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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 27, 2011 17:02:39 GMT -5
I'm pretty stumped about what the cause could be, after reading Dana White's reaction. Telling Nate to "man up" and tell people why he failed his medicals isn't typical language. If it were an STD or staph, or something like that, I wouldn't expect Dana to be so pissed off, and I definitely wouldn't expect the accusatory "tell everyone what you did" tone. If it were staph, he probably wouldn't have been fired, much less publicly shamed. If it were a contagious STD or something, I could see the UFC releasing him for safety reasons, but I wouldn't expect them to publicly shame him into sharing that personal info with the world. Steroids or other banned substances seems like the easy answer, but my problem there is why did the commission know about it early and expect him to correct the problem before the fight? Why wouldn't they have immediately just scrapped the fight, since it's a banned substance? Or maybe it was a banned substance that he talked his way out of punishment for the first test (steroid for recovery from illness with prescription, perhaps), and showed up with an even larger dose for a subsequent test? Weird situation. But it takes 2-4 weeks for blood results. There's no way they would of already known. Diaretic? Maybe an injury that was never healed, but they tought it would. A concussion he had but never got the clearance he was supposed to before he showed up to the weigh ins. They said they already knew about this "issue" for quite some time and gave Nate a lot of time to get it "fixed".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 19:52:35 GMT -5
Dana White: "Nate Marquardt's gonna have to man up and come out and tell the world why he didn't pass his medicals." "When he does that I think everybody is going to understand why he was cut from the UFC."
"I think it's pretty clear to the fans and everybody else that I'm pretty disgusted with Nate Marquardt. He's been cut from the UFC, he won't fight in the UFC ever again." "Bottom line is, what Nate Marquardt's thing is, it's bad enough to be cut from the UFC."Hmmmm... I'm trying to work out what it could be(?) Egads...Dana's pissed beyond words...now I'm extra curious as to what Nate's done...
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Post by ZT on Jun 27, 2011 21:35:42 GMT -5
The PA commission has confirmed that it was NOT a failed drug test. It was something else.
From MMAfighting.com:
Honestly, between this info and the way Dana expressed that Nate would have to "man up" and tell everyone why he failed his medicals, I'm inclined to believe the idea going around that it was a contagious STD.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jun 27, 2011 23:15:49 GMT -5
I'm very interested to find out exactly what the reason was. I hope we all find out soon.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 28, 2011 4:36:24 GMT -5
I don't think it's a blood/STD thing because the PSAC representative said that it's something he could fix and that they would re-activate him immediately... There's really no fixing blood diseases.
My theory is that he was taking some medication/shots/whatever that are banned unless there is a doctor's note. He probably called and told the PSAC that he was on these things and they told him that he needed to either get off them for the fight or get a doctor's note.
He probably showed up without the note and they suspended him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 6:05:41 GMT -5
Wow, I'm really interested to see what he did. "Man up and tell everyone" isn't a usual phrase we hear from Dana. I'm sad to see Marquardt go, as I was looking forward to the Story fight, and Story fell victim to lay n pray in his replacement fight. This whole situation was pretty screwed up. Not a fan of what's going on here, but maybe we'll get some answers today.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 28, 2011 6:24:03 GMT -5
1pm ET on MMAfighting.com, Nate will be addressing the public on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani. I'm sure he'll say something like "I didn't pass medicals".
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jun 28, 2011 9:58:32 GMT -5
1pm ET on MMAfighting.com, Nate will be addressing the public on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani. I'm sure he'll say something like "I didn't pass medicals". If he doesn't "man up" and tell everyone the reason(s) why he got released, do you think Dana will??
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Post by sean™ on Jun 28, 2011 10:42:16 GMT -5
He legally can't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 12:20:36 GMT -5
high testosterone? But it ended up being within range on fight day? Crap call on Dana's part. That shouldn't have earned Nate a pink slip.
So, to recap: Nate and Chael did the same thing, except Nate came in with a doctor's note. So, we get to keep Chael (4-4 UFC) around while Nate (10-4 UFC) gets released. Sweet Dana
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Post by sean™ on Jun 28, 2011 13:52:41 GMT -5
high testosterone? But it ended up being within range on fight day? Crap call on Dana's part. That shouldn't have earned Nate a pink slip. So, to recap: Nate and Chael did the same thing, except Nate came in with a doctor's note. So, we get to keep Chael (4-4 UFC) around while Nate (10-4 UFC) gets released. Sweet Dana Chael wasn't given notice before hand that there was an issue. Nate was. The fact that Nate knew it was going to be an issue before hand, had the ability to submit a new report to fix the issue, and did nothing. Also, Nate had an entire fight night and full day of Spike TV programming surrounding him as the main attraction. And the day before the event, due to an issue that he was well aware of, he can't actually fight.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 28, 2011 17:26:47 GMT -5
Nate was given 7-8 weeks notice about the issue, and did not change it. Chael was not given any information on what would happen if he had the same issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2011 6:22:42 GMT -5
Okay, good point. It sucks that he got released though. I was really looking forward to the Story fight. Hopefully he'll start fighting again soon.
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