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Post by done on Jul 25, 2011 22:39:43 GMT -5
TNA is no more...
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Post by King of Kings on Jul 25, 2011 22:39:50 GMT -5
who cares what music punk had, it was an awesome moment Think about it though. All he had to do was come out to his old theme and stand there and raise the belt...and it has the wrestling world buzzing.
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Post by Vitamin Z on Jul 25, 2011 22:40:15 GMT -5
Personally I felt let down by tonights episode. Aside from R-Truth and CM Punk of course. They brought in Triple H to give it a new feeling. It started with Rey winning the title and it ended with Cena winning the title. I know it's just the first week and anything can happen, but they shouldn't have started it like this imo.
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Post by slappy on Jul 25, 2011 22:40:34 GMT -5
who cares what music punk had, it was an awesome moment Think about it though. All he had to do was come out to his old theme and stand there and raise the belt...and it has the wrestling world buzzing. Yeah because what just happened doesn't have everyone talking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 22:40:46 GMT -5
The only thing I think would have been better is to wait for Punk to return at SummerSlam after a four way main event. They could have had the match tonight have a screwy finish where Miz attacks Cena and Rey and then ADR tries to cash in but Miz decks him too, before he as a chance to cash in. Then they build up Rey defending against Cena, Miz, and Del Rio for SummerSlam. Cena wins at SummerSlam and then Punk makes the return he made tonight to close the show.
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Post by done on Jul 25, 2011 22:40:49 GMT -5
I really want that tee, I hope I can try and get it by the start of next month.
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Post by King of Kings on Jul 25, 2011 22:42:10 GMT -5
Think about it though. All he had to do was come out to his old theme and stand there and raise the belt...and it has the wrestling world buzzing. Yeah because what just happened doesn't have everyone talking. ...it does though? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...but this thread alone is evidence of people talking about it. Even though most people on here are getting their panties in a bunch and bitching about how much they hate it...
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 25, 2011 22:42:41 GMT -5
Raw has been so amazing and unpredictable again it feels like the late 90's again. Its just been awesome, each week for the past month or so has been something shocking. Wrestling is fun again.
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Post by slappy on Jul 25, 2011 22:42:54 GMT -5
Yeah because what just happened doesn't have everyone talking. ...it does though? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...but this thread alone is evidence of people talking about it. Even though most people on here are getting their panties in a bunch and bitching about how much they hate it... I thought you meant he should have just came out and raised the belt on the stage not get in the ring with Cena, my apologies.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 25, 2011 22:42:59 GMT -5
The biggest problem here is that the title tournament was the wrong way to go. The way the whole thing was handled was just piss poor and I think it killed a lot of people's interest. There was no context to base it off of last week. Why was it happening? They never really bothered to mention because they couldn't mention "CM Punk". Why were they attempting to crown a new champion when someone walked out with the belt the night prior? Wasn't the whole point to walk out? Why, after advertising a new WWE Champion to be crowned last week, did you pull the plug and move it to next week? Vince being relieved of his duties was enough to bring your viewers back next week, the title tournament was secondary. Why were the superstars excited to compete for an illegitimate title? The word "vacated" was never once mentioned until JR said it tonight, in what I presume to be just a mistake on his part. That was obviously a calculated decision. Saying the title was vacated would have answered nearly every question, but they didn't. Why bother to finish the tournament if you were just going to give the belt back to Cena? If Cena was the win the Championship, Triple H should have apologized for Vince's decision to set up the tournament, and turned the match between Mysterio and Miz into a triple threat with John Cena. I understand the endgame, but it just approached awkwardly, like creative was walking on eggshells with the new found freedom or allowance to create compelling stories. Everything about the last couple of weeks has just been strange, so I can understand why people are feeling a little underwhelmed. For what it's worth, and in this cesspool of stupidity it's not worth much, but I agree with you. I use the word continuity when I talk about TNA, primarily because they have none 9 times out of 10, but I think we have seen a lack of continuity with this whole title thing. Not with Punk, because I think Punk is the one thing keeping it all together, but it feels like they didn't know what they wanted to do in order to get the belt back on Cena and it created sort of the weirdness that played out tonight.
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Post by Word™ on Jul 25, 2011 22:43:25 GMT -5
CM Punk will never become another one of "those guys" again.. I can promise you that..
As far as the main event goes.. Rey Mysterio vs. John Cena was one of the better matches RAW has had in a long, long time..
My only beef.. Mysterio should have kept the title longer.. Punk should have been off TV longer..
That's all.
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Post by King of Kings on Jul 25, 2011 22:43:37 GMT -5
...it does though? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...but this thread alone is evidence of people talking about it. Even though most people on here are getting their panties in a bunch and bitching about how much they hate it... I thought you meant he should have just came out and raised the belt on the stage not get in the ring with Cena, my apologies. Oh haha, no worries.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 22:43:48 GMT -5
It amazes me how the likes of "Roosta from Broosta" or Kentonbomb watch Raw week after week, then come on here and bitch about every single thing. If it's so bad, Why continue watching the show? Seriously, stop bitching about it every week, and don't watch the damn show. I don't come into this thread every week. Infact, I don't even come on to this forum nowadays. I enjoyed the angle up until this week, I mean jesus christ, can't somebody give a negative opinion?
