Jamal
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Post by Jamal on Nov 9, 2011 23:36:46 GMT -5
Did I say that? No. Not at all, Ralpho. I'm saying that LEGALLY PATERNO DID NOTHING ILLEGAL, but people are forgetting that. Morally, yeah...it's scummish. But I'm arguing from the legal standpoint also, which no one wants to at all. There's more than one side to the story. There's a moral side and a legal side. From the moral standpoint, yeah he was very much in the wrong. But legally, he didn't do anything illegal, no matter how hard anyone tries to find anything. Well nobody is saying he needs to go to jail, so I'm not exactly getting what you're trying to say.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:39:26 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is that some people, not just on here...the media, twitter people...everywhere, everyone is pegging Paterno as seemingly more guilty than Sandusky himself. That's what's pissing me off so much.
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Post by SMTTT! on Nov 9, 2011 23:40:28 GMT -5
He's not more guilty than Sandusky, but he is guilty for trying to keep his actions from the authorities.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 9, 2011 23:43:55 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is that some people, not just on here...the media, twitter people...everywhere, everyone is pegging Paterno as seemingly more guilty than Sandusky himself. That's what's pissing me off so much. I agree. Speculation made the decision here. Joe needed to speak up. Hopefully he'll have a chance to clear the air. Him saying he shoulda done more doesnt mean he didnt do enough. a sad day
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:45:07 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is that some people, not just on here...the media, twitter people...everywhere, everyone is pegging Paterno as seemingly more guilty than Sandusky himself. That's what's pissing me off so much. I agree. Speculation made the decision here. Joe needed to speak up. Hopefully he'll have a chance to clear the air. Him saying he shoulda done more doesnt mean he didnt do enough. a sad day Exactly.
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Post by the franchise on Nov 9, 2011 23:50:21 GMT -5
One morning news show here was saying that what Paterno did was similar to what O.J. Simpson did. In what world does that even make sense.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 9, 2011 23:56:01 GMT -5
One morning news show here was saying that what Paterno did was similar to what O.J. Simpson did. In what world does that even make sense. In a world where the media is more concerned about making a buck then reporting the news.
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@3CountRadio
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Post by @3CountRadio on Nov 9, 2011 23:56:12 GMT -5
Jim Tressel was forced out at OSU because he knew his players traded memorabilia for tattoos.
This is considerably worse. Paterno deserved to be canned.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 9, 2011 23:58:16 GMT -5
One morning news show here was saying that what Paterno did was similar to what O.J. Simpson did. In what world does that even make sense. Now you see why I'm so pissed off. It's f*cking ridiculous...but apparently I'm in the wrong in this situation for having this viewpoint because while myself and some others are admitting that morally he was totally in the wrong, because we refuse to say he's guilty of a crime because he didn't go to the police. It's a moral crime, but not a legal one...but if you try telling that to anyone in the media or social media...well...when they're comparing Paterno to O.J...there's no arguing with them because to the media and social media, Paterno's seemingly more guilty than Sandusky.
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Jamal
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Post by Jamal on Nov 10, 2011 0:09:27 GMT -5
I find it hilarious when he says pray for those kids. Yeah, you sure seemed extremely worried about them....
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Nov 10, 2011 0:14:10 GMT -5
now can we call it a riot? they overturned a news van, light poles are being torn down, police using mace...
