would be a lot of entertainment even if the match itself wasn't very good.
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Post by Razornuts on Jun 15, 2011 15:53:56 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan sucks and really always has. I wouldn't even like to see Hulk Hogan vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. What for? I don't see that as a dream match at all. Austin is on a whole other level than Hogan. Austin actually had in-ring talent.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Jun 15, 2011 15:55:26 GMT -5
we all know the contributions that hulk hogan made to modernized professional wrestling in north america. we've learnt the lessons before. it's history now. let it go. he didn't 'make' wrestling. as i said, it existed long before him and very well could have been better off forming without him. it would still exist today rather he existed or not. it's so weird that you went off on that little spiel about hogan's accomplishments. go to the classics board for that, it's not relevant here. How is it not relevant? This is a thread about Hogan with everybody trashing him. He was just explaining why the hate he receives is ridiculous with how much he has done.
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Post by Richikane on Jun 15, 2011 16:01:03 GMT -5
1. I don't see how Hulk Hogan brings any criticism on himself. All he does is try and entertain the fans. He's not even wrestling for TNA, I don't see how he's embarrassing himself like some people say? Ric Flair, every time he's on TV, is the one who ends up bloody in his underwear. All Hulk Hogan does is come out and cut a promo, of which he's still the best at doing of any wrestler who's active and on a wrestling/sports entertainment show on a weekly basis. Hulk Hogan said he'd wrestle Steve Austin for the fans....not for himself, not to get over, he doesn't want to be Champion of any company.....please tell me where he deserves to be criticized for that? 2. Sting belongs in WWE because TNA is ridiculous. The crap that happened with Jeff Hardy and TNA letting him go to the ring drunk/high, TNA screwing the fans with that 40 second "main event"......Sting in TNA is like a man playing with boys. RVD, Hardy, Anderson...they aren't in Sting's league. I know Sting is happy in TNA....but I really wish he'd come to WWE for a short run, get the career retrospective DVD we all want (because WWE owns all of his WCW footage) and go into the Hall of Fame. Just my opinion but I would hate to see Sting ever show up in WWE. I say that for two years. First, I agree that Sting deserves something better than TNA because TNA is a joke. BUT I respect Sting a whole lot because he has made such a name for himself without ever stepping foot in the WWE. He will be known as one of the all time greats without it. Also, I feel like Sting going to the WWE would be like Bret Hart going to WCW back in the day. He just wouldn't fit in right. The story lines would be awkward and it wouldn't play out in the amazing matches that we all think about. I don't think he would have fit 10 years ago. Sting is one of the few wrestlers who made such a name for himself that going to the other brand wouldn't play right.
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Post by J12 on Jun 15, 2011 16:05:44 GMT -5
I absolutely refuse to believe that Hogan would wrestle the match "for the fans". He'd do it for the payoff. Everything he's done in the world of professional wrestling for the last several years of his career has been for the payoff and nothing more.
He left wrestling, for a significant amount of time. It was only when he realized that he was going broke and had no source of income that he decided to make his big comeback and head to TNA.
I respect what Hulk Hogan's character did for the business, but Vince McMahon is just as, if not more responsible for that. As for respecting Hulk Hogan himself, absolutely not. He's a washed up old man with an ego the size of the moon. There's no room for his garbage.
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Post by threehgame on Jun 15, 2011 16:09:15 GMT -5
we all know the contributions that hulk hogan made to modernized professional wrestling in north america. we've learnt the lessons before. it's history now. let it go. he didn't 'make' wrestling. as i said, it existed long before him and very well could have been better off forming without him. it would still exist today rather he existed or not. it's so weird that you went off on that little spiel about hogan's accomplishments. go to the classics board for that, it's not relevant here. How is it not relevant? This is a thread about Hogan with everybody trashing him. He was just explaining why the hate he receives is ridiculous with how much he has done. No matter how much someone accomplishes, they should never be above criticism and reproach. Hogan still honestly believes he is the biggest draw in wrestling. I find it ironic that Hogan runs down how the WWE has been doing things the past few years and now he wants back in. I guess the total lack of a ratings boost in TNA with him there has Hogan wanting to leave. Before he is even out the door he is trying to make plans for a WWE comeback. In one interview Hogan managed to make it seem like he still believes his hype form the 80's, that he wants to wrestle again, that he believes if Austin comes back he would want to wrestle Hogan after the problems they had almost a decade ago, and lastly due to how he was pitching himself to WWE, Hogan must feel like being in TNA is not going to make him enough money.
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Post by rustywio123 on Jun 15, 2011 17:21:58 GMT -5
Hogan vs Austin would be HUGE!!!! Arguably the two biggest names in the history of the WWE, one on one, I would LOVE to see it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2011 17:28:19 GMT -5
off Hogan
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