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Post by Mr. Orange on Jun 20, 2011 22:16:57 GMT -5
Good: Punk, Triple Threat
Bad: Henry cheating in an arm wrestling contest when he's the "World Strongest Man", Bourne getting killed for no reason, Supermen Cena & Orton, no Ryder, Vickie, Kelly and well everything.
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Post by J12 on Jun 20, 2011 22:21:46 GMT -5
After more or less hating Capitol Punishment last night, I came into Raw pretty pessimistic. I ended up being pleasantly surprised.
The night started off stronger than I ever could have hoped, with CM Punk working his usual magic on the mic. This man is a perfectionist at his craft and anyone who can't see that he's one of the most valuable assets in the company is either biased or blind to the facts.
Another great moment with Kelly Kelly winning the Diva's Championship. As many of you know, I've been a supporter of Kelly for quite some time now and I'm glad they're giving her a shot with the belt. She deserves it. Not to mention, I can't stand the Bellas.
Crowd was great tonight, especially in comparison to the DC audience that made a below average show last night even worse by sitting on their hands. Baltimore was alive, vibrant, and often pretty funny too.
Part of me wanted to hate the Henry/Kane arm wrestling match, but then I realized that by choosing it, we had been saved from seeing the two of them work an actual match. I like what is being done with Mark Henry and I'm interested to see where this leads.
The triple threat match was pretty damn awesome. In fact, I thought it was better than anything we saw last night at Capitol Punishment, Rey/Punk included. Excellent pace, even better result.
Punk's announcement was of course, bittersweet. I think we all saw this coming but part of me is glad they're choosing to work it into a storyline.
Truth/Christian/Miz promo was fun. Unfortunately, it made all three look like a bit of a joke (a sentiment that wasn't helped with the night's main event) but it suited their characters and served its purpose. Wondering what is going to happen with The Miz and R-Truth now.
Solid match between Ziggler/Kofi. Nothing special, but fair. Hated the idea of a fall happening during the commercial break, and as a result, I sort of lost interest in the rest.
The dance segment was horrible, and would have been unforgivable had I not found the rest of the show so entertaining.
Six man tag was decent. Nice to see Christian get the pin over Orton even if it only led to the usual win from Cena. It's becoming increasingly obvious that WWE is terrified of making Cena look in peril, even for just a moment.
Overall, far better than Capitol Punishment and time much better spent.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 20, 2011 22:24:48 GMT -5
Terrible, terrible show overall.
The good: Punk on the mic, Truth on the mic, the Kofi-Dolph match.
The bad: Kelly Kelly with any kind of belt is a joke, Kofi not winning back the US belt, Bryan-Rhodes given only a few minutes, and the show ending with the only two guys who seem to matter to WWE.
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Post by Barrett on Jun 21, 2011 0:12:16 GMT -5
I'm just gonna C&P my comment from the Sin Cara votes thread:
I was under the impression that a large portion of the voting audience must have simply decided to go against what WWE probably wanted them to do. I know that's an unlikely reasoning, but so many of the winners seemed weird to me. (Many of the voting options were pretty weird too. For example, since when is there a No Countout Match? Why would fans vote for the main event to be a standard match? Why was No DQ listed as an option for the triple threat when triple threats are already No DQ by default? What the hell were the plans for the Paper Bag Match?)
-WWE probably assumed Sin Cara would face Bourne; fans choose Mason Ryan -WWE probably assumed the fans wouldn't want Vickie anywhere near ringside; fans choose for 2/3 falls -WWE probably assumed that fans would go for either Bodyslam Challenge or Over the Top Rope Challenge; fans went with Arm Wrestling Contest -WWE probably assumed fans would vote for Booker to compete against Vickie since he's known for his spinarooni and since he'd be a face going against the heel; fans voted for Michael Cole in what was probably the first ever heel vs. heel dance off
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Post by Richikane on Jun 21, 2011 1:23:38 GMT -5
I'm just gonna C&P my comment from the Sin Cara votes thread: I was under the impression that a large portion of the voting audience must have simply decided to go against what WWE probably wanted them to do. I know that's an unlikely reasoning, but so many of the winners seemed weird to me. (Many of the voting options were pretty weird too. For example, since when is there a No Countout Match? Why would fans vote for the main event to be a standard match? Why was No DQ listed as an option for the triple threat when triple threats are already No DQ by default? What the hell were the plans for the Paper Bag Match?) -WWE probably assumed Sin Cara would face Bourne; fans choose Mason Ryan -WWE probably assumed the fans wouldn't want Vickie anywhere near ringside; fans choose for 2/3 falls -WWE probably assumed that fans would go for either Bodyslam Challenge or Over the Top Rope Challenge; fans went with Arm Wrestling Contest -WWE probably assumed fans would vote for Booker to compete against Vickie since he's known for his spinarooni and since he'd be a face going against the heel; fans voted for Michael Cole in what was probably the first ever heel vs. heel dance off I think the whole thing was fake from the start and they picked things that the fans wouldn't expect. I thought the whole night was a mess for the most part. It had huge potential but I feel let down. Still though, I won't hate on it too hard, it did have some good moments. The main event 6 man elimination was good. Dolph vs Kofi in 2 of 3 falls had huge potential, just a lame ending CM Punks match was really well done and had some great moments Kelly getting the title is a good call, shes not bad Mark Henry hasn't been entertaining since sexual chocolate.... Rhodes vs Brian was better than the tag matches they've been having Bournes match was ridiculous, and Mason made everything really awkward. It was easily the worst Bourne match I've watched. And he's one of my favorite superstars.
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Post by N1SF on Jun 21, 2011 9:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by J12 on Jun 21, 2011 9:35:00 GMT -5
This was still one of my favorite moments of the night, I laughed for a solid minute when he said it, then proceeded to do it.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jun 21, 2011 10:39:50 GMT -5
Good Raw, really enjoyed it.
Punk made it memorable, with the snow angel and kicking the steps then walking with a hurt foot had me in stitches.
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Post by Brad on Jun 21, 2011 12:48:40 GMT -5
Some of you guys are impossible to please. It amazes me. I think a lot of you are only happy when you have something to complain about. I thought the show was great.
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Post by wabarrett on Jun 21, 2011 12:50:28 GMT -5
Some of you guys are impossible to please. It amazes me. I think a lot of you are only happy when you have something to complain about. I thought the show was great. It was definitely a good show. There was just, as there always are with these big 3-hour themed nights, crap scattered throughout.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jun 21, 2011 13:15:18 GMT -5
Some of you guys are impossible to please. It amazes me. I think a lot of you are only happy when you have something to complain about. I thought the show was great. Thanks for that, loyal TNA viewer. If a show was entertaining to someone, they would say so. I hate TNA, but there most-recent Impact was pretty watchable. I love SmackDown and have for a month. Superstars is fun to watch. NXT is the worst show in WWE history, and RAW, it varies from mediocre-great every week. I thought Stone Cold's RAW the week before All-Stars Night was one of the greatest RAWs of the year, so it's not really a case of most, at least, just disliking something to dislike something.
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Post by Adam235 on Jun 22, 2011 17:29:15 GMT -5
The show was good this week but not great. Sucks about the screw up with Sin Cara voted/not voted to face Bourne. Punk was great, Kelly Kelly winning the title was a surprise but knew it would happen soon enough, and Kofi vs Dolph was done well. Don't mind Dolph getting DQ'd and still keeping the belt. Could have done without Cole/Vickie dance off and Henry/Kane arm wrestling.. The 6 man tag main event was ok.. Can't wait to see HBK next week!
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