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Post by BOOM! #WDE on Nov 10, 2011 0:15:22 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 10, 2011 0:16:20 GMT -5
Yeah. Overturned cars, light poles...the police are out in their riot gear...it's ridiculous.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 10, 2011 0:23:37 GMT -5
Did I say that? No. Not at all, Ralpho. I'm saying that LEGALLY PATERNO DID NOTHING ILLEGAL, but people are forgetting that. Morally, yeah...it's scummish. But I'm arguing from the legal standpoint also, which no one wants to at all. There's more than one side to the story. There's a moral side and a legal side. From the moral standpoint, yeah he was very much in the wrong. But legally, he didn't do anything illegal, no matter how hard anyone tries to find anything. Wow, you really are standing up for Paterno, he did break the law. And I am sure charges will follow, if they go anywhere, thats another story. Withholding information to a felony is illegal, telling someone to do nothing in a felony is illegal. You really seem like you are defending Paterno and its sickening. Hes guilty, he got whats coming and he deserves more. HE DIDNT CALL THE COPS! HE SAID NOT TO! I just dont understand you on this
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Nov 10, 2011 0:31:08 GMT -5
I think they made him the scapegoat. They said the grad assistant told him "there was horsing around and fondling". He never told Paterno about rape or sodomy. He reported that up. That's why no charges were pressed on him. It went with what mcquery said. Joe is mad he didn't ask McQuery more questions.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 10, 2011 0:37:01 GMT -5
There are no scapegoats when everyone is at fault and they clean house
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Post by deskjet on Nov 10, 2011 0:50:23 GMT -5
One morning news show here was saying that what Paterno did was similar to what O.J. Simpson did. In what world does that even make sense. Now you see why I'm so pissed off. It's f*cking ridiculous...but apparently I'm in the wrong in this situation for having this viewpoint because while myself and some others are admitting that morally he was totally in the wrong, because we refuse to say he's guilty of a crime because he didn't go to the police. It's a moral crime, but not a legal one...but if you try telling that to anyone in the media or social media...well...when they're comparing Paterno to O.J...there's no arguing with them because to the media and social media, Paterno's seemingly more guilty than Sandusky. This is the result of people that can't think for themselves, or "sheep" as some may put it. Sadly it's what this nation has become. It's the "react first think later, if at all" mentality.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 10, 2011 0:53:37 GMT -5
Did I say that? No. Not at all, Ralpho. I'm saying that LEGALLY PATERNO DID NOTHING ILLEGAL, but people are forgetting that. Morally, yeah...it's scummish. But I'm arguing from the legal standpoint also, which no one wants to at all. There's more than one side to the story. There's a moral side and a legal side. From the moral standpoint, yeah he was very much in the wrong. But legally, he didn't do anything illegal, no matter how hard anyone tries to find anything. Wow, you really are standing up for Paterno, he did break the law. And I am sure charges will follow, if they go anywhere, thats another story. Withholding information to a felony is illegal, telling someone to do nothing in a felony is illegal. You really seem like you are defending Paterno and its sickening. Hes guilty, he got whats coming and he deserves more. HE DIDNT CALL THE COPS! HE SAID NOT TO! I just dont understand you on this Where did you see Joe said not to call the cops? And since when is telling your superiors considered witholding information? Last I checked Curley and sChultz were the ones brought up on perjury charges which is witholding information.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Nov 10, 2011 0:58:42 GMT -5
There are no scapegoats when everyone is at fault and they clean house I agree to an extent. I would just like to know what Paterno is at fault of. If he would of been told of rape or other sexual activities that is one thing. But McQuery didn't really tell him much. So Paterno turned it over to the proper proletariat. You Can't call the police and say "I was there was horseplay in the men's shower." McQuery should of told Joe more. Like exactly what he saw. By his and Paternos own statements he really didn't tell Joe alot. I believe they should of let Paterno finish up this season. 61 years of employment, I believe he deserved more. Like his statue says "coach, educator, humanitarian."
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Post by deskjet on Nov 10, 2011 1:07:03 GMT -5
There are no scapegoats when everyone is at fault and they clean house I agree to an extent. I would just like to know what Paterno is at fault of. If he would of been told of rape or other sexual activities that is one thing. But McQuery didn't really tell him much. So Paterno turned it over to the proper proletariat. You Can't call the police and say "I was there was horseplay in the men's shower." McQuery should of told Joe more. Like exactly what he saw. By his and Paternos own statements he really didn't tell Joe alot. I believe they should of let Paterno finish up this season. 61 years of employment, I believe he deserved more. Like his statue says "coach, educator, humanitarian." without seeing the Gran Jury report in whole, apparently Joe was given some detail, however ut still does not mean he dint do enough. For all we know, he coulda been told it was taken care of. As much influence that Joe has...he is still an 84 year old man, 77 at the time of the allegations. He is no more than a figurehead, protected by the university. His focus has been always on the well being of the team and the school. He's a coach, not an administrator and should not be indicted for not performing administrative duties.
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