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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 22:55:53 GMT -5
Paterno stood no chance regardless man. By doing what he did, he got fired. Had he reported it to the cops, he would have been fired because he was a whistleblower. Lose lose. Do I agree with the path he chose? Not one bit. But the fact remains that he was screwed regardless.
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Post by rey619mysterio on Nov 9, 2011 23:00:16 GMT -5
Paterno stood no chance regardless man. By doing what he did, he got fired. Had he reported it to the cops, he would have been fired because he was a whistleblower. Lose lose. Do I agree with the path he chose? Not one bit. But the fact remains that he was screwed regardless. He was put in a bad position, no doubt. He probably would've gotten fired either way, but I personally think that putting a stop to that disgusting stuff is far more important than a coaching job.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Nov 9, 2011 23:00:26 GMT -5
why would joe pa be fired for being a whistleblower?
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Post by MC2 on Nov 9, 2011 23:04:41 GMT -5
People need to shut up with the "pedophile enabler" crap. He was told something, reported it to his superiors, the only other thing he could have done is tell the police, which the witness should have done.
It's not like he held down the children while Sandusky did....that, he was just the head coach and was unfortunately caught in the crossfire.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:07:39 GMT -5
why would joe pa be fired for being a whistleblower? A whistleblower is someone who, instead of going to administration, goes straight to the general public or to law enforcement about an alleged illegal action. Had Paterno gone straight to the police, he would have been fired. He would have saved the kids for sure, but if you try and tell me that administration wouldn't have fired him for an "undisclosed reason" because he alerted the authorities which brought scandal to the school...you're lying to yourself Bri.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 9, 2011 23:11:00 GMT -5
No sympathy, you call the cops, not your boss. Clean house, all of em. What a disgrace anyone standing up for Penn State or Paterno.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Nov 9, 2011 23:13:56 GMT -5
why would joe pa be fired for being a whistleblower? A whistleblower is someone who, instead of going to administration, goes straight to the general public or to law enforcement about an alleged illegal action. Had Paterno gone straight to the police, he would have been fired. He would have saved the kids for sure, but if you try and tell me that administration wouldn't have fired him for an "undisclosed reason" because he alerted the authorities which brought scandal to the school...you're lying to yourself Bri. i think the backlash from firing joe pa for whistleblowing would have been worse than the scandal. so i still don't see them firing him.
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Post by Adam on Nov 9, 2011 23:16:47 GMT -5
He wasn't involved, and he reported it like he was supposed. But somehow people think he's responsible for everyone in the PSU organization. They needed a reason to get rid of Paterno and they found it. Congrats.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 23:17:06 GMT -5
People need to shut up with the "pedophile enabler" crap. He was told something, reported it to his superiors, the only other thing he could have done is tell the police, which the witness should have done. It's not like he held down the children while Sandusky did....that, he was just the head coach and was unfortunately caught in the crossfire. Paterno's a scumbug, the assistant testified in court that Paterno told him to not go to the police, only the superiors.
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Post by Jamal on Nov 9, 2011 23:20:33 GMT -5
Anyone else a little stunned that McQueary is being looked at as more innocent that Joe Pa is being viewed as? McQueary saw the damn thing himself. From all the stuff I've heard on radio/ESPN, he is getting destroyed as well.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:21:30 GMT -5
Yes it would have. Hell, look at what's going on right now. Happy Valley's rioting, and living about two minutes from one of the biggest branch campuses (obviously not as big of a riot but still). But you know, I really don't think administration would have cared regardless if Paterno had become the hero had he called the cops or not.
But this isn't all about football. Paterno was fired because he was viewed as guilty by association. As I stated, morally yeah...it was not good of Paterno to not go to the authorities. But from a legal standpoint, he did nothing illegal. Morally, yea. Legal, no.
And I love how Paterno's being made out to be the biggest villain in all of this. F*cking no one's even mentioning McQuery, and freaking Sandusky's name's barely being brought up. Ridiculous.
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Post by MC2 on Nov 9, 2011 23:23:45 GMT -5
People need to shut up with the "pedophile enabler" crap. He was told something, reported it to his superiors, the only other thing he could have done is tell the police, which the witness should have done. It's not like he held down the children while Sandusky did....that, he was just the head coach and was unfortunately caught in the crossfire. Paterno's a scumbug, the assistant testified in court that Paterno told him to not go to the police, only the superiors. He probably didn't want to bring bad publicity to the school, while a terrible decision, a pretty loyal thing to do. I do understand that his loyalty towards the school is the most impertinent thing right now.
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Post by BOOM! #WDE on Nov 9, 2011 23:25:05 GMT -5
Damn you ESPN! I was watching Miami (OH) and Temple!!!
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:25:07 GMT -5
He wasn't involved, and he reported it like he was supposed. But somehow people think he's responsible for everyone in the PSU organization. They needed a reason to get rid of Paterno and they found it. Congrats. I don't think anyone could have said it any better. Like I keep saying. Morally, yes. Legal, no.
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Post by Jamal on Nov 9, 2011 23:25:47 GMT -5
No sympathy, you call the cops, not your boss. Clean house, all of em. What a disgrace anyone standing up for Penn State or Paterno. Exactly my feelings.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 9, 2011 23:27:45 GMT -5
He wasn't involved, and he reported it like he was supposed. But somehow people think he's responsible for everyone in the PSU organization. They needed a reason to get rid of Paterno and they found it. Congrats. I don't think anyone could have said it any better. Like I keep saying. Morally, yes. Legal, no. Really? If he told someone not to go to the cops, you are okay with that? Covering up statutory rape deserves a prison sentence, not sympathy.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Nov 9, 2011 23:29:16 GMT -5
these students rioting are stupid
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Post by BOOM! #WDE on Nov 9, 2011 23:31:29 GMT -5
They're not rioting...
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:32:07 GMT -5
Did I say that? No. Not at all, Ralpho.
I'm saying that LEGALLY PATERNO DID NOTHING ILLEGAL, but people are forgetting that. Morally, yeah...it's scummish. But I'm arguing from the legal standpoint also, which no one wants to at all. There's more than one side to the story. There's a moral side and a legal side. From the moral standpoint, yeah he was very much in the wrong. But legally, he didn't do anything illegal, no matter how hard anyone tries to find anything.
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Post by SMTTT! on Nov 9, 2011 23:35:19 GMT -5
He told them not to report illegal actions to authorities, so, technically, it was illegal.
It's just like aiding and abiding to a criminal, and that's basically what Joe did. Sick sh*t to be honest. . .
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