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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 20:40:55 GMT -5
I sorta understand So a good nature for Abra would be +attack -Sp Attack? NO lmao. You also have to remember what their base stats are. Abra has a base 20 attack stat and base 85 special attack (i think) So training it in attack would be kinda pointless because even with max EV investment it would still be pretty bad in the end. Usually you want to train what they are good at.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 20:42:26 GMT -5
I sorta understand So a good nature for Abra would be +attack -Sp Attack? NO lmao. You also have to remember what their base stats are. Abra has a base 20 attack stat and base 85 special attack (i think) So training it in attack would be kinda pointless because even with max EV investment it would still be pretty bad in the end. Usually you want to train what they are good at. Then why is the best nature for a Charizard +speed?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 20:51:11 GMT -5
NO lmao. You also have to remember what their base stats are. Abra has a base 20 attack stat and base 85 special attack (i think) So training it in attack would be kinda pointless because even with max EV investment it would still be pretty bad in the end. Usually you want to train what they are good at. Then why is the best nature for a Charizard +speed? Charizards base stats are 78HP 84ATK 78DEF 109SPATK 85SPDEF 100SPEED With a + speed nature and 252 speed EVs, Charizard can reach up to 328 Speed at level 100. With a neutral nature and 252 speed EVs he can reach up to 299. So thats a 29 point difference. Speed is important in competative gameplay as outspeeding certain pokemon can be the difference between winning and losing. Plus base 100 speed is pretty nice so training it in speed is good. Since its Special attack is much higher than its attack, most people train it in Special attack. At 252 EVs and a + SpAtk nature, he can reach 348 Special attack At 252 EVs and a + Atk nature, he would only reach 293 attack With good attacking stats and good speed, Charizard is a great sweeper, but he is a better Special Sweeper than Physical.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 20:55:00 GMT -5
It also depends what moves you want, like if really like his physical moves better, then its ok to make him a physical sweeper since its attack stat isnt that bad, but most of the time it makes more sense using the better stat
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Post by King Silva on Jul 5, 2011 20:59:39 GMT -5
Yeah Charizard should be max Speed imo but also put 252 Sp Att EVs in him since he needs to be as speedy and strong as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:00:24 GMT -5
Heres some interesting info.
Alakazam has these base stats HP ATK DEF SPATK SPDEF SPEED 55 50 45 135 85 120
Considering its Special attack stat is almost triple its Attack stat, even EV training it in Attack and using a + Attack nature would only give it 218, compared to the 405 you would get from training in Special Attack. Huge difference right? For Alakazam I would recommend 252 Speed EVs and 252 Special Attack
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:01:56 GMT -5
Yeah Charizard should be max Speed imo but also put 252 Sp Att EVs in him since he needs to be as speedy and strong as possible. Mines a + Special Attack nature, which is a shame but still nice because at level 100 it will have around 348 Special attack and 299 Speed. Which still outspeeds alot.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 21:04:49 GMT -5
Then why is the best nature for a Charizard +speed? Charizards base stats are 78HP 84ATK 78DEF 109SPATK 85SPDEF 100SPEED With a + speed nature and 252 speed EVs, Charizard can reach up to 328 Speed at level 100. With a neutral nature and 252 speed EVs he can reach up to 299. So thats a 29 point difference. Speed is important in competative gameplay as outspeeding certain pokemon can be the difference between winning and losing. Plus base 100 speed is pretty nice so training it in speed is good. Since its Special attack is much higher than its attack, most people train it in Special attack. At 252 EVs and a + SpAtk nature, he can reach 348 Special attack At 252 EVs and a + Atk nature, he would only reach 293 attack With good attacking stats and good speed, Charizard is a great sweeper, but he is a better Special Sweeper than Physical. Right, I understood basically none of that So here's a gif of Pikachu and Togepi dancing...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:06:35 GMT -5
Charizards base stats are 78HP 84ATK 78DEF 109SPATK 85SPDEF 100SPEED With a + speed nature and 252 speed EVs, Charizard can reach up to 328 Speed at level 100. With a neutral nature and 252 speed EVs he can reach up to 299. So thats a 29 point difference. Speed is important in competative gameplay as outspeeding certain pokemon can be the difference between winning and losing. Plus base 100 speed is pretty nice so training it in speed is good. Since its Special attack is much higher than its attack, most people train it in Special attack. At 252 EVs and a + SpAtk nature, he can reach 348 Special attack At 252 EVs and a + Atk nature, he would only reach 293 attack With good attacking stats and good speed, Charizard is a great sweeper, but he is a better Special Sweeper than Physical. Right, I understood basically none of that So here's a gif of Pikachu and Togepi dancing... Posting random Pokemon gifs is my thing Basically, dont train your Abra in attack. It will suck. Alot. Understand?
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 21:08:56 GMT -5
Right, I understood basically none of that So here's a gif of Pikachu and Togepi dancing... Posting random Pokemon gifs is my thing Basically, dont train your Abra in attack. It will suck. Alot. Understand? It is? Damn *clicks fingers* So train it in Spk Atk then?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:11:46 GMT -5
Posting random Pokemon gifs is my thing Basically, dont train your Abra in attack. It will suck. Alot. Understand? It is? Damn *clicks fingers* So train it in Spk Atk then? Yes and speed
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 21:17:25 GMT -5
It is? Damn *clicks fingers* So train it in Spk Atk then? Yes and speed So which nature +? Speed or Spk Atk?
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Post by M on Jul 5, 2011 21:17:48 GMT -5
I had no idea what you guys just said.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 21:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:21:51 GMT -5
Yes and speed So which nature +? Speed or Spk Atk? Personal preference really. Both are really high stats to begin with so even without a + nature you should outspeed alot. Basically, without a + nature you would be as fast as 105 base speed stat pokemon Pokemon with a + nature. explaining this is
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:22:15 GMT -5
I had no idea what you guys just said.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:22:46 GMT -5
M - Saw that episode today
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Post by King Silva on Jul 5, 2011 21:22:48 GMT -5
LOL at all the gifs. I just evolved my Elektrick with a Thunderstone into Eelektross. Eelektross will be my next electric type pokemon on my soon to be new Black # 2 team. It is level 50 btw.
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Post by M on Jul 5, 2011 21:24:32 GMT -5
Awwww, Old Pikachu looks so fat. :3
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 5, 2011 21:25:20 GMT -5
So which nature +? Speed or Spk Atk? Personal preference really. Both are really high stats to begin with so even without a + nature you should outspeed alot. Basically, without a + nature you would be as fast as 105 base speed stat pokemon Pokemon with a + nature. explaining this is This is a nice alternative
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