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Post by machoking on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:12 GMT -5
Ive seriously not listened to Cult of Personality since like 1996...Ive had it on loop for like 15 minutes now. Damn you Punk!
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:24 GMT -5
This is literally THE WORST PLACE to discuss wrestling. I mean it. This thread alone is full of so much pointless complaining, bass ackwards logic, and obnoxiousness that it makes me want to punch my computer screen. Reminds me why I rarely post here anymore. No its not, go to caws.ws Equal at best.
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Post by slappy on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:43 GMT -5
The biggest problem here is that the title tournament was the wrong way to go. The way the whole thing was handled was just piss poor and I think it killed a lot of people's interest. There was no context to base it off of last week. Why was it happening? They never really bothered to mention because they couldn't mention "CM Punk". Why were they attempting to crown a new champion when someone walked out with the belt the night prior? Wasn't the whole point to walk out? Why, after advertising a new WWE Champion to be crowned last week, did you pull the plug and move it to next week? Vince being relieved of his duties was enough to bring your viewers back next week, the title tournament was secondary. Why were the superstars excited to compete for an illegitimate title? The word "vacated" was never once mentioned until JR said it tonight, in what I presume to be just a mistake on his part. That was obviously a calculated decision. Saying the title was vacated would have answered nearly every question, but they didn't. Why bother to finish the tournament if you were just going to give the belt back to Cena? If Cena was the win the Championship, Triple H should have apologized for Vince's decision to set up the tournament, and turned the match between Mysterio and Miz into a triple threat with John Cena. I understand the endgame, but it just approached awkwardly, like creative was walking on eggshells with the new found freedom or allowance to create compelling stories. Everything about the last couple of weeks has just been strange, so I can understand why people are feeling a little underwhelmed. For what it's worth, and in this cesspool of stupidity it's not worth much, but I agree with you. I use the word continuity when I talk about TNA, primarily because they have none 9 times out of 10, but I think we have seen a lack of continuity with this whole title thing. Not with Punk, because I think Punk is the one thing keeping it all together, but it feels like they didn't know what they wanted to do in order to get the belt back on Cena and it created sort of the weirdness that played out tonight. They couldn't have put Cena in the tournament because Cena was supposed to get fired. Would look pretty bad if he made it to the finals and ended up fired. They had to go without Cena in the tournament.
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Post by J12 on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:45 GMT -5
The only thing I think would have been better is to wait for Punk to return at SummerSlam after a four way main event. They could have had the match tonight have a screwy finish where Miz attacks Cena and Rey and then ADR tries to cash in but Miz decks him too, before he as a chance to cash in. Then they build up Rey defending against Cena, Miz, and Del Rio for SummerSlam. Cena wins at SummerSlam and then Punk makes the return he made tonight to close the show. But they can't sell Pay-Per-Views that way. The endgame of any given episode of WWE is to sell the Pay-Per-View. Let's be honest, aside from the recent stuff with Punk, WWE does a pretty miserable job at that, but that's still beside the point. By having Punk return on Pay-Per-View, you alienate the huge segment of your audience that didn't order the show. There's no way to tease it without giving it away, so you can't generate buys that way. The only other thing it could possibly do is make people feel like the next month's Pay-Per-View is must-see, but even that is a long shot. Punk (or whoever else) is only going to return once, and they're looking for the profit and results in the here and now, not a month to two months from now.
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Post by noir on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:46 GMT -5
lol at all the 'stop complaining you guyz' responses. This is the internet, and this is a site with lots of 15 year old keyboard warriors. But you, you already know that. Truth be told, WWE have pulled enough crap in terms of booking/storyline direction over the past few years that there's no surprise people are cynical about the product.
Tonight was a total blast for me, start to finish. I like Rey and think he deserves gold, Cole/Ryder was funny, Ziggler/Bourne was really solid, I marked for the JR return, and Cena/Rey was a great main event. absolutely great. Of course, I was pissed of, like many, with that Cena win but honestly, it wouldn't have surprised me if this week's episode was shut right there. Thankfully, Punk's return showed that there was more fuel in the tank still (Is it weird that I marked out more for his old theme than Punk himself coming out?! lol). Great RAW. Yet again, weirdly, they have made next week's episode must see!
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Post by PrideFcF on Jul 25, 2011 22:45:01 GMT -5
Yeah. You may as well rename the RAW Thread "Bitchfest '11" RAW was awesome haha. I wish I was just talking about this thread. It's this entire board. I come here every few days hoping to find some semi intelligent discussion and get disappointed every time. The only thing keeping me from deleting my account is the MMA board (because Sherdog sucks) and Wrestling Games board. You better not leave. We never even speak, but I browse a lot like yourself. You're one of the very few people that posts worthwhile opinions.
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Post by slappy on Jul 25, 2011 22:45:37 GMT -5
It amazes me how the likes of "Roosta from Broosta" or Kentonbomb watch Raw week after week, then come on here and bitch about every single thing. If it's so bad, Why continue watching the show? Seriously, stop bitching about it every week, and don't watch the damn show. I don't come into this thread every week. Infact, I don't even come on to this forum nowadays. I enjoyed the angle up until this week, I mean jesus christ, can't somebody give a negative opinion? Negative opinions are fine when they aren't completely stupid/baseless or said just to troll like you and Roosta do.
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